Barry, you missed a fighter who I would have in my top 20. The Venezuelan Jr. Welter champ Carlos Hernandez whose power was absolutely chilling. Knocked out Joe Brown, Teo Cruz, Davey Moore (broke his jaw), Kenny Lane, Bunny Grant, Alfredo Urbina, Paolo Rosi (KO, not cuts) and Baby Vasquez. These g...

Who cares about what?.... that its 27 years or that it was for the vacant title and not Coetzees title???... as a reference site for all fans of the manly art surely it is our duty to defend the facts when they are being protrayed mistakenly???>>>... is it is it not??? :roll: 8) :-? portrayed mista...

I cringe every time this guy starts a thread and says something stupid. RJJ losing to Dariusz....yeah....okay

As I stated above...why did Jones not test positive in the tests given by the sanctioning body, the WBA? And why did he not fail the tests given by the WBC...IBA and IBC? The IBF test result, if they are not just flat out lying, is almost certainly a false positive, which occurs quite often with dr...

Silky---For starters...,it's funny that you dropped completely out of the thread when you could not prove anything back about 8, or 10 days ago and now you want to try to pretend like you found something...LOL!!! All I have to say about that is IBF...the same IBF who's president was put in prison.....

Silky---All I have to say about that is IBF...the same IBF who's president was put in prison...the same IBF that has been a steady known org of corruption, but most importantly...an org that had nothing to do with the rules and regulations of the fight in question...most people who know even a litt...

Well what do say to that then Barry???... is that a figment of my imagination???.... I think you've just shown how unbiased you are on your last few posts here... frankly you're a disgrace and should hand in you moderatorship imo as you are plainly too biased and abusive to hold such a position... ...

Well I have the book too and theres nothing in it by Heller saying that he thought Jordan was telling porkies... I'm sure if Heller thought Jordan was lying about everything the interview wouldnt have been included in the book. Maybe Jordan stretched the truth here or there a bit but I belive him a...

Well I have the book too and theres nothing in it by Heller saying that he thought Jordan was telling porkies... I'm sure if Heller thought Jordan was lying about everything the interview wouldnt have been included in the book. Maybe Jordan stretched the truth here or there a bit but I belive him a...

Well I have the book too and theres nothing in it by Heller saying that he thought Jordan was telling porkies... I'm sure if Heller thought Jordan was lying about everything the interview wouldnt have been included in the book. Maybe Jordan stretched the truth here or there a bit but I belive him a...

Jaclem wrote:..parm..thanks....the book is on a shelf about ten feet from where i'm sitting as i write this, so i'll check it out again to read heller's comments. as i said it has been a long time sincei first read it.

Sorry Jaclem, didn't mean to be rude. I wrote that in response to the original poster.

You obvoiusly didn't read everything. The author, Peter Heller made reference that Jordan's comments on his background weren't accurate.

It's 2:00 AM, and I can't sleep. What else to do but put together a list on the top of my head? The Walker Law/Jack Dempsey Queensbury Rules/John L. Sullivan The Color Line/Rocky Marciano TV/Rocky Marciano Defense/Jack Johnson Combination Punching/Joe Gans Boxer-Puncher/Sam Langford Defense/Benny L...

All I could really find was an interview with Richard Hall accusing Jones of using steroids. While possible, I just couldn't find any hard evidence of this. Sounds like more Internet gossip than anything. No, that's not a mere rumor ... that interview was in the wake of the Jones/Hall title fight i...

Well then, if you saw "documents" and it was reported in papers then it should be no problem for you to copy and paste it from somewhere and prove us wrong. Don't know where you're from, but that story would be big news here, even a bigger story than Toney testing positive. So again, if y...

The only one whining is you Barry, why do you take everything so personally?... its really tiresome... everyone knows that Jones failed the dugs test... I've seen the papers... if you want to pretend it didnt happen thats up to you, but you're denying the facts I'm afraid... I dont need to prove it...

As I said from the start...why don't you put some actual evidence up for us all to see, or quit making up bullshit claims that you have absolutely nothing to back it with...whereas the great quitter Vitali, well you yourself know about his steroid abuse, yet you still want to yap nonsense that you ...

A nice piece on an all-time great.

At least Klitchenko came clean about his use of steroids when he was young and he speaks out now against its use... I dont hear Roy doing anything simular!.... Fact is how good would Roy have been without a little help from his little boosters???.... :roll: :roll: :roll: Came clean?!?!?!?!?! Maybe ...

>>>>At least Klitchenko came clean about his use of steroids when he was young and he speaks out now against its use... I dont hear Roy doing anything simular!.... Fact is how good would Roy have been without a little help from his little boosters???<<< Jones has nothing to come clean about...and a...

>>>Meanwhile, the steroid brothers are (or were) known abusers<<< So very true...which if that put such a bad taste in silkovs mouth about Jones...looks like he would be throwing up about the Klitschko's! >>>The reason the losses are held against RJJ is because people despised his arrogance for so ...

>>>not least a certain failed drugs test which was hurriedly hushed up and seems never to get mentioned much<<< As I have asked every other person who has ever tried to make that claim...where is your evidence...where is any evidence? And for someone who is so praising of Vitali Klitschko it is iro...

Palomino was never knocked out by anyone, now that's not to say that it wouldn't be possible to be knocked out by Cuevas. I just don't see Cuevas winning this fight, I think he's a vastly overrated fighter, fun to watch, sure, but overrated nonetheless. Palomino late or by decision.

Thank you Parm, was that your work? Great read and it really fills the "thousand questions" I had about this guy. I only realized he was great when he fought Gamache.....being one of those who thought it was going to be a home town celebration.....He really put a damper on the night I'll ...

Nazarov was a hell of a fighter! He put it on Gamache nearly as good as Gatti did and he beat some really good fighters. I was surprised when Jean-Baptiste Mendy beat him! IMO he put it on Gamache better than Gatti did as Gamache was closer to his prime, in a proper weight class, and the fight was ...