[quote="SUGARRAYSMELEE"]I think Sugar Ray Robinson's string of 91 consecutive victories between 1943 and 1951 deserves a mention.[/quote] How about Roberto Duran, 72 wins and 1 loss when he moved up to welter and beat Sugar Ray Leonard? Wish he had retired after the 1st fight with SRL! Ima...

[quote="SUGARRAYSMELEE"][quote="TigerMoth"][quote="SUGARRAYSMELEE"]This question is very difficult to gauge and impossible to answer definitively. However, some notables should be: Muhammad Ali winning the heavyweight crown 3 times. I know this record has been broken, b...

[quote="SUGARRAYSMELEE"]This question is very difficult to gauge and impossible to answer definitively. However, some notables should be: Muhammad Ali winning the heavyweight crown 3 times. I know this record has been broken, but Ali did it during the golden age of heavyweight boxing compe...

[quote="alexpaterson"]I thought Duran won it by a point, it was a fantastic fight but felt Duran outworked him in most of the close rounds[/quote] Thanks to everyone for the responses. When I said, "clearly", I wasn't suggesting dominating. I scored the fight the same as the one ...

I am a big Duran fan. I think it was amazing how well he did at age 37 against a guy who was almost a light heavy in size - Duran even had the only knockdown of the fight!!

But, I watched the fight the other day on youtube and in my opinion, Barkley clearly won.

What's your opinion?

[quote="ThatOne"]Who knows? .[/quote] Ali basically did nothing in the fight until George was so exhausted he could have been KO'd by a strong breeze. In my opinion, two things led to Ali's victory. One is that the ropes were unusually loose - Ali was a great tactical fighter and took adva...

[quote="bennie"]He was tough and exciting and didn't deserve to die the way he did.[/quote] I was on a baseball team with his younger brother - wow, long time ago! My understanding was that he was fooling around with a mobster's daughter who was married, was warned and didn't listen. I als...

[quote="yancey"]Smokin' Joe Frazier. He clearly lost quite a bit after the 3/8/71 FOTC, but he did summon himself and rose to the occasion for the Thrilla in Manila in '75. Just wish he would have been sent out for the 15th round.[/quote] I should have mentioned Smokin Joe. One of my 5 fav...

I don't like Muhammad Ali and I don't like Sugar Ray Leonard. But, I have to admit and admire that they each had that special quality - the ability to rise to the occasion. Ali vs Foreman, SRL vs Hearns 1 - fantastic ability demonstrated to rise to the occasion and deliver the goods. I also think La...

[quote="bennie"]Hopkins could make Jesus Christ look ordinary. [/quote]

Good one.

Thanks for the replies.

I am very curious about Joe. With his record, he must have had some exceptional abilities. I just watched his fight against 43 year old Bernard and I wasn't at all impressed (wasn't impressed with BH's throw one punch and hold either). At one point, Manny Steward (who I felt was fair and very respec...

[quote="Goodnight, Irene"][quote="TigerMoth"][quote="Goodnight, Irene"]Lewis would never wake up from the first fight with Foreman. There would be no opportunity for either man to take two from three.[/quote] Hey, at least when LL went down he stayed down - never took a...

[quote="Goodnight, Irene"]Think you have your acronyms confused, fella.[/quote]

Yes, and I do it every freaking time. SRL, SRL, SRL, SRL, SRL, SRL

Holyfield's brain seems OK but mine, not so good.

[quote="Goodnight, Irene"]Lewis would never wake up from the first fight with Foreman. There would be no opportunity for either man to take two from three.[/quote] Hey, at least when LL went down he stayed down - never took a lot of punishment. If they fought I would root for George. But, ...

[quote="gregor"]Part of that is due to his personality. Most popular champions were either the guys who were nice and humble (Foreman II), or who had image of "bad guys" like Tyson or Foreman I. Lewis was never involved in any scandal inside or outside the ring, behaved well at p...

After these fights, I gained respect for Holyfield and lost respect for SRL. When you see SRR below, please substitute SRL - apparently, I have taken too many punches even though I have never been in the ring - only watched fights. :geek2: Holyfield, at least a short time ago, showed that he is stil...

[quote="boxbible"]Did it say anywhere that he's broke? He's getting a house foreclosed on... well, hello... that's happening to a lot of people. He probably re-fi'd the house and now the ARM portion of the mortgage is coming due, can't sell it, so he's letting it go. Tons of people are doi...

[quote="Goodnight, Irene"]Another near-swing battle. IMO, Louis wins. Why? Similar power, & absolutely [i]drastic[/i] advantages in handspeed &, more significantly, accuracy. Louis makes Foreman pay for his wilder swings dearly. Of course, the chances Foreman steamrolls a smart, pa...

[quote="Goodnight, Irene"]& what did Jones accomplish at [i]Jr. Middle[/i]!? C'mon, Elmer, you can't really tell me you expect the 154lb. version of Jones, green as a new-born banana, to beat Leonard, 28-1-0 (with experience against the likes of Benitez, Duran & Hearns) at the time...

[quote="ThatOne"]?[/quote]

Ridiculous to say In His Prime - Mike Tyson's prime ended the moment he hooked up with Don King and his band of incompetents!!

[quote]beat Leonard and Hearns who never beat prime LHs near the class of Joe[/quote] Wow, pretty confusing statement since Joe wasn't a LH. How in the heck would Joe beat Hearns? Tommy would have kept at a distance, popped him with his fast, strong jab until there was an opening and then dropped hi...

:D[/quote] I've never said i rated him highly outside super middle weight, i wouldnt have fancied him to be undisputed at light heavy. But i dont think anyone could have beaten him prime for prime at super middle. Where does it state fighters have to fight at different weights to be considered all t...

Great work. You only have 19 fighters to go in order to respond to the post. By the way, ironically, I don't know why, age twenty eight was a bad year for James Toney - then, he didn't lose again for the next ten years until Samuel Peter beat him. At age 35 he KO'd Evander Holyfield. Care to comment...

[quote="dempseyfire"]Calzaghe did all one can ask of a modern fighter. He never lost, beat the other top guys in the division in their prime (Mitchell, Lacy, and Kessler) beat two ATGs (Roy, Hopkins) both past their best but Hopkins was and is still a top 5 PFP fighter, so that is no Ali-A...

By the way, sorry to see this has turned into a British vs American discussion. I included both British and American boxers in the list. Only one person, in detail, said fighter by fighter (British and American), who he thought Joe could have beaten. That is topic and a list of boxers was given. So,...