52 fight challenge: Week 35 - Michael Brodie vs Neil Swain

[Horse]

Michael Brodie vs Neil Swain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyZzB1H-n0I

Watch and discuss.

[Horse]

Recent weeks' fights:

Week 34 - Richie Woodhall vs Thulani Malinga: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=203235
Week 33 - Joe Bugner vs Joe Frazier: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=203046
Week 32 - Colin Jones vs Milton McCrory I: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202947
Week 31 - Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202714

Week 30 - Wayne McCullough vs Yasuei Yakushiji: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202593
Week 29 - Duke McKenzie vs Dave McAuley: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202398
Week 28 - Alan Rudkin vs Lionel Rose: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202256
Week 27 - Brian Curvis vs Emile Griffith: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=202047
Week 26 - Maurice Hope vs Rocky Mattioli II: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=201894

Week 25 - Dave Charnley vs Joe Brown III: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=201665
Week 24 - Dennis Andries vs Jeff Harding I: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=201527
Week 23 - Henry Cooper vs Muhammad Ali I: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=201361
Week 22 - Steve Robinson vs Paul Hodkinson: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=201121
Week 21 - Pat Cowdell vs Salvador Sanchez: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=200952


British & Irish boxing 52 fight history knowledge challenge thread: http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=197079

[Horse]

Supplementary fights.

Michael Brodie vs Wilson Docherty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKoogfxiwb8


Neil Swain vs Paul Ingle.

https://youtu.be/cizBVxQUitg?t=2h24m7s

[jameswilson]

A fight I'd have loved to see around 2005 was between two guys who beat Brodie. In Jin Chi vs Scott Harrison. I'v always felt Chi would have come out on top. What do others think?

[Counter-puncher]

A fight I'd have loved to see around 2005 was between two guys who beat Brodie. In Jin Chi vs Scott Harrison. I'v always felt Chi would have come out on top. What do others think?

Would have been a war, would be interesting as Chi was a big strong boy at the weight and I don't think Harrison could bully him like he did most of his opponents. Still Harrison was a better boxer FWIW and banged well to the body which was seemingly Chi's weak point

[handsofstone]

A fight I'd have loved to see around 2005 was between two guys who beat Brodie. In Jin Chi vs Scott Harrison. I'v always felt Chi would have come out on top. What do others think?

Yeah it was a fight that was mooted for a while and sadly never came off,Harrison and Guzman would have been fun too,i think Scott would have lost that too TBF

[Horse]

Brodie - Swain

1. 9 - 10
2. 10 - 10
3. 10 - 9
4. 8 - 10
5. 10 - 8
6. 10 - 9
7. 10 - 9
8. 9 - 10
9. 10 - 10
10. - - - KO

86-85 Brodie


Good action packed fight.

[Horse]

Brodie - Docherty

10 - 9
10 - 9
10 - 9
- - - KO

30-27 Brodie


Nice Brodie win.

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Ingle - Swain

10 - 9
8 - 10
9 - 10
- - - KO

27-29 Swain

Swain stopped by a low blow while ahead. Very dodgy.

[Stuarty]

A fight I'd have loved to see around 2005 was between two guys who beat Brodie. In Jin Chi vs Scott Harrison. I'v always felt Chi would have come out on top. What do others think?

Depends what Scott Harrison turns up. If he turned up well prepared and his head was right then he'd have been a handful for most at Feather. I'd have fancied a motivated Harrison to just shade Chi. Would have been an absolute cracker of a fight though. Pity it never happened.

As HoS mentioned Guzman would've been a good fight as well. He was also down to fight Arthur a couple of times and it never came off.

[Andrew]

Watched this fight last night

Awesome British title scrap don't get them like this anymore.

Both fighters having the moments but the finish was savage.

[Coco]

Great fight

[Autobarn]

I watched this recently on DVD, a few months ago. Went through all the exciting stuff around the featherweight class, from Steve Robinson and Paul Hodkinson holding titles, through the Naz era and then into Brodie's battles.

Brodie's first gut check. A proper battle, compelling fight.

Was this Boxing News' fight of the year in 1997?

