prizefighter journeymen

[danboxer1]

as they've nearly done all the weights on prizefighter this would be an interesting format.usually journeymen spoil/fiddle their way through a fight doing their best not to get stopped which frequently results in an ugly sometimes boring affair.now if its fireworks they're after then try dangling a £25,000 carrot in front of 8 journeymen and see how much they spoil/fiddle then.it would be the best prizefighter yet in terms of entertainment.people are always saying how much respect journeymen deserve so this would be a great way of showing some appreciation

[Dioufy]

Absolutely diabolical if this happens.

[Nightmare Roy]

Not sure it would sell, but if they could earn more money than they usually do good luck to them

[stujones]

Have all the Prizefighters been for 25,000... some of them I haven't seen the cheque, and the lightweight one never made a big deal of the money... infact I thought I heard Dave Clark say five thousand.

[teddy007]

Have all the Prizefighters been for 25,000... some of them I haven't seen the cheque, and the lightweight one never made a big deal of the money... infact I thought I heard Dave Clark say five thousand.

Seroiusly?

[Counter-puncher]

Absolutely diabolical if this happens.

with respect, nonsense. you could get 8 decent journeymen together- the likes of Matt Scriven, Darren Gethin, Lee Noble etc together, and they would give you a load of belting fights. EDIT: and of course i forgot to add quality operator, class act and ladies' man Dan Thorpe I bet i could put a card together of fighters you've never seen who would make for an exciting, if hardly high-quality in skill terms, mini-tourney.

[Dioufy]

I wouldn't watch it.

[SOUTHPAW]

I would make comeback for it. I think its a great idea but i think to make it work the fighters would have to sell lots me tickets because i dont think the tv would be interested

[Finch]

I say go the other way, chuck all the heavy's into a prizefighter and see who's the last man standing....

Williams
Skelton
Rogan
Sexton
Gobshite Fury
Price
Fraudley (ok maybe not)
Chisora

No excuses, no more talk, rematches, no more avoiding each other (or so Fury thinks) blah blah blah....... the final could then be on another date over 12 rounds.

[Counter-puncher]

I would make comeback for it. I think its a great idea but i think to make it work the fighters would have to sell lots me tickets because i dont think the tv would be interested

i'd pay to watch it

[Coco]

I say go the other way, chuck all the heavy's into a prizefighter and see who's the last man standing....

Williams
Skelton
Rogan
Sexton
Gobshite Fury
Price
Fraudley (ok maybe not)
Chisora

No excuses, no more talk, rematches, no more avoiding each other (or so Fury thinks) blah blah blah....... the final could then be on another date over 12 rounds.

I would much prefer to see a tournament over the course of 3 months where they all fight 10 rounders against each other

[danboxer1]

[quote="Counter-puncher"][quote="Dioufy"]Absolutely diabolical if this happens.[/quote]

with respect, nonsense. you could get 8 decent journeymen together- the likes of Matt Scriven, Darren Gethin, Lee Noble etc together, and they would give you a load of belting fights. EDIT: and of course i forgot to add quality operator, class act and ladies' man Dan Thorpe I bet i could put a card together of fighters you've never seen who would make for an exciting, if hardly high-quality in skill terms, mini-tourney.[/quote]
haha top man

[danboxer1]

alls i'm gettin at is.the no1 priorty to a journeyman is the dough.there'd be no record or reputation to keep in tact and none of us are fazed about who we fight or what the win will do for us.so there'd be no playin it safe or holdin back which in turn would result in a right ding dong.not many tickets would be sold i imagine nor would tv go for it.it were just a though nothin serious Dioufy ya bleedin mardy arse.

[Dioufy]

Hey, don't ask for opinions if you can't handle them, pal.

[jonp]

I wouldn't watch it.

Why wouldnt you watch it??

A couple of the best fights iv seen Alex Spitko vs Ali Wyatt and Billy Smith vs Lance Hall all with losing records and these fights were cracking better than 80 percent of the tv fights iv watched.Whats the problem if the fights are exciting and both going for it??

Do you refuse to watch any fights where the fighters have losing records or are percieved as journymen?

[steve689]

I say go the other way, chuck all the heavy's into a prizefighter and see who's the last man standing....

Williams
Skelton
Rogan
Sexton
Gobshite Fury
Price
Fraudley (ok maybe not)
Chisora

No excuses, no more talk, rematches, no more avoiding each other (or so Fury thinks) blah blah blah....... the final could then be on another date over 12 rounds.

