I have to give Quarry the nod in the 2nd fight. Those 2 knockdowns decided a close fight. Floyd won the first Quarry fight handily. That draw was a worse decision than the one against Ellis. I noticed you scored no rounds even vs. Ellis, Kym. I might have called 3 or 4 even, & obviously Valan ga...

Liston was not the puncher he once was by this time. I like Ellis by decision or late stoppage. They say punching power is the last to go. Sonny was close to the end. You still had to be a cut above to beat him though, which Ellis was. I wonder if Floyd could have handled him by this stage? Any thou...

My biggest objection is Jeffries. Jeffries would have taken both Liston & Tyson into the championship rounds & licked both, if they didn't lick themselves. Please expound on this. What do you base this opinion on? Jeffries was terribly strong, tough, durable, had great heart & was very ...

My biggest objection is Jeffries. Jeffries would have taken both Liston & Tyson into the championship rounds & licked both, if they didn't lick themselves. Jeffries should be rated 6th at worst. Glad to see Floyd made the list.

The answer lies in John L. Sullivan's claim " I can lick any son of a bitch in the house". Their are weight classes in boxing for a reason.

The peek-a-boo boxing style is vulnerable to the right uppercut. Patterson avoided Liston's power shots using the bob & weave until Liston nailed him with it. Douglas nailed Tyson with it as well. Liston, Foreman & Louis would have used it to beat Tyson. Patterson & Torres used the peek-...

This is a movie I want to see. I have some film on Satterfield. He was a very exciting fighter. A promoter's dream. Bob would either knock you out, or get stopped himself. He had in the boxing adiom, " a puncher's chance", every time he stepped in the ring. Tommy Harrison, former L.H. who ...

I was wondering if anyone knows if film exists of fights between Zora
Folley vs. Machen, Liston, Cleroux, Jones or Harris?
also, the Chuvalo- Cleroux fights? I have always wanted to see them, but am unaware if they exist? I sure haven't come across them.

I was 19. The sportscaster came on the 11 o'clock news with the statement, "It appears as if 37 year old Floyd Patterson is still going strong as he pounded out a unanimous 10 round decision over Oscar Bonavena tonight at Madison Square Garden in New York. I was floating. I realize it wasn't a ...

Frazier was probably at his best in 69-70 and would be too much for Patterson. Patterson had nothing to keep Frazier off of him and Patterson was not durable enough to survive Frazier's offense. Frazier was very active at that time, fighting about every 3 months against good competition. IMO, Frazi...

My favourite is Floyd's title defence against Brian London. I liked the one against Tom McNeely as well. Against London he was always on the move, using the ring & his jab. I think he would have fared much better as a whole had he used this style more often. Certainly against the big punchers li...

Does anyone know the real story behind the Ellis-Quarry fight. Did Jerry Quarry really have a broken back? I mean what on earth is a man doing in a ring in that condition? If he did, why? It must have been a small hairline fracture of some sort, still...

Joe, I agree with you on the point fighters today aren't as abused as they once were. On the other side however, fighting once a year, over a number of years is a form of abuse, would you not agree? The big contention in baseball is Aaron started to decline at the age Bonds started to improve. Fight...

My favourite is Million dollar Gate, 1963
It details the life & legend of Jack "Doc" Kearns.
A great read.

It used to be you were washed up by your early 30's. What are these guys on now? Move up a class or two & fight forever. Let's see how many of them end up dead a few years from now.They aren't fooling anybody. They fight once a year. They're rich & their old. That seems a rather sad set of c...

Kids used to idolize the Heavyweight champion. He was the man. Until that happens again, & the alphabet boys are dong their best to make sure it doesn't, boxing is on a slippery slope. It isn't about the UFC though. Only boxing can kill boxing.

Patterson-Liston
Spinks-Tyson

Liston & Tyson were certainly the favourites, but 1st round?
Why was it so easy for them? Patterson & Spinks are hall of famers.
It should have been a lot closer than it turned out.

Morrison had more offensive talent & was the better hitter. However, that's where it ends. George was stronger mentally & physically. He faced all the greats of his era & was never knocked off his feet. The Washerwoman takes out the scrubbing board on Morrison.

George was at his best mid 60's. Doug Jones W Floyd Patterson L (1965
fight of the year) Ali L for title. Morrison would wilt in the later rounds.
George might stop him. He took Quarry out in 69, & Jerry was a cut above Morrison.

I thought Floyd beat him in 68. How would the 58 version have made out? Ellis was better than Harris, who he stopped in 12 in a one sided fight that year. I think Floyd would have had more stamina than in 68, & was quicker to boot. It would still have been close. Ellis was good, but I think Floy...

Boxing is the least regulated of all sports. As long as the fighters continue to get " a little help" , they can get as big as they want.

I dont see how: Pete Rademacher Roy Harris Tommy Jackson (2x's) Tom McNeeley Ingemar Johansson (2x's) Brian London were better than.... Muhammad Ali (2x's) Jerry Quarry (2x's) George Chuvalo Henry Cooper Zora Folley Jimmy Ellis The better opponents? Come on man. I said Floyd's opponets were better ...

Patterson quite possibly had the second fastest hands in HW history, while Walcott was one of the great innovators (created moves as his fights went along, was great at improvising). Walcott was very tricky, while Patterson could really move in and out of danger. Be a very interesting fight in my o...

Both fighters were trained by the Florio brothers, Nick & Dan. The sleek & tigerish young Patterson vs. the cagey, slippery, & smart moving veteran. I think if you added Ezzard Charles to this mix, they would all take turns beating each other. I lean to Walcott, by decision in a very clo...

I understand what your saying Bill, however there is always the issue of what has the fighter accomplished in the pro ranks to earn the shot. A guy coming right out of the amateurs , leap frogging over guys who have beaten other pro contenders who have been paying their dues so to speak becomes an ...