Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

Rachel..Circa 1939
Simons Brickyard

The pictures and stories on this thread put life in its proper perspective.

Frank,I think of Rachel everyday. I ask God to take me off the set,if everyone could be happy.

Thank you, Rog....

[dagosd2000]

IT'S LIKE THIS

It's like this with me and women. God made them soft and emotional.The love we have in our hearts we learned from them.Our mothers are the first persons we fall in love with. We look up at them when we are little babies and they instill love in our hearts. They bear our children. They are better than us. I want to protect them. Open doors. Let them go ahead of me. They civilize us along with our children Man would destroy himself if women where taken off the planet.

I've been with a lot of women I guess. I treat them nice. I tell them they are pretty. That's very important. Always tell them that they are pretty.

You can lie to women and they'll believe those lies.The television and the movies that try to teach women to be contrary to their nature should be banished from the face of the Earth.

[kikibalt]

I'm of to have menudo con pata...

[kikibalt]

Tell me about Paddy DeMarco and Cisco Andrade, kikibalt?

Elmer, Cisco Andrade I knew real well, in the mid-1950's I trained with Cisco, I hung out with him, we also had jobs next door to each other in Whittier,Ca., he fought all the top fighters of the 1950's-60's, after his career was over he worked at Fred C. Nelles school for boys, he was still working there when he died.


Cisco Andrade

Alias Compton Comet
Birth Name Robert Andrade
Country USA
Global Id 12669
Birthplace Los Angeles, CA
Division Lightweight
Born 1930-01-25
Died 1989-01-01
Height 173cm


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1962-03-09 Davey Moore Los Angeles, USA L TKO 7
1961-12-08 Battling Torres Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1961-11-13 Al Medrano San Jose, USA W RTD 6
1961-09-26 Joey Lopes Sacramento, USA L MD 10
1961-06-06 Luis Molina San Jose, USA L UD 10
1961-04-15 Bert Somodio Quezon City, Philippines L PTS 10
1961-02-02 Carlos Ortiz Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1960-10-28 Joe Brown Los Angeles, USA L UD 15
1960-10-01 Ramon Gastellum Culiacan, Mexico W TKO 9
1960-07-16 Battling Torres Los Angeles, USA W KO 7
1960-05-22 Antonio Contreras Nogales, Mexico W KO 5
1960-04-28 Kildo Nunez Tijuana, Mexico W TKO 4
1959-05-21 Mauro Vazquez Los Angeles, USA L MD 10
1959-04-04 Jay Fullmer Palm Springs, USA W SD 10
1959-02-13 Frankie Ryff New York, USA L UD 10
1958-09-30 Johnny Gonsalves Oakland, USA L UD 10
1958-09-13 Lauro Salas Hollywood, USA W TKO 8
1958-08-14 Bobby Bell Oakland, USA W TKO 7
1957-11-07 Jorge Macias Fresno, USA W TKO 9
1957-07-25 Wallace (Bud) Smith Los Angeles, USA W TKO 9
1957-07-02 Billy Evans Las Vegas, USA W PTS 10
1956-08-29 Art Aragon Los Angeles, USA L TKO 9
1956-07-03 Luke Sandoval Phoenix, USA W KO 3
1956-04-17 Jorge Macias San Jose, USA W UD 10
1956-02-01 Jimmy Carter Chicago, USA W SD 10
1955-11-22 Kenny Davis Hollywood, USA W TKO 7
1955-09-09 Orlando Zulueta New York, USA W UD 10
1955-08-02 Eddie Chavez San Jose, USA W KO 6
1955-04-28 Lauro Salas Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1955-02-17 Lauro Salas Los Angeles, USA L SD 10
1955-01-01 Ralph Dupas New Orleans, USA L UD 10
1954-11-23 Morris Leviege San Jose, USA W PTS 10
1954-10-09 Henry Davis Rochester, USA W UD 10
1954-08-14 Boland Abrams Philadelphia, USA W MD 10
1954-06-28 Johnny DiGilio New York, USA W KO 10
1954-06-12 Carlos Chavez Boston, USA W TKO 9
1954-05-08 Armand Savoie Buffalo, USA W UD 10
1954-04-03 Percy Bassett Washington, USA W UD 10
1954-03-20 Hocine Khalfi Toledo, USA W UD 10
1954-02-02 Carlos Chavez Los Angeles, USA W MD 10
1953-12-15 Bobby Woods Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1953-11-17 Ralph Cervantes Butte, USA W PTS 10
1953-10-06 Freddie Herman Sacramento, USA D PTS 10
1953-09-22 Aberdeen Lynch Los Angeles, USA W TKO 7
1953-08-18 Freddie Herman Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1953-07-28 Bobby Why Los Angeles, USA W RTD 9
1953-04-27 Johnny Hart South Gate, USA W KO 2
1953-03-28 Reyes Lopez Hollywood, USA W TKO 4
1953-02-28 Tote Martinez Hollywood, USA W UD 10
1953-02-07 Lavert Smith Hollywood, USA W TKO 2
1952-12-13 Tiger Norman Snyder Hollywood, USA W TKO 1
1952-11-29 Ramon Carrillo Hollywood, USA W KO 2
1952-11-08 Chato Duarte Hollywood, USA W KO 1
1952-11-01 Augie Salazar Hollywood, USA W SD 6
1952-10-11 Bobby Romo Hollywood, USA W TKO 5
1952-09-20 Joey Perez Hollywood, USA W TKO 4
1952-09-06 Ralph Cheek Hollywood, USA W TKO 2
1952-08-12 Tello Cruz Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4
1952-08-05 Bobby Akino Los Angeles, USA W PTS 4