I would much prefer to see a tournament over the course of 3 months where they all fight 10 rounders against each other

Me too. Why can't we see an elimination tournament where they all go a it over 10 rounds, for a duration of 6 months or so? I would prefer that format.

[Counter-puncher]

myself and Tom Podmore about a year ago put together a fantasy journeyman prizefighter type card. i think it was as follows:

1. Ernie Smith (Stourport)
2. Peter Dunn (Pontefract)
3. Leonard Lothian (Northampton)
4. Duncan Cottier (Chingford)
5. Paul Royston (Rotherham)
6. Steve Copper (Worcester)
7. David Kirk (Nottingham)
8. Darren Gethin (Walsall)

i think we had Lothian down to win in the end, you could add or subtract 3 or 4 names and still have a good tourney.

[Counter-puncher]

I say go the other way, chuck all the heavy's into a prizefighter and see who's the last man standing....

Williams
Skelton
Rogan
Sexton
Gobshite Fury
Price
Fraudley (ok maybe not)
Chisora

No excuses, no more talk, rematches, no more avoiding each other (or so Fury thinks) blah blah blah....... the final could then be on another date over 12 rounds.

I would much prefer to see a tournament over the course of 3 months where they all fight 10 rounders against each other

Me too. Why can't we see an elimination tournament where they all go a it over 10 rounds, for a duration of 6 months or so? I would prefer that format.

because something, promotional/TV/injury or whatever, would get in the way.

[rhino222]

if the motivation for a journeyman is the dough.....then some of them would be happy with 4k for 3 minutes work, so its hardly gonna make them more likely to have a tear up..

[Counter-puncher]

i don't think it is just the dough

its the fact that they aren't wanted or expected to really fight, or they aren't matched with fighters 'on their level', and if they were, they would probably fight harder?

like, I am sure Pete Buckley threw a hell of a lot more shots in his final fight than in any 7 or 8 before put together? why? cos for a change it was actually HIS show that night. i think the same would be true for a journeyman's prizefighter they'd fight without spoiling but not just cos money was on the line.

[rhino222]

i disagree, take this wekend for instance, baz carey was due to fight amir unsworth topping the bill on a carl greaves show, all was signed sealed and delivered, posters spread round etc, tickets sold.....then carey pulls out with a hand injury, then appears on warrens show tonight.....against a walsh brother, probably for a 3 grand purse instead of the 1-2 grand one he would have got on sat night.

and you are telling me its not about money !!

the BBB of C should ban fighters who agree to fights, then piss people around with petty excuses that causes their withdrawal from organised events, when people have gone to a lot of trouble.

no one minds honest injuries.....but blatant lies......no thanks.

[Counter-puncher]

no, not saying it ISN'T about the money, i'm just saying its not ALL bout the money mate

baz carey's a good example. against my man Rob Hunt he spoiled all night,probabl;y for not much dough.

then, Sky TV cameras present, he fought Steve Saville in a 6 rounder, they stood toe to toe and threw bombs. probably for more dough.

he then got a rematch to fight for the midlands title vs Saville, again, great great fight

if it was all about the money Carey could have spoiled, which he hardly did in either fight, OR he could have taken the easy way out after a heavy KD.

does that make more sense i don't think i coul;d have made myself very celar, suppose i am just saying give journeymen something to fight for, even if its proving themselves against one another as well as abit extra £££, it could work.

Iguess that was Dan's point?

[rhino222]

i know what you mean mate, but in any other sport, if you deliberately dont attempt to win.......its actually a fix !!!!!!

[Counter-puncher]

i disagree, take this wekend for instance, baz carey was due to fight amir unsworth topping the bill on a carl greaves show, all was signed sealed and delivered, posters spread round etc, tickets sold.....then carey pulls out with a hand injury, then appears on warrens show tonight.....against a walsh brother, probably for a 3 grand purse instead of the 1-2 grand one he would have got on sat night.

and you are telling me its not about money !!

the BBB of C should ban fighters who agree to fights, then piss people around with petty excuses that causes their withdrawal from organised events, when people have gone to a lot of trouble.

no one minds honest injuries.....but blatant lies......no thanks.

totally agree that is out of order, b tw

EDIT- take your last point too rhino, i bet Carl Greaves wasn't happy with what Carey pulled :(

[Counter-puncher]

how's Amir coming on? my mate kev parker says good things about him