Is he the Last White American pound per pound all-time great boxer? It's a good question. For me it has to be a solid NO . I haven't read all of the thread, I only skimmed... But Joey G was mentioned, I think that is a fair shout. Off the top of my head - the first name that came to mind was Tommy ...

And no one needs to feel bad for Usyk. He hadn’t a clue what Josh was ranting about anyway, he’s king of the world, and one of the best days of his life no doubt. Usyk's English may not be the best, but I'm sure that he got the gist of it. AJ being a bad loser and talking about having a weekend sti...

... Is Fury back yet?

Some people are just best kept away from microphones altogether. Certainly if that's the way that boxing has him mentally and emotionally, he might be better off just walking away. He's achieved a hell of a lot over the past decade and he'll never be skint... But undoubtedly the man is struggling t...

3. Telling Usyk that he has skills and that Usyk is not stronger than him, then questioning the man's victory, then walking away and not giving the man a chance to speak to him and reason with him. Regarding 3, I thought that was odd and having heard it a few times I think we missed Usyk off camera...

However none of us know what it's like to be him at that level and all eyes on you. The stress and disappointed must have been immense. Plus as others said he might've been slightly concussed. On the mic he praised Usyk but maybe not the time to do it but I wouldn't kick him when he is down as it w...

AJ did himself no favours whatsoever. He was completely all over the place emotionally and the true AJ came out. He showed more than a little amount of arrogance and ignorance... And I would make 5 quick points on it: 1. Becoming aggressive and wanting to confront Usyk before Chisora and others held...

"I'm not 14 stone so I can't throw combinations like rocky marciano" Who wanted him to throw punches liek a champion from the 50's? He is 70 plus years ahead of marciano Funny thing is, I'm a massive Marciano fan... And I don't ever remember people classifying The Rock as a great combinat...

"Current scene?" hmmm - just off the top of my head - Fury vs Wilder 3... AJ vs Ruiz 1... Chisora vs Whyte 2

Lineal hasn’t always been there. There was a period where there was one champion so it’s indisputable who the champ was then Yes, there was indeed - but to get back to that One Champion era you have to go further back than what you would think. There is a perception that the belts fractured with Al...

Much ado about nothing... I like Tyson... But he'll be back...

Khan / Brook for me...

People forget how massive that fight was going into it, people were talking about having 2 fights, or even a 3=fight series depending on how they played out...
But because of how one sided the bout was, it takes the shine off it.

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Apr 2022, 19:37The Leo belt situation has been a shambles.

It has indeed. I thought that Santa Cruz had already indicated that he wanted to continue his career at Super Feather?

I like Benn... But I really wish that he didn't take this fight.... Eubank is just too big for him and I can see Connor getting stopped...

I picked Parker by decision. Surprised the poll isn't closer... Parker is a big rough old boy, he's a good fighter and he can take the big shots, because he's went the distance with Ruiz, AJ, Whyte and Chisora (x2)... And he has the experience of swimming in the deep water with the sharks... More th...

This current version of Fury would KO Del Boy... What he did to Whyte was scary stuff...
But who actually wants to see this fight?

I'll ring the bell with Laszlo Papp . I don't think that I need to say much as everything has been said about him before. A truly class act and I think - for the most part- it is generally accepted these days that he was one of the best fighters in the world at Middleweight in the early to mid sixti...

A thread for those men who did not manage to win a World Championship, but were good enough too. So, two things: 1, The poster above you mentioned a fighter - you have to make a case against that said fighter in any terms that you so wish. 2. And you have to select a fighter and make a case why you ...

How Can Fury Call Himself An ATG Heavyweight When He’s Not Even The Greatest Heavyweight Now???? Anyone with a bit of sense recognises that Tyson is The Number One right now, he just is. Everyone is mentioning Usyk as the next fight they want to see him take, I do too... But if he has retired for g...

I'm glad to see MTK being closed for business, I hope that it is for good... The organisation "sports washed" Kinahan drug money. Boxing doesn't need them...

gregregegg wrote: ↑03 May 2022, 07:49I thought she lost to someone a couple of weight classes bellow her.. so na, im sticking with it, horrificaly overated. Good, but overated.

"horrifically overrated" (yes, that's how you spell them) but still good enough to beat your girl.

Is Katie taylor the most overrated boxer of all time? People have her in the womens goat conversation, but why? You have to put her in the conversation now... (i still think serrano will win). This aged well... Do you have the grace and self-respect to admit that you got it wrong? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sam was a great fighter, but HW was not his best weight. There is a massive physical difference here. Vitali is/was the best Klitchsko brother in my book - I think you have to give it to Vitali...

It's ridiculous to bring up Marty Marshall. Why not bring up how he beat Marshall twice? He later beat a much higher calibre of opposition. And Leotis Martin? Liston was 40!! I woukd tend to say that it's ridiculous to build a fighter up as invincible when he was already defeated by a limited fight...

p4p1 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2020, 06:49who beats Liston?

Muhammad Ali, Leotis Martin and... Marty Marshall.... Liston was a big, strong man who was tough, could hit hard and had a threatening demeanour...

BUT - he was not this invincible beast that Ali fans make him out to be....