Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

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What you think of this list?

Great list
0
No votes
Good list, but some fighters are out-of-place
8
30%
Average list. Could do better myself.
6
22%
Bad list. Too many inaccuracies.
7
26%
Terrible. Just terrible.
6
22%
 
Total votes: 27
Crease
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby Crease » 23 Jun 2011, 20:30

Ambling Alp wrote:Several of the "alphabet soup". champs of the 1980s (Thomas, Dokes, Witherspoon, Page, Tubbs etc are very close) You could almost put their names in a hat and draw them out. Really you could have these guys ranked between #40 and #60. They all had their ups and downs.

I agree with that.
Though I enjoed watching Greg Page.
yancey
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby yancey » 23 Jun 2011, 20:38

Crease wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:V. Klitschko (he at least showed he could compete with a great fighter, unlike his brother who has beaten a bunch of scrubs and lost by stoppage to 3 average heavyweights)

I'm not a Klitchsko fan,. but I don't think that you are giving Wlad enough credit, for the past half-decade he has been the best around and beaten practically all the top contenders...
He's had a period ofdominance that few Heavyweight Champions have had, gave him credit for it.
:TU:



On top of that, he's effing terrible.
chucktaylor
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby chucktaylor » 25 Jun 2011, 01:09

I like Cleveland Williams, but how the hell is he 31 and Lennox Lewis was 32?!
Lewis had done way more than Williams ever did by this point in his career.
pound per pound
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby pound per pound » 25 Jun 2011, 06:58

Crease wrote:From the 1999 Holiday edition:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Evander Holyfield - way too high
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Sonny Liston
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Johnson too high, title run was very weak.
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Ezzard Charles Too high.
12. James J. Jeffries
13. Jersey Joe Walcott Too high.The author must be a Louis and Maricano fan
14. Mike Tyson
15. Gene Tunney
16. Harry Wills
17. Sam Langford
18. John L. Sullivan
19. Max Schmeling
20. Max Baer
21. Floyd Patterson
22. Ken Norton
23. Riddick Bowe
24. Bob Fitzsimmons
25. Joe Jeannette
26. Jimmy Bivins too high
27. Jerry Quarry
28. Jack Sharkey too high
29. Archie Moore
30. Sam McVey
31. Cleveland Williams
32. Lennox Lewis Way too low. Lewis should be top 10
33. Earnie Shavers
34. Jim Corbett
35. Ernie Terrell
36. Michael Spinks
37. Jimmy Young
38. Zora Folley Should not make top 50
39. Ingemar Johansson
40. Ron Lyle
41. Tim Witherspoon
42. Jimmy Ellis
43. Mike Weaver
44. Michael Moorer
45. James J. Braddock
46. Tommy Farr
47. Tommy Burns
48. Tommy Gibbons
49. Pinklon Thomas
50. Michael Dokes

How do you rate this list form boxing's number one text.
Who is too high?
Who is too low?



I think this list came out in the late 1990's to early 2000's. Some bad picks here.
Rocky Balboa
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby Rocky Balboa » 27 Jun 2011, 08:30

If the title didn't tell us who compiled the list, I'd have said it was compiled by Bert Randolph Sugar.

Ezzard Charles was a great fighter, but how the hell can he rank above Mike Tyson? That is just plain daft!
SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby SaadOffTheDeck » 27 Jun 2011, 08:44

Rocky Balboa wrote:If the title didn't tell us who compiled the list, I'd have said it was compiled by Bert Randolph Sugar.

Ezzard Charles was a great fighter, but how the hell can he rank above Mike Tyson? That is just plain daft!



It isn't that bad. He beat Walcott twice officially, Layne & Maxim several times, Elmer Ray & the Joe Louis he beat was better than the Holmes that fought Tyson. Even his fights with Marciano aren't black eyes on his ledger. Do I think Tyson would beat him? Yes Does that mean he has to rate higher? No

I think they both belong in the 10-18 range, so I wouldn't call that botched.
The 1bangkid
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Re: Ring Magazine: Top 50 Heavyweights of all time:

Postby The 1bangkid » 01 Jul 2011, 23:52

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Evander Holyfield - way too high
4. George Foreman overrated
5. Larry Holmes
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Sonny Liston to high
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Johnson too high,
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Ezzard Charles Too high.
12. James J. Jeffries
13. Jersey Joe Walcott Too high.
14. Mike Tyson to low he sud be in the 10 top
15. Gene Tunney
16. Harry Wills
17. Sam Langford to low
18. John L. Sullivan
19. Max Schmeling
20. Max Baer to high
21. Floyd Patterson
22. Ken Norton to high
23. Riddick Bowe
24. Bob Fitzsimmons
25. Joe Jeannette
26. Jimmy Bivins to high
27. Jerry Quarry to high
28. Jack Sharkey to high
29. Archie Moore
30. Sam McVey
31. Cleveland Williams
32. Lennox Lewis
33. Earnie Shavers
34. Jim Corbett
35. Ernie Terrell
36. Michael Spinks to low
37. Jimmy Young
38. Zora Folley
39. Ingemar Johansson
40. Ron Lyle
41. Tim Witherspoon
42. Jimmy Ellis
43. Mike Weaver
44. Michael Moorer
45. James J. Braddock
46. Tommy Farr
47. Tommy Burns
48. Tommy Gibbons
49. Pinklon Thomas sud not be on the list
50. Michael Dokes

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