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by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:50
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

gilgamesh wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 14:48
vitalyjohnson wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 14:46
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 14:23

:lol: :clap:
Steroids and headbutts. Let's all cheer for "Real" heh heh Deal.
Obvious Troll is Obvious.
He's making fun of Tyson.
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:46
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 14:23
vitalyjohnson wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 12:58 Evander luft weights and do steroids. Evander big like Ray Lewis with heh heh murderous intents.
:lol: :clap:
Steroids and headbutts. Let's all cheer for "Real" heh heh Deal.
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:37
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

If he was 'emaciated' he wouldn't have been able to do 15 rounds. He was too thin. He was clearly a weight class too small. Watch the Pintor fight. The announcer, colorman Danny Lopez and the other commentator address his lack of weight ad nauseum. You're trolling now, aren't you? What are you talk...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:31
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

Evander Holyfield is a greater fighter than Mike Tyson in pound per pound and heavyweight rankings sense. Both are in the top 100 greatest fighters pound per pound ever. The Real Deal is way ahead of him in that sense because he beat Iron Mike twice and also he beat better boxers than Iron Mike. Ir...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:26
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

You used the word 'malnourished' he wasn't - he was naturally slim. Which is why he was successful at bantamweight. You don't seem to know a lot about boxing, eh? Who was the tallest world bantamweight champion in history? Johnny Owen was emaciated. Why did he have the nicknames? His trademark was ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:22
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

Evander Holyfield is a greater fighter than Mike Tyson in pound per pound and heavyweight rankings sense. Both are in the top 100 greatest fighters pound per pound ever. The Real Deal is way ahead of him in that sense because he beat Iron Mike twice and also he beat better boxers than Iron Mike. Ir...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:18
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

Did Ricardo Lopez at 5ft 5ins and 105lbs have a 'malnourished' body. If he was 'malnourished' how did he do 15 rounds against the likes of Paul Ferreri? :shame: Malnourished is hyperbole. Look at the guy -- he was frightfully skinny. People called it out for years. You used the word 'malnourished' ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:17
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

Tyson is a lot of things. He damn sure ain't forgotten. In fact there's a million guys like you who think he's better than guys that beat him inexplicably. I wouldn't insult him by saying he punched like Tank Abbott. Abbott lost more fights than he won. Evander started calling him out in 1989. They...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:15
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Replies: 154
Views: 6248

Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great

LMFAO!!! :lol: Can anyone back the claim that Wlad was a much better heavy than Vit? Looks like they have competive resumes. Vlad fought the best fighter Lennox Lewis between the two and made a good showing of himself. Can't spell the name right. Can't even mention the right brother who fought Lenn...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:13
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

You have never heard of him until last week :lol: He had his style, that you think an extra eight pounds makes him a power puncher is ridiculous. :wave: KO Puncher? Of course not. The weight would have given his body more support under duress and added a little to his punching power. Only that iron...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:11
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

When had he had a bad decision go against him at that point? Literally never. The Byrd and Ruiz decisions came well after that. Bad decision DQ vs Big Daddy. Gilota beat champ Bowe up bad!!!! How was it a bad decision? He low blowed him as many times as I've ever seen somebody low blow a guy. You t...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:04
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

When had he had a bad decision go against him at that point? Literally never. The Byrd and Ruiz decisions came well after that. Bad decision DQ vs Big Daddy. Gilota beat champ Bowe up bad!!!! How was it a bad decision? He low blowed him as many times as I've ever seen somebody low blow a guy. You t...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 14:01
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

That was literally just a case of "I'm really tired. I'm exhausted. I don't wanna do this no more" Remember his trainer trying to will him to continue by forcing the Mouthpiece into his mouth, and he just wouldn't do it. I remember on Legendary Nights the HBO docuseries that trainer said ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:58
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

