Miller probably would have escaped the beating were he able to land inside the ring.. He expected to applauded and cheered by the crowd for his daring before he was arrested.. He knew he was going to be fined and jailed but didn't expect the beating.. Perhaps he believed he could make money off the ...

The Klistschko Brothers.... Wladimir retired at the age of 41 after fighting an ATG fight with Anthony Joshua... Even though that fight was a loss it was a career effort -- couldn't have been a better ending. Vitali ended his career at the age of 41, after winning his last 13 fights in a row, includ...

Toney didn't have a chance in Hell... and he wasn't interested... It's like Canelo -- all talk and no follow through.

At least Mike Tyson was honest about not wanting to fight the K Bros.. "They're too big for me." ... I note that Toney and Tyson didn't fight. A better matchup

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 12:03 Ward vs. Kovalev II

Didn't score a knockdown... Wasn't a legal punch... And you have no video for obvious reasons.

I go with Alp's assessment, it best explains Ali's actions at the end of the fight. Ali was truly exhausted but probably could/would have finished the fight; but like a marathon runner when it was over he was done. As far as Ali's later remarks, his claim of 'near death' and all that stuff about al...

Actually almost everyone he fought was bigger than him. Who except Foreman won? Everyone he fought bigger??? WTF??? :witzend: Were the following opponents bigger than Joe? Quarry? No.... Ellis? Nah... Bob Foster? Nope.... Zyglewitz? HELL no.... Conner? negative.... Bonavena? A similar size. Distrib...

Old-N-Moldie, You're a demented, deluded, shitt-for-brains keyboard warrior who has nothing to add to the forum except your endless rants against God, religion, and anyone who disagrees with your worthless, warped views.

He was a white, good looking, intelligent, well spoken Italian-American from New York. He was in a position and could have coasted to a title shot ala Gerry Cooney and made a chunk of money.. . . .the name of the game is money. He was white, well spoken, and nice looking all right… He wasn’t very i...

Better the butt than the mutt... Biting parts of ears off is a certain DQ... Except for Mills Lane... "I'm taking 2-points and we'll see if you can be good."

Golata's boxing was pretty sharp..... his training was better than he was. Golata's problem wasn't that his boxing was not sharp.....during moments of focus it was all pretty much there. Golata's problem was that HE was not the sharpest crayon in the box.....an understatement actually. One of the v...

It beats the HELL out of you and Chuck. Charley Burley wasn't worth watching??? Yet he knocked Archie Moore down 4 times and boxed the piss out of him in masterful fashion? .... Would you rather watch a crude swinger who doesn't know what he's doing? What little of Burley there is on tape he was a p...

handsofstone wrote: ↑15 May 2018, 08:19

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑15 May 2018, 08:16 I have the complete fight so it definitely exists.

Strange that it wouldn't be available on youtube by now, gutted

A lot of people are... Could you upload the fight to YouTube so the rest of us can view it?

Charley Burley wasn't worth watching??? Yet he knocked Archie Moore down 4 times and boxed the piss out of him in masterful fashion? .... Would you rather watch a crude swinger who doesn't know what he's doing? What little of Burley there is on tape he was a pleasure to watch... Maybe he needed a pu...

I thought of a great example. Floyd Mayweather Jr. while he was never naturally a 154 pounder he did win 3 fights at the weight class, and I'm sure would be favored over quite a few names at that weight class. One guy that I'm all, but certain could've defeated him though he's not anywhere near his...

Thanks. My favorite Welsh boxer was Howard Winstone. What a fighter! He just had the bad luck to run into the great Vicente Saldivar 3 times. Eventually, he became WBC World Featherweight Champion, though. Saldivar handled Winstone with ease... The first two fights were very close, razor-thin decis...

Leonard didn't have anything to stop Spence with... Spence is too big, tough, and powerful... No Tommy Hearns chin is infecting this savage young thug.. Errol hasn't shown a single weakness.. Leonard showed us a ton of problems. Leonard got knocked on his can by 3rd rate Welterweight Kevin Howard, ...

If Liston was born in 1932 that would make him 38 when he died... I don't believe that... The 1940 census has him as 10 years old supposedly,,,, I don't believe that either... In the Martin and Wepner fights he had the appearance of a real old guy.

Leonard didn't have anything to stop Spence with... Spence is too big, tough, and powerful... No Tommy Hearns chin is infecting this savage young thug.. Errol hasn't shown a single weakness.. Leonard showed us a ton of problems. Leonard got knocked on his can by 3rd rate Welterweight Kevin Howard, -...

There were no personalities like Sugar Ray Leonard of course... Leonard got so much attention that he made his era. I often wonder how big a fight between Michael Nunn and Sugar Ray Leonard would have been if Leonard fought Nunn instead of fighting Terry Norris... Fighting Leonard would have shut ou...

I doubt it.... Linares looked big. He looked freakin' huge. Linares was the biggest looking Lightweight since Terence Crawford... How the Hell did Crawford make Lightweight weighing 153.. He looked like a freakin' Middleweight stepping into the ring.. Beltran gaped at him.. I was a Heavyweight and I...

Michael Nunn got UNLUCKY against James Toney -- when he was the favorite to retain his pound-for-pound #1 status... Nunn was 36-0 when he was canned by Toney.... Pretty damned sweet power shots to rip down such a specimen. That was the only stoppage loss of Nunn's career.. Nunn fought for a Light H...

Michael Nunn got UNLUCKY against James Toney -- when he was the favorite to retain his pound-for-pound #1 status... Nunn was 36-0 when he was canned by Toney.... Pretty damned sweet power shots to rip down such a specimen. That was the only stoppage loss of Nunn's career.. Nunn fought for a Light He...

I had read (somewhere) that Lennox Lewis had collapsed in his dressing room shortly after his fight with Mavrovic. Anyone know more about this ? Collapse wouldn't be the right word. Lewis was up on his toes in the last 3 rounds bouncing, dancing, and throwing a lot of punches... He won in lopsided ...

Monzon would crush Toney. Toney's cutsie head movement wouldn't help him against a very accurate puncher like Carlos. Please don't bring up...DOH!...Eubank... Toney didn't use "cutsie" head movement.. Cutsie head movement is for guys like Pazienza... Toney used an ATG masterful defense an...

I see a lot of fights between 90's Middleweight Champions who were ATG Middleweights... Not too much from the 70's.