Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

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Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by Brutu » 04 Jan 2010, 07:15

Here he is conducting his 11- piece jazz band doing the "Tiger Rag".
(four different renditions of it!)
Recorded December.21.1929 at the Checker's club in Harlem in NYC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswBX3cBKAQ
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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by Brutu » 04 Jan 2010, 08:14

Here is another link to some rare film with Jack Johnson speaking 16 years later, in the ring in the ballroom of the Henry Hudson Hotel in NYC in 1945 for a Liberty War Bonds rally.
(speaking in his theatrical stage voice)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqod-seL8gw

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Post by HomicideHenry » 04 Jan 2010, 11:21

Funny part is, Jack Johnson kept calling out the top HW's up until Joe Louis fought Schmeling the first time. Can you even imagine, the 50+ year old Johnson in with the Louis who kayoed Carnera and Baer? He'd be ultimately destroyed in a matter of seconds.

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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by Brutu » 05 Jan 2010, 12:54

Check out this link to the link beneath the 1901 photograph of Jack Johnson with his arms crossed.
It is a link to a a rare s 10 inch phonograph record Jack Johnson recorded of some of his vaudeville stage act.
"A Running Down the title holder"
It was recorded in Montreal Canada in 1924(Ajax records)

http://www.jerryjazzmusician.com/linern ... hnson.html

the other skits on the record were
"Bull Fightin in Spain"
"Up in Bear Mountain"

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Post by harrygreb » 05 Jan 2010, 19:07

brilliant - thanks for that :TU:

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Post by Brutu » 06 Jan 2010, 09:59

As near as I can tell(from what Ive read)
Jack Johnson made 3 wax record recordings for commercial use over his career.

The first was made shortly after the Johnson/ Jeffries fight when the fight film was banned.
Johnson went to the Vitagraph studios in Flatbush NYC and a silient film was made of him taking about the fight,
then a few days later he went to the Columbia Recording studios and spoke into a tin funnel
to make 2 discs to match the soundtrack so it could be played along in sync with the film footage.
The 2 ,12 inch records were also to the public to hear(price $2.50 cents),it was released on August 1910 by the American Cinephone Co.
"Mr. Johnson Talks"{My Own Story of the Big Fight}
It came included with a letter from Johnson in facsimile certifying to the authenticity.
These recordings are extremely rare and I think only the first disc is known to survive.
(scroll down to track #27 at this link for a sample)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/recsradio/radi ... 7&disc=001

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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by granberry » 07 Jan 2010, 22:19

Brutu wrote:Here he is conducting his 11- piece jazz band doing the "Tiger Rag".
(four different renditions of it!)
Recorded December.21.1929 at the Checker's club in Harlem in NYC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswBX3cBKAQ
Halfwitted Ken Burns, the politically correct 'expert' on any subject under the sun,

made a total ass out of himself by having his crap documentary on Jack Johnson 'narrated' by a fake Johnson with a voice totally different from Johnson's real voice.

The voice used throughout pathetic Ken Burns' error-filled 'documentary' was a heavy Texas southern accent, close to George Foreman's voice.

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Post by Brutu » 08 Jan 2010, 04:41

Yeah,I think Ken Burns must have asked Samuel Jackson to use his super- cool, inner-city John Shaft voice as Jack Johnson.
When no doubt Jack Johnson was from the deep South.
I think as far as tone and delivery Jack Johnson sounded more like Nelson Mandela (or rather Nelson Mandela sounds like he did).
George Foreman's family moved to Houston from Marshal Texas which is on the border with Louisiana.
Living in Houston probably wouldnt have changed their accents much.
Also Jack Johnson sounds like he is deliverying a stage speech in some ways.
He pronounces the word word as"woid" which may indicate some New York City influence.

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Post by Brutu » 28 May 2011, 14:25

Here is a link where you can hear a few seconds of one of Jack Johnson's rare commercial recordings.
"Physical Culture"
Which he recorded at a South London sound recording studio about a week after his fight with Frank Moran
in the Summer of 1914.
The record was released to the commercial public in September 1914.
(As far as I know,only 2 copies of that recording are known to exist,one of which was found in Scotland in 1986)
The 1914 recording starts off decent but really starts to slow down so Johnson's voice sounds a little slow and distorted.
(Note:if u want to avoid hearing most of the blathering of the BBC twits,then fast forward to about the seven minute mark)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0112fv5

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Post by Brutu » 28 May 2011, 20:58

Just in case your curious,here is a link to the wax cylinder recording that Alfred ,Lord Tennyson recorded in 1890(at age 81 years).
He had written the poem,"The Charge of the Light Brigade" in 1855(The Battle of Balaclava occurred in the Crimea in October 1854).
(note-The poem is not being read by Jack Johnson ,but being read by Alfred ,Lord Tennyson himself )

