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by DustbinDave
10 Jun 2014, 00:00
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Possible Errors/Omissions: World Title Fights 1962-72 & 1997
Replies: 0
Views: 171

Possible Errors/Omissions: World Title Fights 1962-72 & 1997

(1) According to this list: http://boxrec.com/title_search.php?title=WBC&division=Welterweight&SUBMIT=Go&pageID=3 ...... Emile Griffith fought Jorge Jose Fernandez for the WBC welterweight title on 1962-12-08. I do not understand how this is possible because the WBC did not form until 19...
by DustbinDave
04 Jun 2009, 21:53
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Re: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

Wasn't it Valuev's promoter (Kalle Sauerland)? I doubt Chagaev's team would admit that Chagaev is only in a challeger position. He's even crossed out the addition of "in recess" in "WBA heavyweight champion in recess" on his name plate at a press conference. Apologies, that was ...
by DustbinDave
03 Jun 2009, 23:08
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Re: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

Steve Bunce, the boxing pundit on Setanta, doesn't even know the full situation in regards to the WBA heavyweight championship belt and what he doesn't know about boxing isn't worth knowing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWBmrz4exQ He discusses the situation in this youtube clip! On Steve Bunce's ...
by DustbinDave
03 Jun 2009, 00:45
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Re: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

Hello Claudevsq, Right, if Drumond would have won, he would now be the co-champion to Valuev, and would also have earned the right to fight Valuev, because this was a voluntary defense by Chagaev. He risked his title though he didn't have to... But it's academic, as you say, because he won... He's n...
by DustbinDave
23 Feb 2009, 23:15
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!
Replies: 12
Views: 458

Re: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!

You mean the "vacant WBO junior heavyweight title"... that's how the WBO officially calls it. :D Indeed, you are quite right. :TU: Adding to what I said yesterday, the Light Welterweight division (I guess that's Junior Welterweight :D) had a bit of a history of having an interim champion ...
by DustbinDave
22 Feb 2009, 23:18
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!
Replies: 12
Views: 458

Re: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!

Thanks for that Emaster. Sounds like a complicated scenario. The title was vacant from when De La Hoya vacated it in early 1997 (some time between January 18, 1997 and April 12, 1997) right the way through to August 21, 1999 - that is an awful long time for such a prestigious belt to have no owner! ...
by DustbinDave
22 Feb 2009, 02:13
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!
Replies: 12
Views: 458

Re: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!

Hi. Thanks for the information! :TU: :TU: :TU: There was a very similar scenario to this in the WBC Light Welterweight division just over a decade ago if I'm not mistaken. Oscar De La Hoya vacated his WBC Light Welterweight following his victory over Miguel Angel Gonzalez on January 18, 1997 so he c...
by DustbinDave
20 Feb 2009, 03:12
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!
Replies: 12
Views: 458

Re: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!

Hello again. Thanks very much to claudevsq and Asterix for answering my questions. Victor Emilio Ramirez must be the only fighter in boxing history to win a world title by refusing a fight! I find this extraordinary! Poor old Enzo Maccarinelli......the WBO give him the first right of refusal, if you...
by DustbinDave
17 Feb 2009, 01:52
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Re: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

Thanks very much to claudevsq and Emaster for answering all my questions with such clarity! The press reporting of the fight was so inconsistent because so many different media outlets didn't know what was at stake! Many referred to Ruslan Chagaev as "Champion In Recess" post-fight, whilst...
by DustbinDave
17 Feb 2009, 01:17
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!
Replies: 12
Views: 458

Query Regarding The WBO Cruiserweight Championship!

I was wondering if somebody could explain to me the situation as far as the WBO cruiserweight championship is concerned. Here is a bit of background for you: On May 12, 2008, David Haye vacated his titles of WBC Cruiserweight champion and WBA Cruiserweight Super champion when he announced that he wa...
by DustbinDave
08 Feb 2009, 22:33
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Re: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

Thank you very much for that information, Claudevsq. I suppose it would not make any sense for Chagaev to hold the title of "Champion In Recess" anymore (whether he had won or lost on Saturday) as he is no longer in a period of recess. However Claudevsq, do you know what the official WBA l...
by DustbinDave
08 Feb 2009, 03:55
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Re: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

I think the issue is further complicated by the fact that Ruslan Chagaev decided to fight Carl Davis Drumond in his first comeback fight and not the WBA world heavyweight title holder (Nikolay Valuev) for the world heavyweight title. If Carl Davis Drumond had won the fight last night, would he (Drum...
by DustbinDave
07 Feb 2009, 03:43
Forum: Record Queries & Updates
Topic: Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!
Replies: 19
Views: 1385

Chagaev-Drumond is not for the WBA heavyweight title!

Hello. As I am new to this forum, I apologise if this issue has been discussed in the past. However, I have noticed that Boxrec.com is suggesting that the fight between Ruslan Chagaev-Carl Davis Drumond is for the WBA heavyweight title. As I understand it, Nikolay Valuev's fight against John Ruiz in...