There was a case in England about 40 years ago where this bloke in Aldershot would go to pubs dressed as a bird & pick up squaddies. Several of them banged his bumhole outside boozers thinking they were shagging a fat bint in her Jack & Danny. He ended up getting a jail term , which he prob...

I can't agree that it was the end of innocence. Especially considering Kennedy was killed shortly before this. Something tells me that was a more traumatic moment for people that Ali vs Liston 2. Well, which event you guys consider as the End of the Innocence? John Lennon got shot and murdered. Joh...

I don't consider anything other than Wins, Losses, Level of Opposition, Quality of Performance and Championships at stake. Influence isn't really something you can quantify, but I'll agree with you that Sullivan undoubtedly had a tremendous influence on the sport for decades to come. I agree that i...

In no particular order the top 20 in terms of accomplishments would include the following Sullivan Fitzsimmons Jeffries Johnson Dempsey Louis Charles Marciano Patterson Liston Frazier Ali Foreman Holmes Tyson Holyfield Lewis Wladimir Usyk I'm reluctant to put Usyk in due to his extremely thin resum...

If it was so great guys like Moorer and old Foreman should have been kept away from the title. And the top guys should have been able to avoid losing to massive underdogs over and over. The 90s probably feature the worst lineal champs since Michael Spinks. All this despite fighting rarely and blata...

A win over a fringe contender should probably be zero points, maybe 1. Beating 10 fringe contenders should not get you as many points as beating one ATG near his prime. Having Holyfield over Tyson is certainly not proof is in the pudding. Tyson really does not have much of quantity edge over Holyfi...

Refined Ranking System Explanation As we know we have the points system here in the ratings on Boxrec, but we don't really know the rhyme or reason for who has what points or why for certain wins right? Well I will explain in great detail the system I've concocted here, and how I've arrived at the ...

Way too credit for wins over top25 ish guys. One win over Hearns or Hagler is a more important than 20 wins over guys like this. You are giving credit for beating guys that Leonard could not have possibly lost to. you can always find a guy that can't possibly lose to unless there some horrible offi...

Of course he's reverting to his default move of talking like a passive observer, claiming he doesn't know anything, and shifting blame. The buck stops literally anywhere but here. What a pathetic, loathsome man. It's crazy that he doesn't realise being so easily manipulated, as he seems to be claim...

It is still an unbelievable accomplishment. Cervantes was an extremely good fighter with excellent wins both before and after his loss to Benitez. Legalities aside, it is hard to imagine that accomplishment ever being matched or bettered. The idea of someone aged 17 years and 6 months winning a worl...

Stinker Starmer : "The longer the war goes on, the more likely an economic impact becomes.." yeah would help if you didn't hinder our allies in the first place wouldn't it you cowardly custard, go back to hiding in Lord Alli's home again... :doh: So you will be singing up to the military ...

Floyd lost 5 rounds against dlh, 4 against cotto, 5 against maidana, 4 judah, some to hatton.... He lost plentry rounds Castillo beat him, everyone knows it I just scored the first Castillo fight the other day. I scored it 113-113 Even. The second was lopsided in Mayweather’s favor. The Judah fight...

If Leonard wins and lands more punches, has he not outboxed him? I'm talking about how he'd have to strategically approach the fight. If he's trying to play the jabbing and counter punching game with Floyd, he's gonna get the worst of it however he has the option to step inside get in Floyd's chest...

Carlos Baldimir was 2 sanctioning fees payments away from being the undisputed and lineal WW champion in 2006. I just remember him being bang average. Would have been in the conversation as the worst undisputed champion in the 3 belt era if not for that.

I am going to miss Ice Barbie and her Mar-a-Lago face. She was an entertaining fraud. I wonder if it was the reports about her long extramarital affair with her unqualified subordinate, the $220 million government contract she gave to a shell company she is connected to or the fact that she effed t...

To cite a specific example you asked about. Charles beating Archie Moore would surely be All Time Great Non Title wins. Max Schmeling beating Joe Louis also would qualify as an All Time Great non title victory. An All TIme Great victory is pretty undeniable title or no title. The Championship Belt ...

Question Gil, how do you allow for the being more champions the closer we get to the current year. IE let’s say in the 60s a guy ranked as the top challenger fights the guy ranked 3rd. There is obviously no championship fight bonus. But if the IBF champ who’s ranked #5 by the ring takes on the 8th ...

Question Gil, how do you allow for the being more champions the closer we get to the current year. IE let’s say in the 60s a guy ranked as the top challenger fights the guy ranked 3rd. There is obviously no championship fight bonus. But if the IBF champ who’s ranked #5 by the ring takes on the 8th g...

If you could build a welterweight to beat Floyd, then it would look a lot like Tommy Hearns. I agree with Gil, I can’t see any conceivable way that Floyd could beat Hearns. Straight away there is a 6-inch reach advantage to overcome. Tommy's jab would be in Floyd face all night. Hearns’ weakness as ...

Remember how the Democrats and Biden's handlers closed ranks around Biden's rapid decline. That tells you everything about how MAGA/GOP/Trump's handlers will react. All they will do is basically play out 'Weekend at Bernies'. Why stop the music when everyone is making so much $$$? This. But the dif...

Before that collision happens, The Ring has also learned that Fury and Joshua are slated to see action in separate fights as part of next year's Riyadh Season. Just do the damn fight. It’s already five years too late, and now they want to risk it again like they did with Wilder vs. Parker as a buil...

Until he got tired Jake Paul was trying to survive, not win. But I can't blame him, he used just about every trick in the book to last the distance but eventually Joshua was always going to catch up to him. I agree with others who more or less said, losing to Joshua was better for his brand than sma...

Patterson did not have a broken back. He did go down once. He did show a lot of heart. Ali was just way too good. Why Floyd Patterson's seconds were trying to heal his back between rounds? Patterson was in pain. It is right there on the tape. I guess we saw a different fight. But, I applaud Patters...

I did find something on another forum but the member who was posting the articles always called him Roid Jones which made it a bit harder. If you search that term it will pop up.
It mostly talks about the Richard Hall fight and the mishandling by the commission and the IBF, WBA, WBC.

The story as I nknow it is he failed multiple tests throughout his acreer but had a team of lawyers who always got him off the hook. For the Tarver fight his legal team advised him he could no longer take whatever he was on - they would not be able to defend him. From then on he was not on the saem...