52 fight challenge: Week 15 - Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna II

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 11 Apr 2016, 08:35

Ken Buchanan vs Ismael Laguna II.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGdi4RkQp0E

Watch and discuss.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 11 Apr 2016, 08:35

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 11 Apr 2016, 08:37

Supplementary fight.

Ken Buchanan vs Chang-Kil Lee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU5fEgPP6Cw

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 11 Apr 2016, 09:07

haven't seen this in a couple of years but I'll pass a quick heads-up on, i think it is right at the end of either round 6 or 7 Buchanan does some mesmerising defensive work when Laguna has him against the ropes. the kind of stuff you'll probably want to rewind and catch again just to be sure what you have just seen, leaves Laguna staring out into space over the top rope

excellent fight, well recommended

davie · Post by **davie** » 11 Apr 2016, 16:43

Buchanan vs Laguna
1. Buchanan - Some good work from either man. Nice upper body movement to make Laguna miss and shots from some nice angles
2. Laguna - Lands some really nice shots, a couple about a minute in land flush, not the best angle to see them but you see Kens head rocked back
3. Buchanan - Looked back in control early, then halfway it quickens and Laguna lands a few good solid shots. Ken starting to mark up. Good round
4. Laguna - both men had good spells, scrappy at times. Are they starting to tire? This could be a long night. Prefered Laguna.
5. Buchanan - Controls most of it with jab. Odd spurts of success for either man, but slower round
***We aren't getting full rounds here, seems to skip to ad break before the bell.***(
6. Buchanan - Excellent body work in the first minute, corner must have sent him out to slow Laguna down. Good work upstairs for remainder of round
7. Buchanan - Right hand leads and left hooks the order of the day, throws a 3 left hook combo at one point. Laguna looking better on the inside.
8. Buchanan - That mesmerising defensive work C-P mentions was at the end of this round. FMJ would have doffed his cap to this!
9. Laguna - Landed some good shots and doesn't stop throwing in clinches, think he must have watched Turpin in week 14.
10. Buchanan - Lands nice jab/left hook combo nicely on 3 occasions, some other nice combination punching and good job of making Laguna just miss
11. Laguna - Fantastic round, almost nothing missed the target for either man. Laguna with some lovely right hands and perpetual motion in clinches.
12. Buchanan - Lot of good counters particularly with the right hand. Both men fighting rounds to a near stand still now.
13. Laguna - Buchanan looking desperate at times, lunging in and loading up punches. Laguna sees them coming, not sure Buchanan can see the right hands coming back now though with that eye nearly closed.
14. Buchanan 10-8. Ref should have given Laguna a count, the ropes kept him up twice. Both very tired and Ken was to tired to finish his man.
15. Buchanan - Heavy shots early on from Ken with both men looking like they were fighting through mud in the second half of the round

Great fight!

davie · Post by **davie** » 11 Apr 2016, 18:59

davie wrote:Buchanan vs Laguna
1. Buchanan - Some good work from either man. Nice upper body movement to make Laguna miss and shots from some nice angles
2. Laguna - Lands some really nice shots, a couple about a minute in land flush, not the best angle to see them but you see Kens head rocked back
3. Buchanan - Looked back in control early, then halfway it quickens and Laguna lands a few good solid shots. Ken starting to mark up. Good round
4. Laguna - both men had good spells, scrappy at times. Are they starting to tire? This could be a long night. Prefered Laguna.
5. Buchanan - Controls most of it with jab. Odd spurts of success for either man, but slower round
***We aren't getting full rounds here, seems to skip to ad break before the bell.***(
6. Buchanan - Excellent body work in the first minute, corner must have sent him out to slow Laguna down. Good work upstairs for remainder of round
7. Buchanan - Right hand leads and left hooks the order of the day, throws a 3 left hook combo at one point. Laguna looking better on the inside.
8. Buchanan - That mesmerising defensive work C-P mentions was at the end of this round. FMJ would have doffed his cap to this!
9. Laguna - Landed some good shots and doesn't stop throwing in clinches, think he must have watched Turpin in week 14.
10. Buchanan - Lands nice jab/left hook combo nicely on 3 occasions, some other nice combination punching and good job of making Laguna just miss
11. Laguna - Fantastic round, almost nothing missed the target for either man. Laguna with some lovely right hands and perpetual motion in clinches.
12. Buchanan - Lot of good counters particularly with the right hand. Both men fighting rounds to a near stand still now.
13. Laguna - Buchanan looking desperate at times, lunging in and loading up punches. Laguna sees them coming, not sure Buchanan can see the right hands coming back now though with that eye nearly closed.
14. Buchanan 10-8. Ref should have given Laguna a count, the ropes kept him up twice. Both very tired and Ken was to tired to finish his man.
15. Buchanan - Heavy shots early on from Ken with both men looking like they were fighting through mud in the second half of the round

Great fight!

145 - 139 for Buchanan

Buchanan showed a bit of everything in there, boxing, fighting, counters and combinations. Lovely movement, particularly upper body/head movement, to make a very good boxer in Laguna miss.
As you can see if you read my RBR review (does anyone read this shite? geez, why do I bother?) ever round gave something different, Buchanan seemed to start several rounds trying something new out. one round he started mixing up the jab high and low, another he started the first minute throwing almost exclusively to the body, others he tried the right hand lead and left hooks, it was as if he were experimenting at times.