[Autobarn]

A fight I'd have loved to see around 2005 was between two guys who beat Brodie. In Jin Chi vs Scott Harrison. I'v always felt Chi would have come out on top. What do others think?

Would have been a war, would be interesting as Chi was a big strong boy at the weight and I don't think Harrison could bully him like he did most of his opponents. Still Harrison was a better boxer FWIW and banged well to the body which was seemingly Chi's weak point

Would've been a gruelling fight between big featherweight sluggers. I think Chi had better concentration. He was bloody, single minded. Harrison seemed a troubled champion like his mind wasn't always on the job.

Chi arguably improved more. I know he had some real scares, especially in the fight with Sugama. But I admired his performance against Rudy Lopez. He showed he could fight on the back foot - when necessary - and did some strong countering in another good battle.

What a shame Chi retired on the back of his best performance due to poor money. payday against Harrison could've kept him in the game bit longer.

[handsofstone]

What a fight and what a punch from Brodie to end things,toe to toe bombs away from the start,im surprised it lasted as far as the 10th round,it was relentless and both guys just never stopped throwing punches,some roughhouse tactics from Brodie especially with his bodyshots straying low but Swain never wilted or complained,he just kept firing back,tough fight to score but i had Michael a fair bit in front,it kind of reminded me of Moore/Macklin,definitly up there with the best British title fights ive seen

[handsofstone]

Crunching left hook from Brodie to finish off Docherty,he's got that Hatton like aggression and body punching but he did get tagged from Wilson a few times so defence wasnt high on his list of priorities

[handsofstone]

Felt for Swain in the Ingle fight there,he was doing well,put Paul down and the fight was his to win until Ingle folded him with a low uppercut,the ref made a pudendum of it,he knew it was low and thats why he never gave Neil a count,yet Ingle wins via KO

Shocking decision

[markinmidd]

Mike has said many times this is hardest fight

[rpms]

Real shame that Dai Gardner isnt involved in Boxing anymore isnt it

[davie]

A fight I'd have loved to see around 2005 was between two guys who beat Brodie. In Jin Chi vs Scott Harrison. I'v always felt Chi would have come out on top. What do others think?

Yeah it was a fight that was mooted for a while and sadly never came off,Harrison and Guzman would have been fun too,i think Scott would have lost that too TBF

I watched Guzman a couple times around then and felt Scott dodged a bullet there. He was an animal.

Shame he lacked discipline or he'd have been a real force.
(it's not often you post about Scott Harrison and comment on someone else's lack of discipline)

[davie]

Brodie vs Swain

1. 9 - 10 - What an opening round. Nearly a 10-8 for Swain.
2. 10 - 9 - Another barnstormer, Brodie looked determined to right a wrong, Swain came back into it and had his own successes
3. 10 - 9 - Big Brodie round, Lots of good punches landed to head and body
4. 8 - 10 - Probably would have been a Brodie round aside for the knockdown
5. 10 - 8 - Brodie with the KD but could have been deducted a point as the low blow looked intentional
6. 10 - 10 - fast start from Swain and good finish from Brodie, with plenty exchanged in the middle
7. 10 - 9 - Brodies round. Plenty of action again, constant pressure, work to the body from Brodie the only difference.
8. 9 - 10 - Swain put everything into this one. Looked hurt by a couple body shots but kept coming. Interesting use of shifting in this round from Swain. Not sure if thats a technique he uses or if he was just throwing so hard he kept turning himself
9. 9 - 10 - Both look tired, but Swain looks to have just about punched himself out at the end of this one
10. Brodie wins by KO. I thought it might be a body shot that finished it, but 2 really good shots upstairs, Swain walked right on to those

85-85 At the time of the stoppage


I usually try to pick up on a theme of the fight, something stylistically that determined the outcome, a defensive weakness, a particular punch that had success.
But both men landed with just about everything you can think of. I even tried to focus on the southpaw vs orthodox style, but I don't think it played a significant factor, they just laid into each other from the opening bell.
The body work was good from Brodie and played a factor in the fight and Swain switched stance a bit and utilised a bit of shifting when he was swinging away. Not sure this was a tactical decision more than just a result of him swinging away, coming off balance and losing his shape

Brodie looked the better fighter but Swain gave as good as he got for large periods.