This sport is a joke! No credibility whatsoever: Champion GGG to enter ring first VS Challenger Canelo. #BoycottBoxing

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This sport is a joke! No credibility whatsoever: Champion GGG to enter ring first VS Challenger Canelo. #BoycottBoxing

Post by Andrew Kearney »

You know, whether its the hundreds of hometown robberies that happen every single day in this sport, or the recent Ward lowblow KO of Kovalev (photo evidence clearly showing he was punched in the balls but NSAC officials calling it a legal blow, are they fcuking blind? No, just corrupt to the core), or the recent Rigondeaux KOing his opponent Flores after the bell and the KO result standing (when just weeks prior Jose Uzcategui was DQ'd for the *exact* same thing), or fighters testing positive for PED's and resulting in DQ's (meanwhile in another similar situation the fight is only a no contest) boxing is a sport with rampant corruption, no consistency, and no credibility whatsoever.

The idea of a sport is that it is a fair competition where athletes are competing against each other and the result is objectively based on merit. In this regard, boxing is no longer a sport, but seems to have become something that more closely resembles the WWE or a sports enterainment
. Results are no longer based on merit, and fixed decisions and robberies have become the norm where race, nationality, popularity or the promoter backing is what determines the result. Officiating is deplorably corrupt and nobody even cares to do anything about it.

The latest news off the chopper is that for the upcoming GGG VS Canelo fight, GGG who is an ***UNDISPUTED CHAMPION*** with a very long reign, will actually enter the ring first, and Canelo who doesn't hold a single belt will be treated as though he is the champion with the right to enter the ring last and have himself introduced as though he were the champion. In doing so, this defies hundreds of years of tradition and signals another ridiculous black eye for this sport. This is ridiculous, abso-fcuking-lutely appalling and shows every single thing that is wrong with this sport. The background for this fight - Canelo delaying until GGG finally looked old and vulnerable also typifies what is wrong with this sport.

Canelo entering the ring first shows that this sport is no longer based on merit, and seems to have no consistency whatsoever in the manner in which it is officiated. It also highlights corruption in the sport as Canelo's promotional backing and drawing power has given him unfair advantages. :roll:

I haven't watched a single fight in over a year, and there is no way I'm watching GGG-Canelo after this. What a farce. Boxing in the US is a dead sport (Ward, supposed P4P #1 can't even draw more than 2,000 fans to his fight). Wlad-Joshua was a big fight but that was in the UK, and the truth is in North America boxing is dead, in Europe it is dying. Its become an entertainment with no credibility whatsoever.

As such, boxing can no longer be considered a sport. Boxing must be more appropriately considered as an entertainment, not much different than WWE or going to a music concert.
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Post by Boxerbeetle »

Don't care. And I'm amazed anyone cares these days. If I was a boxer, I wouldn't care when I came to the ring / which corner I was in / if I was announced first. A real man doesn't care about such things.

No surprise to hear that Golovkin will let the diva Canelo do whatever he wants; Golovkin knows the only thing that matters is what happens in the ring.
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Hey GGG; You only made about a million for a couple of your fights. How about we give you a ten million dollar bonus to play soft with Canelo? Because the fight is going to earn us hundreds of millions and then in the next ten years we are going to earn hundreds of more millions.

GGG: Ok I'm 35 and this is my last shot to cash out. I'm tired of those 750k paydays vs scrubs. I will take $10m to throw the fight.

Deal.

Oscar: "This is a REAL fight"
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Don't care. And I'm amazed anyone cares these days. If I was a boxer, I wouldn't care when I came to the ring / which corner I was in / if I was announced first. A real man doesn't care about such things.

No surprise to hear that Golovkin will let the diva Canelo do whatever he wants; Golovkin knows the only thing that matters is what happens in the ring.
Same for me.
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Post by bigjack »

Make your mind up,you said you watched Ward v Kovalev 1 and 2 in another thread where you also warned of foreign fighters such as GGG and Canelo likely being on the wrong end of bad decisions,so when those two fight who's going to get stitched up then ?
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Post by Ruthless-RKO »

montrealsuper wrote:Hey GGG; You only made about a million for a couple of your fights. How about we give you a ten million dollar bonus to play soft with Canelo? Because the fight is going to earn us hundreds of millions and then in the next ten years we are going to earn hundreds of more millions.

