Joe Frazier vs. Ken Norton (what if)?

Mr Pickalini · Post by **Mr Pickalini** » 24 Mar 2003, 12:00

Frazier - Norton = Foreman - Norton

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 24 Mar 2003, 13:38

i concur.

norton could be intimidated. as big and strong as he is, i feel his glass jaw would shatter under smokin joes big punching, in quick time. kennys crab defence wasnt nearly as effective as archie moores, tim witherspoon or george foreman 'version 2'.

Tomato-Can · Post by **Tomato-Can** » 24 Mar 2003, 16:49

undisputedly_pat wrote:What if?
This is the one potential great matchup of the great heavyweights of the 70s that never happened. Would Frazier's aggression have been too much for Norton's crab defense? Would Norton outpoint Frazier?
What do you think?

Anyone have any idea how come it never happened anyway?

I remember reading that they were good friends. Perhaps that is why they never fought.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 25 Mar 2003, 00:36

Yes, they were friends...Frazier was in the front row in at least one of the Ali-Norton fights cheering him on. Of course, friends do sometimes end ujp fighting each other, but the gate attraction at the time weren't as good as some others, so they didn't have to.

Norton could not fight backing up. Frazier would back him up. then, he would knock him down. And out.

Roco · Post by **Roco** » 13 Jan 2012, 08:48

I see Frazier stopping Norton.

Crease · Post by **Crease** » 13 Jan 2012, 11:59

Smokin' Joe stops Norton...

Techno89 · Post by **Techno89** » 13 Jan 2012, 12:10

Smokin Joe stops Norton with that big left.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 13 Jan 2012, 12:21

undisputedly_pat wrote:What if?
This is the one potential great matchup of the great heavyweights of the 70s that never happened. Would Frazier's aggression have been too much for Norton's crab defense? Would Norton outpoint Frazier?
What do you think?

Anyone have any idea how come it never happened anyway?

There was a lot more than one potentially great 70's match which never happened.

Jaywheel · Post by **Jaywheel** » 13 Jan 2012, 15:21

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
undisputedly_pat wrote:What if?
This is the one potential great matchup of the great heavyweights of the 70s that never happened. Would Frazier's aggression have been too much for Norton's crab defense? Would Norton outpoint Frazier?
What do you think?

Anyone have any idea how come it never happened anyway?
There was a lot more than one potentially great 70's match which never happened.

They didn't know that in 2003.

gilgamesh · Post by **gilgamesh** » 13 Jan 2012, 15:38

I think Frazier takes out Ken sometime between the 4th and 6th round

yancey · Post by **yancey** » 13 Jan 2012, 21:18

gilgamesh wrote:I think Frazier takes out Ken sometime between the 4th and 6th round

That is probably right, but I could see Kenny possibly getting a little further.

Goodnight, Irene · Post by **Goodnight, Irene** » 13 Jan 2012, 23:42

Jaywheel wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
undisputedly_pat wrote:What if?
This is the one potential great matchup of the great heavyweights of the 70s that never happened. Would Frazier's aggression have been too much for Norton's crab defense? Would Norton outpoint Frazier?
What do you think?

Anyone have any idea how come it never happened anyway?
There was a lot more than one potentially great 70's match which never happened.
They didn't know that in 2003.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 14 Jan 2012, 02:38

...frazier said he'd never fight norton because of friendship....norton said he'd never fight frazier because his mother didn't give birth to any stupid children...

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 14 Jan 2012, 04:00

good one Jac

raylawpc · Post by **raylawpc** » 15 Jan 2012, 16:33

If you are talking about prime v. prime, the first four rounds would have been interesting and entertaining, then Joe would have begun beating Norton down. I don't think Norton could have handled Joe's body attack or pressure. I don't see Norton answering the bell for round 10.

flatnoseflynn · Post by **flatnoseflynn** » 15 Jan 2012, 17:00

Frazier by late stoppage!

AngryGoon38 · Post by **AngryGoon38** » 15 Jan 2012, 19:55

Tomato-Can wrote:
undisputedly_pat wrote:What if?
This is the one potential great matchup of the great heavyweights of the 70s that never happened. Would Frazier's aggression have been too much for Norton's crab defense? Would Norton outpoint Frazier?
What do you think?

Anyone have any idea how come it never happened anyway?

I remember reading that they were good friends. Perhaps that is why they never fought.

Friends,and Neighbors,according to Bert Sugar.

orbtastic · Post by **orbtastic** » 16 Jan 2012, 06:28

Both trained by the same trainer too.

Did they ever spar?

Chuck1052 · Post by **Chuck1052** » 17 Jan 2012, 21:37

It was reported that Joe Frazier and Ken Norton were friends. In regards to a bout between the two during their peak years, it would have been a terrible matchup for Norton, who was destroyed in short order when facing the big punchers in the heavyweight division. As a result, Norton didn't belong in the ring with the likes of Frazier, George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Roy Lyle or Gerry Cooney.

- Chuck Johnston

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