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- 05 Sep 2024, 16:31
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
Re: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
What a joke. You just deleted it within the last 24 hours so you know exactly which post Im talking about. Its the same post you deleted my comment on for doing nothing more than repeating the facts exactly as the ringside observers stated them. Ha! Way to stand behind your work LOL. I've only post...
- 05 Sep 2024, 16:07
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
- 05 Sep 2024, 16:03
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
Re: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
Maybe we should compare how YOU describe the fight on facebook with accounts written by ringside observers…. Fair enough. Like you, I stand by my work and anyone, you included, can come right here and show me which sources Ive misquoted or left out or like in your case which events Ive made up or e...
- 05 Sep 2024, 15:13
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
Re: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
Ah yes, the days when a certain author threatned to sue boxrec and its moderators :bag: I have a devastating Foreword written by Ray Mancini. I have the backing and repeated public support, of both former editor-in-chief of Ring Magazine, Nigel Collins, former senior writer for The Ring magazine an...
- 05 Sep 2024, 14:32
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
Re: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
If this anything like inaccurate posts about the fight you put on facebook and then deleted any comments disagreeing with you then Ill pass and would recommend anyone else interested in reading the facts do so too. They wont be found here. You might want to refer back to your own posts made during ...
- 04 Sep 2024, 23:39
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
- 03 Sep 2024, 16:24
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
Re: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
was frankie a relative of yours? I interviewed Frank's nieces in person and over the phone. They were 2 of 7 children of baseballer Dolph Camilli, Frank's brother. They were/are the keepers of dozens of boxes of memorabilia. I was given access to family videos and photo albums, many images of which...
- 03 Sep 2024, 14:54
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
- Replies: 34
- Views: 6927
New Book: Baer-Campbell fight / Campbell bio
Available on Amazon Worldwide at https://a.co/d/gq4Zad1 "Then The World Moved On: The Brutal Truth Behind the Baer–Campbell Fight" by Catherine Johnson, knocks boxing history on its cauliflowered ear, with the most painstakingly researched and scrupulously detailed book ever written about ...
- 27 Feb 2023, 19:16
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Video of Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling I on February 13th, 1934 ??
- Replies: 4
- Views: 346
Re: Video of Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling I on February 13th, 1934 ??
That would be interesting to see. Hamas was an interesting guy. Odd that he seems to be almost forgotton. He came across my radar in newspaper articles from a few months after Frankie Campbell was killed. Evidently FCs handlers Cal Working and Tom Maloney were watching Hamas in the ring. The report...
- 27 Feb 2023, 19:11
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Video of Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling I on February 13th, 1934 ??
- Replies: 4
- Views: 346
Re: Video of Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling I on February 13th, 1934 ??
I have been a collector for 40 years, but I have never seen that fight on any collectors list. Thanks for your reply. I know how to dig pretty deep into records and there's barely a mention of this fight outside of the newspaper articles. Its a shame because it sure sounds like he dominated Schmeli...
- 22 Feb 2023, 21:09
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Classic American West Coast Boxing
- Replies: 44882
- Views: 2366161
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Name the people behind Baer who were devious and what do you mean by gravy train His second manager Ancil Hoffman bragged to a reporter that he had local SF politicians and pols at the Capitol who would back him no matter what shadiness he engaged him. That he didn't report to or have to follow the...
- 21 Feb 2023, 22:20
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Video of Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling I on February 13th, 1934 ??
- Replies: 4
- Views: 346
Video of Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling I on February 13th, 1934 ??
Does video of the FIRST Steve Hamas vs Max Schmeling bout on February 13th, 1934 exist ?? I can find the rematch but not the original.
Thanks, Cat
Thanks, Cat
- 21 Feb 2023, 22:17
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Classic American West Coast Boxing
- Replies: 44882
- Views: 2366161
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
I always liked Ron Howard.He was Opie Taylor and then was in that nostalgic flick "American Graffiti" that ran into that TV series "Happy Days" and then he branched out directing movies.He wasn't Hitchcock but he was all right.But he blew it big time when he directed "Cinde...
- 03 Jan 2023, 20:52
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early History of Olympic Auditorium Los Angeles CA
- Replies: 3
- Views: 690
Re: Early History of Olympic Auditorium Los Angeles CA
Being so close to Hollywood ,Did the inside of the Olympic Auditorium ever appear in any old films ? I know Raging Bull, Ali and Rocky included scenes at the Olympic but according to this there were FORTY films which had scenes in and around the Grand Olympic ! https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?lo...