GGG: Ok I'm 35 and this is my last shot to cash out. I'm tired of those 750k paydays vs scrubs. I will take $10m to throw the fight.

Deal.

Oscar: "This is a REAL fight"
GGG has earned over a mil consistently for his past 4 or 5 fights.
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montrealsuper wrote:Hey GGG; You only made about a million for a couple of your fights. How about we give you a ten million dollar bonus to play soft with Canelo? Because the fight is going to earn us hundreds of millions and then in the next ten years we are going to earn hundreds of more millions.

GGG: Ok I'm 35 and this is my last shot to cash out. I'm tired of those 750k paydays vs scrubs. I will take $10m to throw the fight.

Deal.

Oscar: "This is a REAL fight"
You know, I really don't want to believe this but there are signs that this fight and result have all been choreographed by Oscar and co.

All of a sudden GGG sounds very uncertain about the future, and starts making concessions amidst rematch talk.

As Dylan once said, 'Money doesn't talk, it swears'.

Obviously the higher up you go in boxing you face increasingly tougher opposition both in and especially out of the ring. Guess its always been like this when the prize money gets this high. 25 years ago Don King was getting away with high larceny.

These guys know the world is watching or it'd be worse. Its all down to GGG to save the reputation of boxing. Canelo's a game kid but he's letting himself be used as a puppet as many before him.
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Post by gilgamesh »

Thomastearns wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Hey GGG; You only made about a million for a couple of your fights. How about we give you a ten million dollar bonus to play soft with Canelo? Because the fight is going to earn us hundreds of millions and then in the next ten years we are going to earn hundreds of more millions.

GGG: Ok I'm 35 and this is my last shot to cash out. I'm tired of those 750k paydays vs scrubs. I will take $10m to throw the fight.

Deal.

Oscar: "This is a REAL fight"
You know, I really don't want to believe this but there are signs that this fight and result have all been choreographed by Oscar and co.

All of a sudden GGG sounds very uncertain about the future, and starts making concessions amidst rematch talk.

As Dylan once said, 'Money doesn't talk, it swears'.

Obviously the higher up you go in boxing you face increasingly tougher opposition both in and especially out of the ring. Guess its always been like this when the prize money gets this high. 25 years ago Don King was getting away with high larceny.

These guys know the world is watching or it'd be worse. Its all down to GGG to save the reputation of boxing. Canelo's a game kid but he's letting himself be used as a puppet as many before him.
Since MontrealSuper seems to be implying this fight is gonna be "fixed" or something, let me just inform you guys, it's very extremely rare that a high profile fight like this is fixed in this day and age. Most of the time when you see illegitimate results it's gonna be in a fight where it almost doesn't even matter and they feel like they can get away with it.

James Toney's recent retirement fight for instance. Obviously fixed, but nobody cares because it doesn't really matter. It just went right by without anybody giving a sh*t.

Fights at this level aren't fixed because they can't get away with it. I don't doubt that there might be the occasional bought off judge in the case of this bout here considering Canelo has a rematch clause I doubt they'd attempt any sort of shenanigans.
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Only divas care about entrance order. The only thing which matters is whose hand is raised.
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Very good post. Yes, way too much nonsense happening in boxing. Criminal.
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Post by Ossyrules »

It's not a deal breaker, but the champ should come in second. This is boxing
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Post by BitPlayer »

Well Canelo is the Ring champ, so really it's a unification fight.
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Post by crusader »

What an outrageous injustice.

GGG should call the fight off this instance.
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Post by Butterbean »

montrealsuper wrote:Hey GGG; You only made about a million for a couple of your fights. How about we give you a ten million dollar bonus to play soft with Canelo? Because the fight is going to earn us hundreds of millions and then in the next ten years we are going to earn hundreds of more millions.

GGG: Ok I'm 35 and this is my last shot to cash out. I'm tired of those 750k paydays vs scrubs. I will take $10m to throw the fight.

Deal.

