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by CM
04 May 2005, 15:43
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: What happens if Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs. Emile Griffith?
Replies: 12
Views: 1071

Sure, anybody can get caught cold, and we all know that A beats B, B beats C, does NOT mean A will beat C, but it did make the Tiger fights more of an upset, which is all I was saying. It's funny. Luis Manuel or Luis Rodriguez as he's better known in the English speaking world overall did better wit...
by CM
04 May 2005, 15:37
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson Oh yes Mike Tyson.
Replies: 251
Views: 10739

Ali is in a league of his own in this respect. Not just in boxing. In all sports. I'm sorry but nobody else is even close. Not worldwide.
by CM
04 May 2005, 15:32
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: George Foreman (1973) -v- Mike Tyson
Replies: 33
Views: 1601

Right. Styles make fights and the bob and weave guys never bothered George a bit, especially the short ones. Somehow his long punches always seemed to catch them just as they were coming into them. I strongly disagree with the guy who suggested that Tyson had a better chin than Frazier, but there's ...
by CM
04 May 2005, 13:49
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Aaron Pryor vs. Ray Leonard at 144
Replies: 42
Views: 1313

At 47, sure.
by CM
04 May 2005, 13:46
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: What happens if Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs. Emile Griffith?
Replies: 12
Views: 1071

Then again, Emile was a guy who could upset the applecart at any given time in his prime. He should never have been able to beat Dick Tiger, a great middleweight like Hagler, but he did, twice. It was even more surprising coming after Emile's disastrous one round KO loss to Hurricane Carter and Tige...
by CM
04 May 2005, 01:46
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Who is England's Greatest Fighter and why???
Replies: 33
Views: 1985

I'll throw another name into the hat and this one's from way back in the London Prize Ring days: Daniel Mendoza, the Spanish/British Jew from Whitechapel, who was the best fighter of his time despite only being a junior middleweight by today's standards. He may have been the first scientific boxer a...
by CM
04 May 2005, 01:31
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Aaron Pryor vs. Ray Leonard at 144
Replies: 42
Views: 1313

Depends. Does Panama Lewis have the special bottle he mixed? Seriously peak vs. peak 144 is kind of a tossup. Bottle or no bottle the Pryor who beat Arguello twice was something from Mars. Leonard really didn't have three pounds to lose at his peak and might have been drained by drying down and Pryo...
by CM
03 May 2005, 14:40
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Mike Tyson Oh yes Mike Tyson.
Replies: 251
Views: 10739

Tyson's speed and power were undeniable and at his peak, when he had Cus and even Kevin Rooney after Cus passed to program him correctly, he was like a wrecking machine---the key word there being 'machine'. That was his strength AND his weakness---once Cus was gone and he fired Kevin, he was on his ...
by CM
03 May 2005, 11:11
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Joe Frazier versus a wrestler?
Replies: 28
Views: 3949

Pro wrestling journalist Dave Meltzer says Colon-Frazier did happen, but he's sketchy on the details: I don't know details, but know that it happened. I thought it was in Puerto Rico. (Wrestling promotor Jim) Crockett (Jr.) was planning after Starrcade 84 (an early wrestling PPV) to do Dusty (Rhodes...
by CM
03 May 2005, 10:42
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Does John Ruiz Belongs in the All-Time Heavyweight 100???
Replies: 16
Views: 1197

Top 100? Not by a long shot. Ruiz would have been a club fighter in most eras.
by CM
03 May 2005, 10:40
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: What happens if Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs. Emile Griffith?
Replies: 12
Views: 1071

If they had fought in real time Hagler would have killed him. In their primes? Not all that different. Well, Hagler may not have 'killed' him but I would pick Hagler to beat him every time. Emile's prime was at welterweight. He was a great fighter but Hagler was a great MIDDLEWEIGHT.
by CM
03 May 2005, 10:24
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Joe Frazier versus a wrestler?
Replies: 28
Views: 3949

I did come across another mixed match-JerseyJoe Walcott versus Nature Boy Buddy Rogers on October 7, 1959 at The Forum in Montreal Canada. I don't have a result for this match. Walcott lost both of his matches with Rogers and both of his matches with Thesz. Also, two of Achie Moore's KO victims are...
by CM
03 May 2005, 10:05
Forum: Boxing History
Topic: Joe Frazier versus a wrestler?
Replies: 28
Views: 3949

We're kinda talking apples and oranges here. As a rule of thumb, any match between a boxer and a professional wrestler that takes place on a professional wrestling card is worked. This includes the Thesz and Rogers vs. Walcott matches (he did two with each of them---Thesz could really wrestle, but R...