It turned out Golota was correct in quitting against Tyson. He had suffered a broken orbital bone, a serious concussion and strained disks in his lower back. I think it put him out of boxing for 2 years. And when he quit vs Grant? That was literally just a case of "I'm really tired. I'm exhaus...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:57
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

If Gerry Cooney had fought Mike Weaver instead he won the WBA title Nino Valdes, Joe Baksi, Larry Gains (beat Primo Carnera and KO'd Max Schemeling...) and in the lighter weights, I could be all day naming them Howard Davis, Bernard Taylor (he was mustard ) Johnny Clark, Dave Sands etc etc. Golota ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:53
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

He wouldn't have boxed today, he would have failed the medical. He was a boxer who relied on stamina and volume, he beat some really good lads on his record, Nati, Rodriguez, Fererri and Feeney. He won all domestic and continental honours, he didn't have the punch to win a world title or keep it bu...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:48
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

If Gerry Cooney had fought Mike Weaver instead he won the WBA title Nino Valdes, Joe Baksi, Larry Gains (beat Primo Carnera and KO'd Max Schemeling...) and in the lighter weights, I could be all day naming them Howard Davis, Bernard Taylor (he was mustard ) Johnny Clark, Dave Sands etc etc. Golota ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:42
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

You are on wrong on every count - everything you have said is wrong :doh: His skull was so thin, he wouldn't have got a licence to box if he was active today. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/3025331/Boxing-Johnny-Owens-spirit-lives-on-years-after-his-fatal-fight.html But if he ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:31
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Johnny Owen's weight
Replies: 28
Views: 1410

Re: Johnny Owen's weight

Johnny Owen is an incredible story. He was a man totally dedicated to the sport he loved. You talk about discipline no women no sex diet wow. It has been 40 years now and he will never be forgotten. He was overmatched by Lupe Pintor and was just not in the same league. It is a terrible tragedy what...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 13:14
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Replies: 154
Views: 6248

Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great

- Tried my best to let this thread die a natural death, but just the mention of Vitali or Wlad enough gather the Saad Sacks, Poots, and other likewise emasculated males in a venomous group hugfest. Here were the Boxrec rankings as of September 5th, 2010 while Vitali, Wlad, and David Haye were all p...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 12:58
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

What about Real Deal headbutts? Did you see Rakman head like giant balloon? Tyson top 5 most say? What about Holyfield's headbutts? He got away with 'em didn't he? That's a skill. Tyson was the 3rd best fighter of his own era. I don't think he's Top 10 of all time, but you could make a case for Top...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 12:36
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

:lol: How bout the tons of steroids Real Deal had taken? Mike had a lot of bad circumstances. He is one of the best ever. Mike was champ, age 20. Youngest ever. Then Cus died and Kevin Ronney stopped training him. Teddy Atlas threatened to shoot him with gun. Mike could have been best. He hit like ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 12:32
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

I was mentioning those guys as having a better case than Golota. I wasn't nominating each of them as the best Non Champion. Andrew beat Byrd, Ruiz and Bowe twice. That's 4 big wins over champoons. :salut: He's 0-3-1 in those bouts genius. Though I did believe he deserved the win over Ruiz. Who won ...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 12:26
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Andrew Golota best non-champion?
Replies: 53
Views: 2201

Re: Andrew Golota best non-champion?

How is Golota better than Shavers, Tua or Langford? What accolades does he have to his credit to make that case? I was talking about the others you mentioned. Golota wasn't mentioned there by you. I was mentioning those guys as having a better case than Golota. I wasn't nominating each of them as t...
by vitalyjohnson
07 Nov 2020, 12:23
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield
Replies: 100
Views: 3785

Re: Mike Tyson better than Holyfield

Sounds about right. However, it's tough to predict the Douglas bout in this case just acknowledging how Douglas looked that night actually. Douglas knocked out by long count! Review fight! :TU: :lol: How bout the tons of steroids Real Deal had taken? Mike had a lot of bad circumstances. He is one o...