Hey All, Whenever I see discussions turn to the third man in the ring, Cappuccino's name doesn't seem to come up too often, in either a positive or negative light. He was always one of my favorites, can't remember any controversial calls from him at all. Some of my other favorites are Steve Smoger, ...

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 15:29 From 86-89 he lost 29 official rounds.,(all 3 judges)

Thanks for looking that up. I counted roughly 104 rds in total, so roughly he lost a third of those. That's really good, but not as good as I'd thought.

Boo-hoo I thought it was at the end of the round. Don't remember much about it. No interest in watching it, but you just have to deal with the fact is the real deal is Mike's daddy. Nobody would have made a big deal out of anyone doing that You yourself said he wasn't hurt. No big deal. You are rea...

He just caught a flush shot. He was fine.
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Exactly. But if it was Holyfield that got hit by that shot, and went on to win the round, people would talk about how great his chin was and how much of a warrior he was.

I could care less about Tyson holding other fighters. He does not get enough recognition for what I started the thread about. Couldn't, you couldn't care less. You didn't start the thread about how it drives you crazy when people say stuff like Bruno 'rocked' him either. Sometimes other points come...

I think Holyfield beat the last of the prime outta Tyson. But I don't hear the amount of rounds won during the years I mentioned to his credit. in the same way as say Whitaker or Jones Jr get recognized for it. His prime ended when he went to jail. Those guys, especially Whitaker, were beating bett...

Pinklon Thomas was looking good enough to give him a round or two, as far as I remember. I also remember Frank Bruno rocking Tyson a bit in the first, but I don't remember, if his overall performance in that round was better than Tyson's. This is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about, the Bru...

I was just wondering on the % during those years I mentioned. It seems Tyson fans never mention how few rounds he lost in that time period, but seem to know every detail about is power, speed, KO's, etc. I don't usually do lists of ranking ATG boxers, but I think Tyson would come in somewhere around...

I think Holyfield beat the last of the prime outta Tyson. But I don't hear the amount of rounds won during the years I mentioned to his credit. in the same way as say Whitaker or Jones Jr get recognized for it.

I was looking through the records here on BoxRec and noticed Tyson seems to have lost relatively few rounds during what I consider his peak years ('85 - '89). Any Tyson fans out there that know roughly the % of rounds he lost during this time? I started thinking I was looking at Pernell Whitaker's r...

I normally am skeptical when people claim fix. I think it's usually on the level when people are claiming fix. (I mean fix by the fighters. Refs and judges are more suspicious) However, this fight always bugged me. 1. Look at what happened before the knockdown. Walcott just wasn't doing hardly anyt...

Here's how I picture Marciano vs Fury going: Fury comes out looking to crush the smaller man, throwing huge overhand rights that continually sail over the tiny, crouching Rock's head. As Rocky bores in and works the body, Fury immediately tries to lean on him but finds Marciano too low to the ground...

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 13:47 #1, pushes Liston to #2.

Yep

I have read the opinion that Jersey Joe was not even that hurt by the punch that KO'd him. It seems to me he could have tried to rise earlier to beat the count from what I see, have to agree with that. BUT he was hurt bad, his legs were really stiff when he got up. I am tired of the amateur psychos ...

Nobody wants to see anyone get hurt, but I wonder if some of the cat and mouse of boxing is lost when you take away rounds. Excellent observations, agree with everything stated in this post! I get the feeling that fighters were generally more intelligent, alert and aware in the 15 rd days, knowing ...

stmill42 wrote: ↑09 May 2020, 22:23 In effect, SRL went up in weight to the loving arms of Tommy Hearns, RATHER than fight the number one in his division...Aaron Pryor!

That is classic!

The 50's, lets say.

1. Has nutrition science made a difference in a fighters potential strength/cardio? 2.Has there been any serious improvement in training methods that would nullify the "quantity of fights" point being made here? Good questions. When I watch older fights as compared to today, I tend to see...

So it wouldn’t make any sense for anyone to compare Marciano’s punching power to a modern-day heavyweight, because he often entered the ring lighter than the likes of Isaac Chilemba, Eleider Alvarez, Sergey Kovalev, Tony Bellew, Chad Dawson, Glen Johnson etc. did when they all competed at light hea...

Ty oogie. I recall hearing it also from a popular older fighter that I can't remember. As a quick aside, I met Emile Griffith at a fund raiser some years ago ago (he bummed a couple smokes off me and we hung out and chatted, and me being a ball-breaker, asked to make sure he wasn't in training befor...

Years ago I believe I heard some respected people in boxing say they felt LH were more dangerous than Heavies, that they were able to hurt you almost equally but were usually faster. Anyone remember this? It may have been someone like a Futch or a Dundee, maybe?

Nice link ty!

I've heard George Foreman say that some fighters generate power from their fists (DelaHoya, among others). I've always taken this to mean the strength in the hand itself, the tightness of the fist on impact, but maybe he was talking about the size of the fist?

I mean I can find video of flyweights brutally KOing each other, how do you tell just based on individual KOs like Walcott? Right, we can't tell really, but I can just look at it and talk about it, y'know? I am not proving anything one way or another, but based on watching, these guys are SO MUCH S...

Hell aside from that, think of how much better the Welterweight division would be if there was no 140 pound weight class? Think of how much better Middleweight would be if there was no 154? Absolutely! And even if there were a super heavy class, how long would it take fanboys to start bragging how ...