He was a pretty good fighter. It was very impressive of tyson to destroy him like he was a total bum.

Pretty much any fight with bert cooper or holyfield pre lewis is great

Kind of sad to see how happy and surprised he seemed that people were nice to him for a change. Reminded me of Mike Tyson a little. I suppose all that anger may have fuelled their fire a little though.

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Yeah good call.

Holyfield vs Bert Cooper was a great fight! There goes that man Holyfield again.!

The amount of upercuts Cooper ate in that fight made me cringe. He was a very tough dude, just a few notches below evender in terms of skill and athleticism.

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I think either Lewis in 2 if Wlad was aggressive or Lewis in 8 if he is cautious. It would be a much tougher fight than both guys are used to. I like Wlad but this is just a bad match up for him, he would probably have a better chance against ali or holyfield.

Why do some of you guys even watch boxing today? I mean if the best pound for pound fighter of the last 15 years doesnt even stand a chance against a p4p great of 30 years ago then it hardly seems worth while watching? Just because I've had a filet mignon doesn't mean I don't eat the occasional McD...

Why do some of you guys even watch boxing today? I mean if the best pound for pound fighter of the last 15 years doesnt even stand a chance against a p4p great of 30 years ago then it hardly seems worth while watching?

I quite enjoyed the first half of the book especially when he first started boxing. You could really tell he fell in love in love with it and it really did save his life. Once the book got into his drugged out haze it got a little goofy for me and I felt like I was reading a led zeppelin bio.

I dont think his loss to evander is an indication of what would happen against other elite fighters. Holyfield is just a really bad match up for mike especially at the age they fought, when he may have lost a little of the fire needed for a really ugly, frustrating war.

If Larry is to get credit for the Mercer win, which is a good win in his 40s, should the tyson loss not also count against him?

I have larry and lennox in around the 4-5 all time hw spots, some have lewis much lower but is larrys dance card really better? Is a witherspoon or a norton better than old holy or vitali? Shavers better than a tua? I'm not knocking larry I just think lewis gets a lot of undeserved criticism for his...

Other than holy, spoon, page and dokes he cleaned out the hw division in the 80s. Would have loved to see these fights but the latter 3 would have to have brought their absolute best to have stood a chance.

Really tough match up for George. I think he is the better fighter with the much better career but I could see him potentially losing this fight.

Next to Holyfield and Ali, I see Joe as the 3rd worst style match up for Mike. Either Mike in 5, or more likely,Frazier gets a late stoppage due to relentless pressure rather than a single blow.

He has to be in the 5-10 spot for me. You can pick apart any heavyweights resume not named Ali or Holyfield. Larry Holmes is universally considered to be a top 5 all time great and what are his 3 best wins? norton, cooney and shavers? I would pick Old Holyfield, Tua, and vitaly to beat those 3 in th...

With 2-3 more solid wins he will be top 15. Not sure he has the signature wins to ever put him in the top 10 but I do think he would beat some top guys for sure.