Davey Moore against Roberto Duran, that ref should have been banned from ever refing again after that fight.

Chavez was indeed a great champion , but he was also a poor loser Frank B. Yes, I agree. He whined like a baby if he didn't get his own way. He basically quit against Randall and they still let him have the win. :o I saw the second fight with Randall its unfair to say he quit, the reason for him no...

But that Duran in Montreal against Leonard was unforgettable. I do not think no one would hve beaten him that Duran. Sugar Ray would have beat Duran in Motreal if he would have fought his fight like he did the second time around and had not gotten drawn into a machismo contest. When Duran had somet...

Seamus, to try to say that the Whitaker that faced Chavez would have beat Ray Leonard is absolutely absurd. Pernell never was a real Welter, not close. Leonard would have bulled him in 3-4 rds, as would any true Welter in history...Whitaker is beautiful to watch, but let's be honest. Julio great as...

I completely AGREE!!! :TU: :TU: :TU: I have to disagree, Chavez was not a one punch knockout puncher and he was no welterweight, he left his punching power and strength back at junior welterweight and was even better and stronger at lightweight. I had Chavez beating Whitaker that night, you can't w...

He may be a little overrated, but I think the whole bottle theory is a joke. I don't care what it was, it didn't win the fight for Pryor. Arguello wilted and got hit with a ton of shots. End of story. There was a lot of good information in Jaclem's post, but I saw the DuJuan Johnson fight and while...

Overall career wise, Chavez had seen better days, but in all honesty the guy who lost to Whitaker that night in my opinion would still have destroyed Randall, DeLaHoya, Tszyu or Gonzalez. Julio Cesar Chavez was probably more motivated for that fight than any other of his career, just watch the way ...

I have seen footage of gentle Jim Corbett fighting and this guy was like watching a "dandy" running around the ring, I don't care if you put him in todays arena and gave him the best training and nutrition he was usless, to say that Sullivan was way past it when they fought has to be true ...

John L. Sullivan was good for his time and that was it, he would have not even been a very good sparing partner for heavy's of the last 80 years. Jack Johnson would have beaten him silly, as would have Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey as well as Gene Tunney would have to. Have any of you ever seen any live f...

It all depends on the ring size, 20' or larger Ali wins, the smaller the ring square footage size the better chance Marciano has of closing the distance.

cheers M.O.

Whittaker-Ramirez... Everyone mentions the Chavez figth but this was worse. My Grandparents claim Bugner's voctory over Henry Cooper was a robbery but I have only seen highlights and know how popular Henry was so I'm not sure if to believe them. I had Ramirez winning that fight, you can't win runni...

Very tough to call. I would say Chavez, simply because he has never done a No Mas! Did you see his second fight with Oscar Dela Hoya? Why do you pin heads keep bringing that up anyways? :evil: Is that all you have to go on, don't you look at records, accomplishments? Dam no one did as much as Duran...

Foreman crushses Tyson in 1 or 2 rounds just like Frazier. Foreman was an incredibly strong man, and he could punch like no one else since. One uppercut, one clip on Tysons chin and lights out for him, Tyson don't have the chin (Foremen did), and he ducked and weaved like Frazier and we all know wha...

It's almost humorous the way Duran fans argue there man's superiority over Sugar Ray Leonard, while at the same time insisting that 2 out of there 3 bouts be dismissed from consideration. Plain and simple Duran quit in the second fight because he was getting humiliated. Then in Leonard-Duran III I ...

It's almost humorous the way Duran fans argue there man's superiority over Sugar Ray Leonard, while at the same time insisting that 2 out of there 3 bouts be dismissed from consideration. Plain and simple Duran quit in the second fight because he was getting humiliated. Then in Leonard-Duran III I ...

Duran reputedly had the shits really badly before the fight. Leonard fought a dumb fight against Duran first time round, going toe to toe after Duran insulted his wife. Leonard boxerd clever second time round literally and metaphorically, by insisting on a quick rematch when he heard Duran was fat ...

The stamina of John L Sullivan???

Who are you kidding!

John L Sullivan would'nt last one round with the greats of the last 50 years! He usto drink whiskey as part of his training.

cheers M.O.

I saw this fight live on a closed circuit venue in my city Vancouver, Canada, the place was very noisy so I wasn't influenced by the commentators. I was a huge Duran fan, and was in Durans corner (in spirit) during all the fights of his that I witnessed, and this one was no exception. I thought Hagl...

The wildest come from behind knockout that I can think of is when Mike Weaver knocked out John Tate to win the heavyweight title with like seconds left in the fight. Comming from so far behind, to slowly start taking over in the last few rounds pounding Tate to the body and slowly taking Tate apart ...

Chavez and Taylor was alot closer of a fight than you seem to figure. Taylor flurried alot, but alot of the punches were either blocked or missed their mark. Chavez punch accuracy percentage in those days was very high. I thought the fight was close though I still thought that Taylor was ahead near ...

Yeah, for me Chavez is the best 130lb in history. Check out his fight with Edwin Rosario, Chavez gave him a sytematic beating. Chavez would have beaten Nelson by late stoppage at 130. Take nothing away from Nelson, he was great. Chavez and Rosario fought at 135lbs, for Rosarios lightweight title. I...

As far as Ali/Berbick goes, Ali was 40 & came in heavy rather than nearly killing himself like he did before the Holmes fight where he took bad medical advice from a cowboy doctor who prescribed him medicine that drained his body of power & energy among other things. The fight was arranged ...

Revporl Still waiting for you to back up your statement about these two classic fighters, in case you forgot Duran and Hagler!
one dimensional?

cheers M.O.[/b]

I can't see Gene Fullmer, Carmen Basilio or Marcel Cerdan being higher than Tony Zale. He was known as the man of steel, and I know he came from Pittsburgh but he was still one tough guy, did you ever see the body punch he landed on Rocky Graziano right before the follow up left hook that knocked hi...

[quote="revporl"]Leonard was stupid in the first fight, he fought Durans fight as though he felt that he had to prove himself the harder, rather than boxing and moving as he should have done. The second fight showed the diffence in styles, and the superiority of SRL's skills, Duran was a o...