Yeah, because Marciano wouldn't get steamrolled by Foreman, right? LOL. I've always said this is a great, great, tight fight. I've never heard anyone say either man ends it in four rounds...until now. LOL. That's the great thing about Boxing on the Net. You can never quite say, "now I've heard...

Joe Frazier was vulnerable? He didn't have the will to overcome trouble? :lol: "In the history of getting hit by Heavy punchers Frazier loses." What is that even supposed to mean. Agree to disagree? Damn straight, that post was pure lunacy. Against Foreman a superior puncher he left that ...

A couple guys who dominated Friday nights for a long time. Griffith IMO was one hell of a champion. But he had trouble with Rodriquez.

I'd appreciate comments and opinions on this match-up between the two.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It was probably Marciano. God knows he fought a slew of scrubs on the way up. Evidently it was the type of competition that proves he would run Joe Frazier straight out of a ring.

lol

I never said Rocky couldn't beat Frazier. Every word you've said applies to marciano too. I can't imagine Rocky avoiding the left Hook and I can't imagine Frazier backing down. How is Marciano going to approach this? It is clear he was able to be hit. It is clear his fighting style was a head on st...

What heavyweight boxing champion, in the calendar year preceding his ascension to the throne, racked up victories in three straight fights against opponents with LOSING records??? No fair peeking at the record book. :shame: (as if that was necessary :OhYes: ) ALI? Great try!!! :TU: WRONG. It was ju...

yancey wrote:What heavyweight boxing champion, in the calendar year preceding his ascension to the throne, racked up victories in three straight fights against opponents with LOSING records???



No fair peeking at the record book.

(as if that was necessary )

ALI?

He never fought Joe Frazier. There's a lot of people he didn't fight. So we're having a hypothetical discussion. How is Rocky prevented from beating Frazier? How does he nullify Rocky? Rocky is going to get hit, but he got hit a lot. Despite getting hit a lot he won quite a few of his fights. When ...

You stated: "With all due respect I do not see anything but one event and another event and another event. I see no connections whatever." Sir Arthur Conan Doyle aka Sherlock Holmes: "The world is full of obvious facts that no person by any chance ever observes." For example: Di...

If he didn't know how, Frazier would be more than happy to teach Marciano how to back up. I don't think Rocky was that quick of a learner. He fought a lot of big hard punchers. Do you remember him backing up? He never fought Joe Frazier. There's a lot of people he didn't fight. So we're having a hy...

It's ironic that you would send me that link, my ancestral background is Indian (and Chinese) and yes my work is heavily influenced by the ‘ancients’ – specifically Egyptian, Indian and Greek but also it combines modern scientific data (my father, by the way, is a former physics professor). I guess...

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:If he didn't know how, Frazier would be more than happy to teach Marciano how to back up.

I don't think Rocky was that quick of a learner. He fought a lot of big hard punchers. Do you remember him backing up?

yancey is right, You can place the Rock anywhere in the top 20 you care to, but anyone who rates him above Frazier is off course without a compass. I think he would have taken care of Frazier quite handily. And that's one good example of why you have been demoted to DEITY SECOND CLASS. Now go....an...

That Schmelling fight. He fought a perfect fight the first time. I recall reading that 'I see's something'. The account I read regarding what he saw was a tendency Louis had with regard to setting himself up to punch. Schmelling felt he was the man to take advantage of it. Regarding the second fight...

Yes Mr. Second God (it looks as though you were posting just as I was - check out the Leonard/Jones Jr. post in case you missed it). By the way, in November of 1988, Leonard fought a LHW match against Don Lalonde [ 10 letters in his name ] – in November of 2008, Jones Jr. fought a LHW match against...

Is that why the rematch never materialised, in your view? Interesting question. Ali almost always gave or wanted rematches. Why didn't he? This is one of those questions that pops up from time to time. Foreman didn't fight again until 1976. He didn't take the loss well. By the time he came back, th...

Yes Mr. Second God (it looks as though you were posting just as I was - check out the Leonard/Jones Jr. post in case you missed it). By the way, in November of 1988, Leonard fought a LHW match against Don Lalonde [ 10 letters in his name ] – in November of 2008, Jones Jr. fought a LHW match against...

You put your finger on a lot of stuff. People tend to look for patterns in the stream of events. Do you see any pattern emerging from this?

Can't agree with your analysis of the second Patterson fight, that he made "hamburger" out of Patterson. Patterson fought his best fight in many years and was frustrating Ali with his peek-a-boo defense before suffering the eye damage in the sixth round that forced the referee to halt the...

BoxBuzz wrote:yancey is right, You can place the Rock anywhere in the top 20 you care to, but anyone who rates him above Frazier is off course without a compass.

I think he would have taken care of Frazier quite handily.

I'd say Zale would be a good match-up with Hopkins, Leonard or Hagler. I admire him quite a bit too. His fights with Graziano were quite spectacular. Graziano was no where close the fighter Zale was, I consider him, Graziano, to be more like Rubin Carter with more fights. But Zale had skills, real s...

Would anyone be interest in seein a boxing card with : Tommy "hitman" Hearns , Jimmy "ringmaster" Paul ' Hilmer kenty . Milton "iceman: McCory : Danny "Mad Dog" Paul.. and others . for a comeback performancee ?? :box: Not me. That would be like going to see the Ro...

You gentleman are being too critical of George Foreman. When Ali employed the rope a dope against Foreman he had the benefit of tactical surprise. That's why it never worked nearly as well in future bouts. His opponents were aware of it and planned their response. I assure you MacArthur wasn't abou...

No, I was just saying that after it happened it looks obvious that Foreman punched himself out and that he did not have to do that. However, at the time it did not seem that way at all. It looked like suicide to take all of that punishment from a brutal puncher like Foreman. A lot of aggressive fig...

Saw that fight, I bought the tickets my son bought the beer. We both hought Hagler won.