Oscar: "This is a REAL fight"

i really hope u are wrong. but i think u might be right...
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Post by RScarf1 »

I agree that boxing is becoming more like WWE, but at least in WWE, everyone knows that the results are predetermined. Boxing is still trying to make people believe that it is a sport in spite of the rampant corruption. I used to think that corrupt judging doesn't happen as often in major fights, but we have seen it happen. I am not as concerned about the order of the ring walk as I am about the officiating. I think Golovkin can overcome it though because Canelo is not really pound for pound top ten.
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How do you know a lot of high profile fights are not fixed? How do you know Holy vs Lennox Ali vs Liston I and II Foreman vs Moorer Floyd vs Pac SRL vs Duran II Oscar vs Hopkins were not fixed? Like you a fan would know?
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GGG suddenly does sound uncertain and he's even downplaying his own chances as I read in one interview this week . The reporter asked I Know you are going to win so how are you going to win vs Canelo? And GGG says nothing except "This is boxing" WTF?
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The $$$ is with Canelo - GGG is at the end of his career - this could be a cash out fight? The motive and the $$$ are available to buy off GGG. And GGG"s words and actions lately are very suspicious. WTF is he talking about retiring before the biggest fight of his life? Take the $$$ and run?
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Butterbean wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Hey GGG; You only made about a million for a couple of your fights. How about we give you a ten million dollar bonus to play soft with Canelo? Because the fight is going to earn us hundreds of millions and then in the next ten years we are going to earn hundreds of more millions.

GGG: Ok I'm 35 and this is my last shot to cash out. I'm tired of those 750k paydays vs scrubs. I will take $10m to throw the fight.

Deal.

Oscar: "This is a REAL fight"

i really hope u are wrong. but i think u might be right...
No f*cking way GGG throws the fight for any money. He is well off and doesn't need to disgrace himself.
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Hope you are right but talking about retiring suddenly is very strange and suspect. And it will give the powers that be extra incentive to favor Canelo because if Canelo loses and GGG retires guess who loses a ton of $$$? It's far more lucrative to fix the fight let G retire and keep the $$$ train going with Canelo.
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montrealsuper wrote:Hope you are right but talking about retiring suddenly is very strange and suspect. And it will give the powers that be extra incentive to favor Canelo because if Canelo loses and GGG retires guess who loses a ton of $$$? It's far more lucrative to fix the fight let G retire and keep the $$$ train going with Canelo.
If I was a boxer, I would never reveal thoughts about retirement. You don't want to give the judges more of a reason to go against you. I think Golovkin cares about his legacy and I think he will do his best to win. He wants Billy Joe Saunders' belt, so he wants to be undisputed champion.
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Post by Lackeos »

This thread is the absolute stupidest sh*t.
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RScarf1 wrote:
montrealsuper wrote:Hope you are right but talking about retiring suddenly is very strange and suspect. And it will give the powers that be extra incentive to favor Canelo because if Canelo loses and GGG retires guess who loses a ton of $$$? It's far more lucrative to fix the fight let G retire and keep the $$$ train going with Canelo.
If I was a boxer, I would never reveal thoughts about retirement. You don't want to give the judges more of a reason to go against you. I think Golovkin cares about his legacy and I think he will do his best to win. He wants Billy Joe Saunders' belt, so he wants to be undisputed champion.
I think GGG would rather pocket $5 or $10m bonus for playing soft on Canelo than to win Saunders belt. It's about $$$. The more I think about it the more hints and clues and dots there are that all lead to this fight being a giant fix for the future mexican cash cow. I strongly suspect Oscar made Golovkin an offer he just could not refu$e. And the gambling syndicates are all in on it as it's why they have pegged Canelo as the favorite which is a joke because Golovkin should really be the heavy favorite.
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Post by montrealsuper »

Golota talked about retiring before the Byrd fight - he said if he wins the belt he would retire - well guess what? That wouldve been terrible for Don King who would have lost control of the belt which is worth millions. So King probably rigged it for Byrd to get the decision - Byrd's wife was even caught on camera in the ring after saying she didn't think her husband won the fight. Golota got robbed because he was going to win the belt and retire - Golovkin saying he's going to retire or may retire is a BIG BIG BIG mistake.
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