Record to Date
Won 46 (KOs 26) Lost 12 Drawn 1 Total 59


Cisco Andrade with Frank Sinatra

[kikibalt]

Anybody remember Joe Medrano? in 1974, Joe, Frankie, Tony, Albert Davila and I worked in a movie (California Split) with George Segal and Elliott Gould, the scenes that we worked on were shot at the Olympic, in one scene Joe is suppose to be ko by Davila and I'm suppose to jump in the ring when Joe is on the canvas and take his mouthpiece out, well Joe goes down, I jumped in and am going to take Joe's mouthpiece out and he start laughing like crazy, so much fo Joe's acting career.



Joe Medrano

Country USA
Global Id 20929
Birthplace Guadalajara, JAL, Mexico
Division Lightweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1979-06-27 Carmelo Negron New York, USA L KO 1
1979-04-20 Roberto Elizondo Corpus Christi, USA L KO 1
1979-02-20 Rick Folstad Bloomington, USA L TKO 8
1979-01-23 Arturo Leon Tucson, USA L PTS 10
1978-06-27 James Martinez Odessa, USA L KO 8
1978-05-16 Maurice Watkins Houston, USA L KO 7
1978-03-18 Arturo Garcia San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1977-08-19 Benny Marquez Chicago, USA L UD 8
1977-06-13 Jimmy Heair Memphis, USA L KO 4
1977-06-11 Benny Marquez Sterling, USA L PTS 6
1977-04-12 Frank Santore Orlando, USA L KO 2
1977-04-05 Rommel Mendoza Houston, USA W KO 10
1977-03-17 Carlos Becerril Los Angeles, USA L KO 2
1977-02-28 Freddie Harris Houston, USA L PTS 10
1977-01-25 Jaime Martinez Houston, USA W PTS 8
1976-09-30 Gabby Cantera Galveston, USA L TKO 7
1976-09-07 Sean O'Grady Oklahoma City, USA L KO 3
1976-08-09 Scotty Foreman New Orleans, USA L KO 1
1976-07-27 James Martinez Topeka, USA L PTS 10
1976-07-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L KO 3
1976-06-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1975-04-17 Raul Cruz Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-03-26 Jose Olivares San Diego, USA D PTS 10
1975-03-20 Agustin Martinez Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1975-02-28 Carlos Perez San Diego, USA W KO 1
1975-01-18 Alfonso Velez Anaheim, USA W KO 1
1974-04-02 Masanao Toyoshima Honolulu, USA L TKO 4
1973-06-07 Leoncio Meza Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1973-03-08 Jorge Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1972-11-30 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1972-09-21 Masahito Takahashi Los Angeles, USA W TKO 2
1972-08-17 Urbano Davila Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1972-07-20 Richie Alvarado Los Angeles, USA W KO 7
1972-06-08 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA W TKO 8
1972-03-09 Alphonso Taylor Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1972-01-13 Antonio Zurdo Fuentes Los Angeles, USA W TKO 6
1971-12-02 Rafael Munoz Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1971-10-21 Adolfo Alvaran Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-10-07 Martin Higuera Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1971-09-30 Ray Bernal Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-07-29 Manny Alcala Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1971-03-11 Jose Lujan Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1970-06-06 Ruben Coria Woodland Hills, USA W PTS 5
1970-04-30 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1969-11-20 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 20 (KOs 15) Lost 24 Drawn 1 Total 45

[kikibalt]

Say a prayer for the return to health for Chicago great Hall of Famer Eddie Perkins, who is recovering from a heart attack.

[HomicideHenry]

IT'S LIKE THIS

It's like this with me and women. God made them soft and emotional.The love we have in our hearts we learned from them.Our mothers are the first persons we fall in love with. We look up at them when we are little babies and they instill love in our hearts. They bear our children. They are better than us. I want to protect them. Open doors. Let them go ahead of me. They civilize us along with our children Man would destroy himself if women where taken off the planet.

