i want him to fight joe smith :yay: if not joe, then bert, bivol, or davey benavidez maybe canelo is so gewd he could beat briedis or dorticos :oo Golovkin. I know a lot of people are tired of hearing it but it's the fight tht makes the most sense. It will bring in the most viewers and the most mon...

tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Jan 2019, 18:30 I don't think there ever was a heavyweight champion who has been knocked down more than Patterson.

Patterson was down the most in HW title fights. Ezzard Charles was down more times in his entire career though (mostly when he was well past-prime though). Both mwn were down over 20 times.

Bowe by KO. Patterson was quick and he punched hard... for a man his size. Patterson was down more than 20 times though. Patterson has not a defensive wizard. Bowe is 4 or 5 inches taller, has a considerable reach advantage, and is about 40 Lbs. heavier. Bowe moved well for a man his size, he also p...

At HW Evander Holyfield is a 4x World Champ, 5x if you count the WBF (I don't). He beat more Lineal HW Champs than anyone else, 7... Joe Louis beat 6. Holyfield beat Foreman, Holmes, Tyson x2, Douglas, Bowe, Moorer, and Rahman. He had a Draw with Lineal HW Champ Lewis. He is also the only Undisputed...

Most wins without a loss by a World Champ- Jimmy Barry retired at 59-0-9 with 2 No-Decisions Side note- Ricardo Lopez retired at 51-0-1 Most wins without a blemish (a Draw is a blemish) by a World Champ- Floyd Mayweather Jr. Retired at 50-0 Longest unbeaten streak from the beginning of a career- Jim...

He is definitely an all-time great. He beat the following world title holders: Mario Martinez (IBO) Roger Mayweather x2 Rocky Lockridge Juan LaPorte Francisco Tomas da Cruz (WBF) Edwin Rosario Rafael Limon Jose Luis Ramirez Sammy Fuentas Meldrick Taylor x2 Jaime Balboa (IBC) Lonnie Smith Hector Cama...

Liston had arguably the greatest jab in heavyweight history, and was pretty light on his feet despite this image of him being some plodder. He had an incredible reach (85") despite only being 6'0", and according to Chuck Wepner and other old timers I have interviewed he hit harder than Ge...

Gotta bump this old thread

I'm all about the H2H match-ups. The fighters historical importance (political, social, whatever) doesn't really matter to me. The bottom line is that H2H David Tua knocks the crap out of plenty of the old timers on the list. He has the right combination of size, strength, one shot power in either h...

I'm starting to hate any list that has fighters specifically numbered. Groups of ten I can dig or even tiers but 1,2,3,etc... that's lame! I don't care about numbers so much, its all about who could beat who. With that said, how could the Klitchkos not be mentioned? Ibeaubuchi was mentioned with a m...

Ken Norton was the WBC HW champ for a short time in 1978 but he went 0-3 in World Title Bouts. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

In 290 pro bouts Young Stribling went 225-13-15 (128) 3NC. He also went 32-2 in Newspaper Decisions.

He fought for the Light Heavyweight (L15 Paul Berlenbach) and Heavyweight (LKOby15 Max Schmeling... his only KO loss) World Titles.

Harry Wills, Sam McVea, Joe Jeannette, Sam Langford

Charley Burley, Jimmy Bivins, Oba Carr,

danamite5 wrote:a think he woulda beat hearns but a doubt heed of beat leonard
but a still think yank abott woulda beat the three of em

Are you talking about Tank Abott? That guy svcks. He's lost more time than he's won (10-14 MMA record).

danamite5 wrote:a think he woulda beat hearns but a doubt heed of beat leonard
but a still think yank abott woulda beat the three of em

wrong, right, and wrong... but to each his own

Well you could take Hearns vs Leonard as a referer...Except Leonard was a bigger man than PBF. Hearns lost their 1st fight and arguably won the rematch but got a draw. Leonard was much better IMO. They fought in 1981 at WW. Hearns actually was outboxing Leonard in their first fight until the 14th r...

Arguello was quite a fine boxer wasn't he? In my opinion Arguello was a great fighter, massive puncher, great heart, and an all-time great. However, he did not have the footwork or speed of Mayweather. I rank Arguello very high, even higher than Mayweather but style makes fights and Mayweather is t...

Pryor by decision. Mayweather wouldn't be able to keep Pryor off of him. Pryor would walk thru Mayweather's best shots and land his own. It would be close but Pryor would pull it out IMO.

108 Lyakhovich messed me up because it was mispelled... also a few of the IBO champs. I was proud of myself for knowing Lee Savold though. I got all of the ones that mattered. I thought it had to be in order at first, lost some time on that.

Liston fought plenty of good fighters. C. Wepner KO10 L. Martin LKOby9 M. Ali x2 (LKOby1 and LKOby7) F. Patterson x2 (KO1 x2) E. Machen W12 Z. Folley KO3 C. Williams KO2 and KO3 N. Valdes KO3 M. Marshall x3 (W10, KO6, and L8) even R. Harris (KO1) and J. Summerlin x2 (W8 x2) were decent fighters. Wit...

Chagaev, undefeated champ dawg, oh yeah! Even if Big Nik beats him, he'll still be in this group.[/quote] I mentioned Chagaev... I also noted that he is not the HW "World" champ though (WBA champ). I also forgot to add Lewis who has a win over every fighter he faced as a pro. Yes, Bowe nev...

Damn, you can never admit when you're wrong. - Sweet Mother of Hera, I wasn't wrong for weeding out Big Dummy from that grouping. Big Dummy should've been DQed against Tillery who could've sued the shorts off his thug/manager Newman. He was handed a unified title which he promptly blew apart and he...

I'm not sure where you got your information BB49 but Jr. Middleweight never-a-champ Tony Ayala Jr. got KO'd twice and never rematched Bonsante or Campas... nice job on the research Einstein. - Yeah, but he retired undefeated as did Jeffries. So what if they come back 6 yrs or 15 yrs later? Ike also...

you missed ingemar johansson - Yeah, he also missed Carlos Monzon, Jimmy Barry, Terry Marsh, Too Tall Jones, Joe Calzaghe, Spaddy, Tony Ayala, Ike, Ingo, and too many fighters to count. Poor guy botched the question, he did. Ayala never beat Campas or Bonsante... but they beat him. How about Jemal ...