Laguna made it a good scrap to, landing some heavy shots, showing bravery when he looked out on his feet late on and really mixing it up inside well.

I enjoyed that.

This guy musty be the best Scottish fighter there's been. Certainly the finest I've watched by a stretch

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 12 Apr 2016, 05:06

davie wrote:
Buchanan showed a bit of everything in there, boxing, fighting, counters and combinations. Lovely movement, particularly upper body/head movement, to make a very good boxer in Laguna miss.
As you can see if you read my RBR review (does anyone read this shite? geez, why do I bother?) ever round gave something different, Buchanan seemed to start several rounds trying something new out. one round he started mixing up the jab high and low, another he started the first minute throwing almost exclusively to the body, others he tried the right hand lead and left hooks, it was as if he were experimenting at times.

Laguna made it a good scrap to, landing some heavy shots, showing bravery when he looked out on his feet late on and really mixing it up inside well.

I enjoyed that.

This guy musty be the best Scottish fighter there's been. Certainly the finest I've watched by a stretch

i think one of the reasons Buchanan had to show so much variety was that Laguna's typically-Panamanian, slippery movement from the waist, made it difficult to time his jab early (he had a lot more success later on with the jab but mostly when doubling/tripling it, or hooking off it in the 14th when he had Laguna in trouble... IIRC)

handsofstone · Post by **handsofstone** » 18 Apr 2016, 14:36

Good competitive fight that,despite my wide 147-139 score,couldve been closer there were mostly closely contested rounds until Buchanan pulled away at the end and nearly stopped Laguna in the 14th,Ken had an excellent jab and was always on his toes until the end,even more impressive win considering he fought with 1 eye since the 3rd,a lot of good infighting between 2 classy operators

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 18 Apr 2016, 17:39

I didn't score it myself but definitely agree with you guys that it was closer.in the ring than it was on the scorecards. Cracking fight and epic skill and stamina by buchanan.

Anyone agree with me that Buchanan and Winstone were pretty close in style and ability?

davie · Post by **davie** » 18 Apr 2016, 22:57

Counter-puncher wrote:I didn't score it myself but definitely agree with you guys that it was closer.in the ring than it was on the scorecards. Cracking fight and epic skill and stamina by buchanan.

Anyone agree with me that Buchanan and Winstone were pretty close in style and ability?

Similar look and movement to them when Ken was boxing neatly.
But Buchanan definitely had another gear and more of a plan B if you know what I mean.
He could mix it and get the better of a brawl as well as being a neat tidy boxer.

I've seen a few of Buchanans fights and he really did have a bit of everything and this fight, I felt, was a perfect example of that.

handsofstone · Post by **handsofstone** » 19 Apr 2016, 03:44

Its a pity the 1st fight isnt available

handsofstone · Post by **handsofstone** » 19 Apr 2016, 13:57

Good accuracy from Buchanan to Lee out of there in the supplementary fight

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 19 Apr 2016, 15:24

davie wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:I didn't score it myself but definitely agree with you guys that it was closer.in the ring than it was on the scorecards. Cracking fight and epic skill and stamina by buchanan.

Anyone agree with me that Buchanan and Winstone were pretty close in style and ability?
Similar look and movement to them when Ken was boxing neatly.
But Buchanan definitely had another gear and more of a plan B if you know what I mean.
He could mix it and get the better of a brawl as well as being a neat tidy boxer.

I've seen a few of Buchanans fights and he really did have a bit of everything and this fight, I felt, was a perfect example of that.

Agreed mate. Buchanan definitely hit harder than Winstone p4p, IMO, so he had more options open to him in terms of the plan b you're talking about

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 19 Apr 2016, 17:52

handsofstone wrote:Good accuracy from Buchanan to Lee out of there in the supplementary fight

I know nothing of lee or how good he was but regardless, that was impressive by Buchanan, pretty much a punch-perfect dissection. His jab really was a remarkable weapon, thrown with variety and precision and speed, real artistry; he's not even that much taller or not at all in any fight I've seen him in, but mostly you'd think he was two or three inches taller as he so dominates the jabbing battle.

Monte Fisto · Post by **Monte Fisto** » 20 Apr 2016, 16:36

Love this fight, demonstrates Buchanans ability beautifully. Great finesse on show. Have to echo the above poster, its such a shame the first fight isn't available as you can't help but feel its a key link to the second fight.
Laguna retired after this fight and was still quite young, anyone know the driving factor? had he just had enough? i guess whilst still young he had a bunch of fights (75).

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 21 Apr 2016, 15:46

Extremely tough fight.

The Buchanan who fought the Japanese guy (I never understood the big deal about being robbed) and Jim Watt (tough fight which I felt could've gone against Buchanan) was a shadow of this guy. He was alert and on it versus the excellent Laguna.

One of the best performances and results by a British fighter.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 05 May 2016, 11:57

Buchanan - Laguna

10 - 9
9 - 10
9 - 10
9 - 10
10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9
9 - 10
9 - 10
10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9

145-140 Buchanan

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