The one question that was never answered about Bowe is he never faced a puncher. We would know the outcome after this fight. Blocking punches with his face his whole carreer suggests he would have a really hard time against 1991 Tyson, especially the first few rounds. Tyson was levels below Bowe as...

The Tyson that lost to Holyfield in 11rds has enough to beat McCall. It's not like Mike folded easily and Holyfield was juiced to the grills and fought a great fight.

Sanders and Brewtser were indeed plenty for him.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑23 May 2026, 20:01 Usyk takes a leap forward in the all time rankings after his victory today over Rico Verhoeven.

I can't agree that it was the end of innocence. Especially considering Kennedy was killed shortly before this. Something tells me that was a more traumatic moment for people that Ali vs Liston 2. Well, which event you guys consider as the End of the Innocence? John Lennon got shot and murdered. Joh...

Probably won't happen, but yes it could. At the same time, I'm of the opinion that the Ngannou fights lowered Fury's stock much more than they raised Joshua's. Because even if they were fighting and experienced pro fighter, he was still a novice boxer. Same for Rico.

Usyk is a very good fighter, beating Rico means nothing. It's the same as beating Rick Roufous when he crossed over to boxing.

Yes, I plunked down money to watch a heavyweight PPV fight. :lol: Maybe, just maybe Usyk is not that great. Imagine if someone from the past struggled with a kick boxer. That would be considered an embarrassment and would be the first thing that they would be brought up every time that guy was ment...

Again, you fail to realize that old time fighters didn't chase an undefeated record. Records suggests that Downey and Meehan were nothing special? Someone lost to Joe Jeannette? Must have sucked! I would rank Wlad higher if he had more losses but negated those with great wins. He has Byrd. The Piane...

I'm not even sure if he weathers the 1st rd assault that Tyson brought against Lewis.

Expug wrote: ↑09 May 2026, 16:58 Archie Moore rallying to stop Yvonne Durelle comes to mind

This is the one.

Tyson fought with a broken back
Duran's cramps in No Mas
Foreman's many excuses after losing to Ali. Poisoned, Loose ropes, etc.
MOsley blamed his new shoes when he lost to Pac.

Even outswim Usain Bolt.

Answer me this. Is Roy Jones Jr. The greatest Light Heavyweight of all time? Could Roy Jones beat a puncher like Bob Foster in his prime? You may still believe the answer to these questions is Yes, but there's doubt isn't there? Doubt that wouldn't have been there if Roy hadn't been knocked out so ...

The fact that you guys still think I can't grasp the concept of Prime is cute. Like you all think you're teaching me something about Boxing. It's like an Elementary school teacher trying to explain Math to Einstein, and acting like he's not getting it. You guys fixate on 1 element. I take in everyt...

Greasy one. So Who?

You had more meaningful and important races too.

Norton's 3 Quality wins are worth more than Morrison's 4. YES His 7 losses are also more damaging to his reputation than Morrison's 3. NO I consider fighters like Bobick and Stander to be Fringe contenders. They were solid wins for Norton, one notch shy of being considered Good/Quality wins. For Mo...

2x Ali, 2x Frazier, Ellis, Chuvalo and Norton are 7 out of his 9 losses. Lucky for him he never had to face Ruddock's first conqueror, the mighty David Jaco lol .

Yet the more you defend Morrison the more ridiculous you look. Damiani beat Johnny Duploy to become the first WBO HW champ. 2 years later Moorer vacated that same title to be sanctionned by relevant organizations, for a real tilte shot. Morrison then became champ of a vacant belt. 3 years later, Aki...

Tommy Morrison has 4 Quality wins to Norton's 3 Morrison didn't beat a single contender in their prime. Norton beat the best heavyweight in the history of the sport and that was before Ali beat Foreman. That win puts him in a different stratosphere to Tommy Morrison. But wait, Morrison beat Foreman...

Ok you got us Morrison was better than Norton

See...you just said one of Spinks' big wins as a Heavyweight is Cooney. Foreman also beat Cooney, easier in fact...and then Morrison beat Foreman. Foreman in his very next bout after losing to Morrison WON THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE WORLD! By knocking out Michael Moorer. So he wasn't a f*c...

The one good win during his comeback is Moorer. His best fight is the loss to Holyfield. No I'm not coming up wit a system to back my claims as the existing ones, the belts lineage, the videos and records are enough for me to rank the fighters. Subjective pts system to backup your biases, it's not g...

So wrong yet so condescending. Oh so Witherspoon was inconsistent, so knowledgeable.. Witherspoon started his career in 1979. By 1992 he only had 3 losses. 9 of the 13 losses came in 1996 or later. But we all know that you don't put perspective into when the fights are happening in the career of the...