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by HOGBEAR
04 Jun 2004, 17:30
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Mario Miranda
Replies: 1
Views: 201

You posted, so you tell us.
by HOGBEAR
02 Jun 2004, 17:10
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Ring Champs
Replies: 14
Views: 756

Official decisions trump everything. Byrd shouldn't move down in rankings for WINNING. Vitali shouldn't leapfrog six other fighters for LOSING (by TKO). Until he'd beaten Sanders, Vitali Klitschko had never beaten anyone in Ring magazine's Top 10. But this misses the point. Ring is a magazine, and t...
by HOGBEAR
02 Jun 2004, 16:43
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Ring Champs
Replies: 14
Views: 756

As much as I don't like the sacntioning bodies, I think it makes sense to draw the line there. They sanction the fights; The Ring sanctions nothing. Further, if boxrec started recognizing Ring champs, they would also have to recognize lineal champs, USA Today champs, Maxboxing.com champs, eastsidebo...
by HOGBEAR
02 Jun 2004, 13:00
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Two questions:
Replies: 14
Views: 721

What if the roles were reversed and it was Clazaghe who went down 2nd. :roll: Do U think the referee would have stopped it? :-? In Joe’s hometown? :lol: I wonder where the term hometown decision came from? :roll: I'm not arguing whether or not the stoppage was controversial (I think it was a bad st...
by HOGBEAR
01 Jun 2004, 20:47
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Missing/incorrect knockdown notes
Replies: 4
Views: 386

No problem. I'll add others as I find them. Here's another that's not noted (Holyfield/Tyson): http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/boxing/tyson-holyfield/stories/downout.html Holyfield, 215, knocked Tyson down with a left hook in the sixth round with 37 seconds. Tyson went down on the seat of his pa...
by HOGBEAR
01 Jun 2004, 19:16
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Missing/incorrect knockdown notes
Replies: 4
Views: 386

For Ward vs. Gatti I, Gatti was knocked down in the ninth round by a left hook to the body.
by HOGBEAR
01 Jun 2004, 13:03
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Two questions:
Replies: 14
Views: 721

If you see any controversial decision tags in bouts during the last 30 years, post them here. We will then delete them. What about "controversial stoppage"? "Controversial stoppage. Calzaghe down for the first time in his career in Round 2, but gets up to floor Mitchell less than a m...
by HOGBEAR
01 Jun 2004, 12:58
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Missing/incorrect knockdown notes
Replies: 4
Views: 386

Missing/incorrect knockdown notes

For Freitas vs. Ramirez, a knockdown was called against Freitas in the second round: Freitas rallied from a disputed second-round knockdown to deck Ramirez twice in the third. The champion continued to punish Ramirez with both hands in the fourth before the referee stepped in to stop the proceedings...
by HOGBEAR
29 May 2004, 14:19
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Carlos Hernández
Replies: 3
Views: 481

"Mayweather suffered the first knockdown of his career when his right glove touched the canvas in the sixth round"

Sounds like a fair way to note it.

I also noticed the Freitas comments were deleted.

Thanks for the updates, guys. :TU:
by HOGBEAR
28 May 2004, 11:49
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Carlos Hernández
Replies: 3
Views: 481

Is anyone going to address this? Are only some knockdown calls noted? If so, why? You should either note them all or none of them. You also need to figure out a system for editorializing knockdown calls. The following appears in the Freitas/Grigorian entry: Grigorian down four times. Three of the &q...
by HOGBEAR
26 May 2004, 14:13
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Tarver by KO2 or TKO2?
Replies: 5
Views: 375

Thanks, tegenm.
by HOGBEAR
26 May 2004, 14:02
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Tarver by KO2 or TKO2?
Replies: 5
Views: 375

As far as I know, if the fighter is unable to get to his feet by 10, it's a KO. A TKO is any other kind of stoppage.

I think Nady got to 10. Buffer's comments sort of indicate this; I think he'd be announcing exactly what Nady told him to.
by HOGBEAR
26 May 2004, 13:40
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Tarver by KO2 or TKO2?
Replies: 5
Views: 375

Tarver by KO2 or TKO2?

