Thrilla in Manilla. Ali and Frazier Both ha Unfinished Buisness. It was sort of the Decider... Rumble in the Jungle. Fact that They were ready to Send Ali to the Hospital Before the Match, and Foreman the undefeated the Champ was set to Destroy Ali. Turned out to be Foremans only Loss by KO. You ne...

"...calling a clear knockdown of Ali by Frazier in the 11th round a "slip..." - Gran :lol: Better get that optometrist's prescription sorted, you loveable old fossil, you. Can I knuckle your head for good luck? Irene has had her head knuckled TOO MANY TIMES. Frazier hit Ali with a le...

Who could have Mike Tyson have faced to satisfy his nay-Sayers? Ahhh...nobody...he demonstrated exactly what he was by the guys he did face...his legacy is crystal clear, the greatest under-achiever in the history of the division... Talented...yes, heart...none, brains...non-existant, self destruct...

Jaclem wrote:..elmer...hey, you've been on this forum long enough to know not to ask a reasonable question without getting those answers from the guys in the closet.

Uh huh

Ali never avenged anything with Norton. Ali lost the first and third fights big, the second one was closer, but Norton probably won it too. Ali and Norton both know who won the fights. Norton always says that he beat Ali all three times. The third fight is the worst decision I have seen in a champi...

In my opinion he'd have had 3 great years of boxing. If Frazier was properly prepared for his challenge I think he'd have beaten Ali. It would have been close either way and a rematch set up. (the 3 extra years would have taken their toll) The 3 years of wear and tear on his body would have had an ...

Who had the BEST chin? Frank Bruno. 20% [ 1 ] Earnie Shavers, 20% [ 1 ] Tommy Morrison. 0% [ 0 ] Cleveland Williams. 20% [ 1 ] Carl Williams. 0% [ 0 ] Shannon Briggs. 20% [ 1 ] Mike Weaver. 20% [ 1 ] Leon Spinks. 0% [ 0 ] I believe that this is binary for "we all kind of suck." What's you...

Victor*KC wrote:Ugh. Hearns never lost his legs from a single shot, at least not at 147. Look at all the tough shots from Hagler it took before Hearns lost his legs.

Your right it was from an accumulation
of punishment

...a very brief accumulation....considering he didn't make the end of the 3rd round....

Ezzard wrote:Hearns could win a 4 rounder IMO.

...if he lasted that long...Robinson could bang hard too...

Bob Burton

Maybe he was born in 1913 but as happens to some he was then "Born Again" in 1916....Could this account for this flagrant discrepancy? An early christian fundamentalist conversion? As we know he had already inflicted several vicious KO's by this time and may have been looking for absoluti...

After all these posts, you still haven't given ANY good reasons why Moore was born in 1913, other than at one point his mother said so. Is that supposed to be good posting? Are a you a complete and total moron...? You can't really PROVE it either way...and as far as good posting...You are just anot...

Decagon wrote:You do realize, that makes no sense whatsoever? If I indeed did Google searches all the time, wouldn't I be quite good at it?

You post here all the time, and you're NOT good at that...

The basic point is this: If I'm discussing something with someone I respect, like Brockton, Barry, Collins and most of the people here, I probably would have looked it up. I doubt you'd know where to look... You're just some dumbass who doesn't know what he's talking about. We get your sort in here...

...I look forward to the interesting, spirited, opinionated, educational and sometimes thought provoking threads of 2007!...

I bet if we could ask Billy Conn, Max Schmelling, Ezzard Charles, or Arturo Godoy, they would disagree with you. :) :P I'll bet they wouldn't... especially Billy Conn ...who said after Ali-Frazier I, "Joe Louis would've beat both those guys" Ali...would pick Louis apart No, Ali wouldn't &...

Yes, but Marciano was also quoted as saying to his closest friends and relatives that he was unimpressed with Ali once he 'sparred; with him for the benefit of their 1969 computer fight and Marciano's brother said that Rocky told him 'He's a good kid, but in my prime I would have killed him' And wh...

Um, I can't remember it verbatim, but I remember that there were two kids in the household (I think), one four and one nine. If you were as smart as you think you are...you could have looked it up in about 20 minutes on several different internet sights...but since you spend most of your time doing...

Um, it was eight years ago. Am I supposed to remember every word of everything I read? If you're going to use it here, as some kind of expert know-it-all, yes...absolutely...YOU brought it up...like it is just sooooo important to know exactly how old he was...like it makes a big damn difference, or...

<<<<<i>>>> I agree. I sometimes take heat for having Louis as #6 on my list of all time greats. But the simple fact is, Marciano, Ali, Forman, Holmes and Johnson were all better then Louis in their primes. If Joe Louis faced the five guys you mentioned 3 times each...prime vs. prime...he would win ...

Most boxing fans old and new alike rate Muhammad Ali as the ‘Greatest’ of all time, or at least inside the top three. Bert Sugar ranks Ali at #2 behind Joe Louis, stating that though he felt Ali was the fastest he lacked the power that is expected from Heavyweights. I myself have huge respect for M...

Decagon wrote:I read it in the 1990s or so, when it was first made public.

If you can't answer the questions...you didn't see shit...

I doubt you ever saw an actual census report from that time period in your life...

...I think you do a lot of "google seaches"...and, it shows!

...or maybe...you just did a "Google search"...

Did you actually see the damn census photocopy? Did you even know they were hand written, often near illegible, taken from the WORD of someone living there ? You seem to know everything else...Was your dad named Terap??? Just curious... I read a verbatim copy of the census report. I don't think you...

The Great John L wrote:

Victor*KC wrote:Joe Walcott - Don't know too much about him but too high

A classic comment!!

...definitely a well thought out 'expert' opinion...