Thoughts on any current fighter who you thought was utter trash but come around to admit that he's good fighter. I'll start and say Tevin Farmer thought he wasn't worth mentioning to fight some of the bigger names at 130 but he skill and durability is much better than I thought even though his resu...

Golovkin will whoop him. That's why Munguia will remain protected. Idk about that man. I'd favor GGG in the fight but I think it would be competitive. But I do agree on Mungia remaining protected at least until Oscar knows GGG is past it to the point he knows Mungia can beat him, if Golovkin doesn'...

All the Floyd vs Jose Luis Castillo posts. The fight is actually somewhat of a myth manufactured by HBO. I was like most other fans and thought Floyd lost the first fight as well due to HBO commentators and unofficial scoring. Go to youtube and watch the first Mayweather-Castillo fight on Top Rank'...

All the Floyd vs Jose Luis Castillo posts. The fight is actually somewhat of a myth manufactured by HBO. I was like most other fans and thought Floyd lost the first fight as well due to HBO commentators and unofficial scoring. Go to youtube and watch the first Mayweather-Castillo fight on Top Rank's...

marvelous marv wrote: ↑27 Sep 2020, 05:10 I could see someone from 154 going up to fight Jermall Charlo, like Jarrett Hurd or Lara.

For that to happen they'd have to get past his brother first IMO.

8-4 is the max possible score for Charlo. I had it 7-5. But, yes, Charlo improved. That was his first really big test. I expected him to fail it, but he managed to pass it. Think Jacobs or GGG will be stepping in with him before retirement? Other guys think Canelo won't go back to 160 to fight him ...

how SD took those blows and that damage and came back to win rounds...?! :salut: 10-2 Charlo for me - he outclassed Sergey better than the other 2. Seriously impressive tonight. :clap: I had it 8-4 for Charlo & I definitely agree that Jermall's win over Sergey was more convincing than GGG's or ...

Peter Mcneely could beat all three of them. At the same time.

Vargas was killing himself to get down to 147. Why he lost so many at that weight. He will be in prime form and probably run the division at 160. No clue why were even wasting our time talking Charlo Canelo etc. All will soon be irrelevant once Jesse cleans the division or chases them off to other ...

Vargas was killing himself to get down to 147. Why he lost so many at that weight. He will be in prime form and probably run the division at 160. No clue why were even wasting our time talking Charlo Canelo etc. All will soon be irrelevant once Jesse cleans the division or chases them off to other d...

Those are the facts and perhaps why Canelo has had persist issue with golden boy since this time. Why? Because there are no money fights left or because you believe he wanted the fight and Oscar wouldn't let him? I feel like he was persuaded not to fight, yes. I believe he would have fought Golovki...

Canelo isnt a ducker, look at who he's fought Not frequently no I'll give him that. But 2015-2016, when GGG was knocking everybody out and Canelo vacated his WBC MW title was about as blatant as it gets. Him and Oscar definitely carefully timed until they saw GGG was just past it. Fought Khan at 15...

Let's see, Canelo GGG 3 against old GGG, who else has good name recognition but is over the hill that Canelo can fight? Not even sure if Canelo wants to wait a few years unless it's a farewell passing of the torch type fight since he'll be the older man. I don’t think GGG3 is going to happen. He wa...

Canelo isnt a ducker, look at who he's fought Not frequently no I'll give him that. But 2015-2016, when GGG was knocking everybody out and Canelo vacated his WBC MW title was about as blatant as it gets. Him and Oscar definitely carefully timed until they saw GGG was just past it. Fought Khan at 15...

I believe Canelo won't have too many problems with him. Yea. Guess I'd reckon if a past prime GGG can beat the same guy that Charlo just beat. And an almost prime GGG was very close with Canelo. (thought I thought GGG edged it.) By that logic Canelo (who is about the same form if not a little bette...

Well seeing how close Derv fought Jacobs and GGG I thought any type of win for Charlo would solidify his place in the conversation for top MW. Who else is there for him to fight while fights with the big name guys like GGG Canelo etc. marinates? What's up with Andrade? He's held a belt for a minute ...

Let's see, Canelo GGG 3 against old GGG, who else has good name recognition but is over the hill that Canelo can fight? Not even sure if Canelo wants to wait a few years unless it's a farewell passing of the torch type fight since he'll be the older man.

Looks like it'll be time for Canelo to decide "he doesn't need a belt." and vacate his WBA 160 strap if Mall becomes his mandatory.

Probably a little premature but how does anyone think hed do against Bud? I see he's 5'10" which is tall for 140. Both are with TR. Both are lanky southpaws who can hit.

The price seems exorbitant but it's not the real problem. The real problem is that PBC has been putting mostly trash on Fox and Showtime and then asking people to pony up PPV money for every fight of any magnitude whatsoever. For real. Lomachenko is without an argument a far better p4p and probably...

I'm gonna repeat this: Someone like Wilder or Usyk will be CW champion while a far less skilled guy like Breazeale will be HW champion and that would be a travesty. Did I mention every decade has examples of smaller HWs <225 beating much bigger decent HWs. :lol: How would Brazeale be champion? Didn...

What's that got to do with what I said? I said he'd represent the most interesting challenge aside from Wilder or Joshua, and I'm right about that. Whether or not he'd score a KO doesn't matter. Yea you're right he does. At this specific point in time. As in, there aren't any other bigger guys at t...

Hell another thing. Look at the here and now. Don't even gotta go into the past for this. Fury is the Boss of the division right? He's already beaten Wilder, the big dream fight everyone wants now is Fury vs Joshua. Now let's just say he beats Joshua. Aside from rematches with Wilder and Joshua. Wh...

The Chris Byrd thread reminded me of yet another example of where a smaller man beat much bigger men. These critics were acting like all we had was Dempsey-Willard. :OhYes: No, there are examples in every decade. Deontay Wilder knocked out Gerald Washington's big ass not to terribly long ago :lol: ...

The Chris Byrd thread reminded me of yet another example of where a smaller man beat much bigger men. These critics were acting like all we had was Dempsey-Willard. :OhYes: No, there are examples in every decade. Deontay Wilder knocked out Gerald Washington's big ass not to terribly long ago :lol: ...