(link to the 1890 wax recording with the words to the poem)

http://charon.sfsu.edu/tennyson/lightbrigadewax.html

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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by Cutman Scabbers » 29 May 2011, 06:05

Brutu wrote:Just in case your curious,here is a link to the wax cylinder recording that Alfred ,Lord Tennyson recorded in 1890(at age 81 years).
He had written the poem,"The Charge of the Light Brigade" in 1855(The Battle of Balaclava occurred in the Crimea in October 1854).
(note-The poem is not being read by Jack Johnson ,but being read by Alfred ,Lord Tennyson himself )

(link to the 1890 wax recording with the words to the poem)

http://charon.sfsu.edu/tennyson/lightbrigadewax.html

Thanks -- I enjoyed that!

Any more rare recordings?

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Post by Brutu » 29 May 2011, 07:59

Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Brutu wrote:

Thanks -- I enjoyed that!

Any more rare recordings?
Here is a rare recording of the voice of "The Lady With the Lamp"
Florence Nightingale
that was recorded in 1890(at age 70 years) on a wax cylinder
and later issued as a commercial recording in 1935 to raise money
for a charity.
(link to Florence Nightingale recording)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3B4gRQNU4

and here is the interesting story behind the recording.
http://www.countryjoe.com/nightingale/cylinder.htm

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Post by Brutu » 29 May 2011, 12:51

Here is the third wax cylinder recording that was made in 1890 to help some of the surviving veterans of the battle of Balaclava,
who were living in poverty.
It is the recording of Martin Lanfried
Trumpet major of the 17th Lancers who was wounded and had his horse killed at the battle.
(playing a trumpet that was used in the Battle of Waterloo June.18.1815)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qke-zjjYssM

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Post by Brutu » 30 May 2011, 12:37

Getting back to the subject of boxing and Jack Johnson's voice on recordings.
Here is a link to a really interesting chapter about Jack Johnson from the book LOST SOUNDS by Tim Brooks(2004)
and the story behind the various wax recordings that Johnson had made in 1910,1914 and 1924.(includes rare photos of Jack Johnson at the Edison Bell studios).pp237-254.


http://books.google.com/books?id=r-k9ys ... g=PA237&dq

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Post by Brutu » 24 Dec 2011, 08:33

Here is a link to the only known voice recording of Booker T. Washington
(recorded December.5.1908,probably in Chicago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZuvQJutHiY

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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by muray » 24 Dec 2011, 18:50

I am pretty sure I saw Jack Johnson working in a "flea circus"" on 42nd St in NYC in the 1940's. Can anybody verify this?

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Post by Brutu » 24 Dec 2011, 22:15

Jack Johnson did yearly engagements(perhaps more)
at the Hubert's Museum on 42nd street in NYC.
He was just one of the many acts that appeared there
on a given week.
He did that for about 9 years,from 1937 and had appeared there
a month before he was killed in 1946 while on his way to the Louis-Conn rematch.
BTW if you want to see what the exterior of Hubert's museum looked like,
rent the DVD
MIDNIGHT COWBOY(1969) starring Jon Voight.
I think it was still opened or had only recently closed down for good,when
that movie was filmed.

http://www.showhistory.com/huberts.html

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Post by Brutu » 25 Dec 2011, 10:40

Here is an interesting article from 2007 about Hubert's Museum on West 42nd st NYC,which was officially closed in 1965,but you could still go into the building and into the basement were the museum was for several more years afterwards and see some of the exhibits that were left behind .
William Heckler's Flea Circus had been one of the last surviving flea circus's in America
but it was gone fromthemuseum by 1960.
Hubert's Museum first opened in 1925 and was located at 228-232 West 42nd street NYC,
at the same building that housed a fancy resturant called Murray's Roman Gardens
that was closed during prohibition.
(Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum is at the location now).

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/arts/ ... 2arbu.html

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Post by Boilermaker » 25 Dec 2011, 18:58

Some truly awesome links in that lot, Thanks for posting.

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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by Caractacus » 22 Apr 2017, 15:38

Here he is conducting his 11- piece jazz band doing the "Tiger Rag".
(four different renditions of it!)
Recorded December.21.1929 at the Checker's club in Harlem in NYC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswBX3cBKAQ

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Re: Jack Johnson Speaks !!......(rare recordings of his voice)

Post by Caractacus » 22 Apr 2017, 15:39

Here is another link to some rare film with Jack Johnson speaking 16 years later, in the ring in the ballroom of the Henry Hudson Hotel in NYC in 1945 for a Liberty War Bonds rally.
(speaking in his theatrical stage voice)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqod-seL8gw

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