I posted this in the Current section, but I have a feeling it'll garner a bunch or moronic replies, so I'm also posting it here. The AP and the WBA Online report it was a TKO2, but boxrec and FightNews report (correctly, in my opinion) that Nady got to 10, and thus it was a KO2. I think Buffer also ...
by HOGBEAR
23 May 2004, 17:36
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Carlos Hernández
Replies: 3
Views: 481

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Carlos Hernández

Mayweather suffered a knockdown in round six. From: http://espn.go.com/boxing/news/2001/0526/1205368.html "Mayweather, 24, suffered the first knockdown of his career when his right glove touched the canvas in the sixth round. He wasn't hit, but was given a standing eight count by referee Dale G...
by HOGBEAR
22 May 2004, 15:50
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Hello everyone I am new here. "But i saw something in t
Replies: 2
Views: 286

See this thread:

http://www.boxrec.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... l+decision

Also see the thread on this page called "Two Questions."
by HOGBEAR
21 May 2004, 11:47
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Two questions:
Replies: 14
Views: 721

tegenm wrote:If you see any controversial decision tags in bouts during the last 30 years, post them here. We will then delete them.
Bowe-Tubbs
Holmes-Spinks
Holmes-Spinks II
Holmes-C.Williams
Holmes-'Spoon
E.Morales-Barrera
E.Morales-Barrera II
E.Morales-Espades
Ali-Norton II
Ali-Norton III
Ali-Young
by HOGBEAR
21 May 2004, 10:45
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Two questions:
Replies: 14
Views: 721

I really don't care if "dives" aren't noted. The fighter who takes a dive should have the ugly KO mark on his record without explanation if he's willing to do something so dishonorable. Lewis/Holyfield is one of the worst decisions in heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP history, so I don't see the co...
by HOGBEAR
20 May 2004, 23:15
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Two questions:
Replies: 14
Views: 721

The worst part is that not all of the "controversial decision" comments have been removed, just some of them. So while the first Holyfield vs. Lewis fight is labeled just "DRAW," irrelevant fights such as Larry Holmes vs. Mo Harris still have the controversial tag. In my opinion,...
by HOGBEAR
13 May 2004, 14:05
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Lennox Lewis' IBF belt
Replies: 4
Views: 703

Lennox Lewis' IBF belt

Lennox Lewis' IBF belt disappears from his record without explanation. It should be noted how that belt was lost—i.e., whether he vacated to avoid fighting Chris Byrd, or whether he was stripped for failing to fight Chris Byrd.
by HOGBEAR
02 May 2004, 00:45
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Cotto
Replies: 3
Views: 1003

Cotto

Petty question, but why is Miguel Cotto's middle name ("Angel") displayed on his record? The few times I've seen him fight, I've never heard the ring announcer or commentators use it. (Is that a middle name?)

Just curious.
by HOGBEAR
15 Apr 2004, 10:35
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Heavyweight "Zeros"
Replies: 3
Views: 419

This crap keeps clogging up my boxing searches on digital cable. I just figured it was Playboy playmates fighting or something; I didn't realize it was PPV tape-delayed professional boxing.
by HOGBEAR
01 Apr 2004, 15:48
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Ring mag got it wrong
Replies: 10
Views: 618

And Vitali/Sanders is a part of that line...how?
by HOGBEAR
29 Mar 2004, 01:05
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Ring mag got it wrong
Replies: 10
Views: 618

Re: Ring mag got it wrong

What about Botha/Shultz?
by HOGBEAR
26 Mar 2004, 13:34
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Peden/Campbell Editorial Note
Replies: 9
Views: 771

Kudos, boxrec editors! I see the Vitali note was changed:

"After the 9th round Klitschko claimed a injured shoulder and the bout was stopped. He was later diagnosed with a torn rotator cuff."

Sounds objective to me.
by HOGBEAR
23 Mar 2004, 11:39
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Peden/Campbell Editorial Note
Replies: 9
Views: 771

I see your point, but it seems to me that the goal of boxrec's editorial comments is to avoid subjectivity and to report facts. Just because Vitali started feeling pain in the third round doesn't mean he separated his shoulder during that round. The fact that Vitali said it doesn't make it "obj...