- 02 Jan 2023, 22:25
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early History of Olympic Auditorium Los Angeles CA
- Replies: 3
- Views: 690
Early History of Olympic Auditorium Los Angeles CA
Hey Gents As part of a chapter in my book I researched the origins of the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles, CA. Thought I'd share what I discovered, as it's a fascinating time capsule of the months leading up to the Grand Opening in 1925. Interesting side note: The mural of Jack Dempsey over the fr...
- 02 Jan 2023, 22:16
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Venues & Clubs of the Past
- Replies: 109
- Views: 136405
Re: Venues & Clubs of the Past
Thanks !! I actually have that saved as a photo. Isn't it that a fantastic slice of history for the era ? I'm fascinated to track the to evolution of SF area boxing as it evolved in the early part of the 20th century !
Cat
Cat
- 01 Jan 2023, 21:46
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Boxers who were known to be on "Drugs" (during their pro career)
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1228
Re: Boxers who were known to be on "Drugs" (during their pro career)
In the first half of the 20th century, rudimentary performance-enhancing drugs were used by corner men on their fighters, either before a fight or in the one-minute rest period between rounds. State Boxing Commissions publicly stated the use of stimulants was strictly a personal decision between the...
- 01 Jan 2023, 21:18
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
- Replies: 8
- Views: 413
Re: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
Fewer and fewer states were using referees as the sole arbitrators in decisions by the early 1940s, so that may have been the catalyst. Jack Hurley, the tremendous all-around boxing man, believed that the referees had a far better view of the action than judges do. Referees are constantly moving ar...
- 01 Jan 2023, 21:11
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
- Replies: 8
- Views: 413
Re: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
To answer your question, "Was Dempsey just the promoter or was he also referee for Baer-Uzcudun in Reno ? I'm sure conflict of interest wasn't necessarily a thing then." Dempsey was the promoter and referee of the fight. It gets better. He was also a friend of Baer's and actually trained ...
- 01 Jan 2023, 15:49
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Boxers With Interesting Life Stories.
- Replies: 52
- Views: 7323
Re: Boxers With Interesting Life Stories.
I always find it fascinating that before his death in 1930, Frankie Campbell was a baseball player with the SF Independent League, then boxed and played baseball during his first few fights, then just boxing, then just baseball with the PCL, then boxing largely in LA, until death at 26.
- 01 Jan 2023, 15:43
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Venues & Clubs of the Past
- Replies: 109
- Views: 136405
Re: Venues & Clubs of the Past
San Francisco boxing venues info: Association Club 1905-1923 (Al Young closed to lease National Hall in 1923) National Hall was 1923 to 1940 (with owner Al Young's death) old Dreamland Rink 1906-1927 & new Dreamland Pavilion/Auditorium 1928-1938, then it became Winterland Ice Arena & Bill Gr...
- 01 Jan 2023, 15:30
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
- Replies: 8
- Views: 413
Re: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
In California, I believe that the big turning point for having referee/judges combos instead of having the referee as being the sole arbitrator in rendering decisions was during the early 1940s. Relatively few states had referees being the sole arbitrators by that time. I believe that the state of ...
- 01 Jan 2023, 15:24
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
- Replies: 8
- Views: 413
Re: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
Don't know how much this helps, but I thought I would give this a crack:s. It wasn't seemless transition from newspaper decisions (actually no-decisions), to referee (as sole judge I think you mean), to 3 judges. James Jeffries won a decision over Tom Sharkey in San Franciso all the back in 1898. T...
- 30 Dec 2022, 23:06
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Differences of California boxing laws 1899 vs 1914
- Replies: 0
- Views: 541
Differences of California boxing laws 1899 vs 1914
Was doing research for several paragraphs on the history of the Four-Round Era in CA and came across this wonderful, convenient timeline from BoxRec. https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/USA:_California_Laws If I'm not mistaken, at it's most basic, both the 1899 AND the 1914 "now it's illegal"...
- 30 Dec 2022, 22:55
- Forum: Boxing History
- Topic: Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
- Replies: 8
- Views: 413
Early 20th Century evolution of decisions in CA: by paper, by ref, by judges
I've spent an inordinate amount of time on newspaper subscriptions and googling, can't find a definitive answer, and hoping you gents can help please. I'm trying to determine, for state of California, the date or even year of when one referee being the decision maker in a bout, gave way to a referee...