The pattern is consistent. A genuine superfight or a novelty card (Canelo–Crawford, Paul–Tyson, Joshua–Paul) can pull tens of millions on Netflix. Ordinary championship boxing on TNT/DAZN is in the mid-hundreds of thousands. Linear networks largely walked away. HBO and Showtime are gone. Casual fan...

He wasn't able to grow The Ring at all and boxing isn't in a better space today than it was 5 years ago. Most importantly, the money spigot in Saudi Arabia is not, you know, so much on anymore given geopolitical events. Oscar saying boxing will be better off when the last money man the sport has exi...

He’s not involved? Why would he be pushing it. I don't think it's that difficult to understand, particularly given what's been said by folks involved. https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/dana-white-secured-fury-joshua-netflix-deal-reveals-warren/310330 Dana brokered the deal with Netflix along wi...

This has become the Camacho/Sugar Ray Leonard of the modern HW division.

Having a hard time picturing this bout taking place in Saudi Arabia anytime this year given current dynamics. Any chatter about moving it to Vegas or it just being abandoned entirely if it can't be a sportwashing thing?

Dude was functionally retired before he got this last payday anyhow. What's really changed today?

Not paying attention means I learned only this week that BS is now owned by a promoter. No wonder it is running complete garbage puff pieces like arguing internet fans are wrong to assume a 36 year old guy who hasn't fought in three years after getting KOed might be washed up.

Extremely cool thread and news story linked here that offer literally zero details about when, where, whom, etc. about the contest. Is all boxing journalism just AI slop now that the sport is effectively dead?

That's not what he's really asking. Fighter signings: Trying to pay comparably big money to bring the biggest names or the most successful guys over from rival organisations and trying to keep them there while being unable to pick up the biggest names over in Pride. Dana signed Carlos Newton, Randy...

For those old enough to remember: Does the sequence of events(fighter signings, gaining legal approval, financial backing) seem very, very similar to the early days of Dana and the UFC together? No. Nothing alike. At the time when Dana took over the UFC, he was the manager of two of the biggest dra...

Netflix have such a weird approach to sport. Who can predict the next combat sport event announced on netflix after this one? When the WWE first came to Saudi Arabia, there were reports they had asked for guys to be booked on the show who had been dead for years like Yokozuna. I think about that a ...

Taansend wrote: ↑23 Feb 2026, 17:52 Remember when we used to think the first fight came too late

This killed me.

I hope this fight ends like SRL/Hearns 2: Mayweather in the Leonard role wins but everyone knows it's BS. Then maybe they can fight again in 2040.

Best fighter of his generation. The decision to not take the Spence fight in 2022 and instead target Avanesyan may have contributed to Fox abandoning PBC and the sport with it. Biggest issue I see with discussing his historical place in the sport is that there will be a small cult of fans left discu...

Terrible news to see. Ebo Elder was a helluva action fighter in the Shobox/ESPN2 FNF era.

Saw him fight in 2022 for the IBHOF fight show and he's trash. If he has any common sense he's better off seeking more medals over a belt he can't compete for realistically.

If we are including ones who have a team/friendly doctor using creative TUEs (how many top cyclists and soccer players conveniently get diagnosed with asthma in their late teens and 20s and use the medication, for example?), I would say the percentage of the Top 100 is close to 100%. I am at that p...

Hunter needed to take meaningful fights back when there was an outlet for boxing other than DAZN in the US. Now it's too late.

Badou Jack was willing to fight anyone and also fought to the level of his opposition. I will always respect him immensely for that. But at some point, you gotta call it quits and go sit on the couch. IDK if he spent all his money or what.

Great points, that so many hater casuals don't seem to ever get, as in,(The point of reasoning). They just prefer to hate and use they're favorite word "Excuses". As you alluded to, pointing out Loma's attributes/forte based strengths... His style is very heavily reliant on athleticism, l...

How many fights were televised in the US this year; not streamed, televised? I don't even know if we averaged a card per month. Regardless of how important streaming is to literally everything, top sports properties are televised and get big TV contracts related to those rights. Boxing isn't one of ...

Recency bias exists; I mean, would the same people who argue that Tyson Fury is clearly better than the generation of heavyweights which preceded him say that Floyd Mayweather Jr. gets tuned up by Ryan Garcia or that Bivol gives Michael Spinks the business? You know, they probably would. Nevermind.

Valuev and Fury are very different. For starters, Valuev never gets to win any title if he has remotely competent judges for either the Larry Donald or John Ruiz fights. Valuev also managed to make a very old and very shot Evander Holyfield appear young and vibrant again as one of his last acts in t...

That's an interesting list. Calzaghe probably does get overlooked, a lot of it being because it took him many years to establish himself as THE GUY at 168, and then his biggest wins are over an aged B-Hop and Roy Jones really, but in all fairness as we all saw B-Hop still had some big fights and wi...

Usyk in a pure post-2000 list does exceedingly well. Not Floyd or Manny, not BHop, not Choc, but probably right in line after them. They just had volume in their favor. In terms of his perception, Usyk like all of us is captive in the moment. I knew many people who were completely convinced Tyson Fu...

Either #1 or #2 at cruiser. At HW, there just isn't that much of a sample size. Holyfield had 23 HW fights before he faced John Ruiz on the backend of his career. Usyk has had 23 professional bouts that are recognized by Boxrec period (I'd argue we should include the WSB stuff too but alas).