Anybody remember this fight? Leonard was a fast climber, expected to be the second coming of Ali. Flashy, articulate, good looking oh yeah and one hell of a boxer. Had never heard of Ecklund before. I expect he was a club fighter positioned to be a stepping stone for Leonard on his way up to capture...

Holmes would launch that jab like a telephone pole in Lennox face all night long.
Mind you it would be a holy war, and probably would have a second fight.
But, Holmes takes this one.

you bring up a good point "buying into the bullshit". Looking back on it everyone knew something was terribly wrong. There were discussions about Ali's word slurring and they were promptly blown off by the press, the ali camp, and everyone who looked at him through rose colored glasses. Th...

I recently watched a documentary that claimed Ali was overdosing on a controversial medication to get ready for the Holmes fight. The Good-The drug made him drop weight, he physically looked great The Bad-The drug sapped his strength. no pep, energy wise he was spent Is this true? or is this just an...

Ah, thats the beauty of Kayfabe. The constant real or not debate.

When i started this thread i had absolutely no idea just how powerful Galento's left was or how legendary is persona is remembered.

To tell the truth i bought a discount boxing dvd and came across the Galento/Baer and Louis fights.

Both these guys are caricature's of their era. Galento probably has more legit boxing skill while Butterbeans got one punch knockout power. Two Ton lost to Louis on a stoppage. This makes me think that if he could hang with the Brown Bomber, Butterbean better bring something more to the table. I thi...

I have to agree with BoxBuzz here.

Its possible Norton was up for the Ali fight in a way he never achieved again, first fight that is.

Six to one, half dozen the other.

This fights almost too close to call. Gut tells me Frazier by decision, but only after one hell of a war.

This setup makes for a nice sequel.

The persona we see on a thirty second interview usually aint true to life. The Foreman story suprises me though, he has a carefully cultivated image. Anyone remember him shaking hands with young defeated boxers after a bout? I guess anyone can be an angel when the camera is on em. Anyone here have f...

Who was beloved and who was not?...Why or why not? The reason i ask is because my late Father absolutely hated Ali. 1. he was mouthy 2. he abandon christianity 3. did not support the viet nam war 4. he could back his mouth up in the ring Seems like you either loved or hated the guy. I use this only ...

I need to watch the "Quiet Man" again.

The implication of the word Dive is that a fighter who possesses the ability to win a fight intentionally performs below par. I, along with others on this thread, do not believe for a minute that Liston had the ability to beat Ali in the second fight. What went thaough Listons mind after the knock d...

Years ago i remember reading a Lou Duva interview that accused the Tyson camp of dodging a Holyfield fight. This was around 88 or 89. At the time Tyson looked like a divine boxing god, absolutely unbeatable. I was just sure Evander would be pulp at the hands of Iron Mike. After seeing their matches ...