I've been with a lot of women I guess. I treat them nice. I tell them they are pretty. That's very important. Always tell them that they are pretty.

You can lie to women and they'll believe those lies.The television and the movies that try to teach women to be contrary to their nature should be banished from the face of the Earth.

I agree with most thats whats said, but this is a boxing forum, not a lesson in psychology.

[kikibalt]

IT'S LIKE THIS

It's like this with me and women. God made them soft and emotional.The love we have in our hearts we learned from them.Our mothers are the first persons we fall in love with. We look up at them when we are little babies and they instill love in our hearts. They bear our children. They are better than us. I want to protect them. Open doors. Let them go ahead of me. They civilize us along with our children Man would destroy himself if women where taken off the planet.

I've been with a lot of women I guess. I treat them nice. I tell them they are pretty. That's very important. Always tell them that they are pretty.

You can lie to women and they'll believe those lies.The television and the movies that try to teach women to be contrary to their nature should be banished from the face of the Earth.

I agree with most thats whats said, but this is a boxing forum, not a lesson in psychology.

I don't think this thread is for you HH, I think its over you head...

[HomicideHenry]

I wouldnt know about that. I'm not of the West Coast to even share stories. So in one way or another, I imagine the thread isnt suited to me.

[kikibalt]

I wouldnt know about that. I'm not of the West Coast to even share stories. So in one way or another, I imagine the thread isnt suited to me.

You don't have to be from the West Coast to be welcome here, you can share your stories from Ohio and else where and they will be welcome, if you read the thread you'll see that we have people from the Mid-West, U.K and else where, all we ask is that you be respectful of other.

[HomicideHenry]

cool. i never knew i could share stories from Ohio as well. i apologize ahead of time then, i was a bit of an ass.

[kikibalt]

cool. i never knew i could share stories from Ohio as well. i apologize ahead of time then, i was a bit of an ass.

Welcome....

[dagosd2000]

Anybody remember Joe Medrano? in 1974, Joe, Frankie, Tony, Albert Davila and I worked in a movie (California Split) with George Segal and Elliott Gould, the scenes that we worked on were shot at the Olympic, in one scene Joe is suppose to be ko by Davila and I'm suppose to jump in the ring when Joe is on the canvas and take his mouthpiece out, well Joe goes down, I jumped in and am going to take Joe's mouthpiece out and he start laughing like crazy, so much fo Joe's acting career.



Joe Medrano

Country USA
Global Id 20929
Birthplace Guadalajara, JAL, Mexico
Division Lightweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1979-06-27 Carmelo Negron New York, USA L KO 1
1979-04-20 Roberto Elizondo Corpus Christi, USA L KO 1
1979-02-20 Rick Folstad Bloomington, USA L TKO 8
1979-01-23 Arturo Leon Tucson, USA L PTS 10
1978-06-27 James Martinez Odessa, USA L KO 8
1978-05-16 Maurice Watkins Houston, USA L KO 7
1978-03-18 Arturo Garcia San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1977-08-19 Benny Marquez Chicago, USA L UD 8
1977-06-13 Jimmy Heair Memphis, USA L KO 4
1977-06-11 Benny Marquez Sterling, USA L PTS 6
1977-04-12 Frank Santore Orlando, USA L KO 2
1977-04-05 Rommel Mendoza Houston, USA W KO 10
1977-03-17 Carlos Becerril Los Angeles, USA L KO 2
1977-02-28 Freddie Harris Houston, USA L PTS 10
1977-01-25 Jaime Martinez Houston, USA W PTS 8
1976-09-30 Gabby Cantera Galveston, USA L TKO 7
1976-09-07 Sean O'Grady Oklahoma City, USA L KO 3
1976-08-09 Scotty Foreman New Orleans, USA L KO 1
1976-07-27 James Martinez Topeka, USA L PTS 10
1976-07-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L KO 3
1976-06-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1975-04-17 Raul Cruz Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-03-26 Jose Olivares San Diego, USA D PTS 10
1975-03-20 Agustin Martinez Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1975-02-28 Carlos Perez San Diego, USA W KO 1
1975-01-18 Alfonso Velez Anaheim, USA W KO 1
1974-04-02 Masanao Toyoshima Honolulu, USA L TKO 4
1973-06-07 Leoncio Meza Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1973-03-08 Jorge Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1972-11-30 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1972-09-21 Masahito Takahashi Los Angeles, USA W TKO 2
1972-08-17 Urbano Davila Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1972-07-20 Richie Alvarado Los Angeles, USA W KO 7
1972-06-08 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA W TKO 8
1972-03-09 Alphonso Taylor Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1972-01-13 Antonio Zurdo Fuentes Los Angeles, USA W TKO 6
1971-12-02 Rafael Munoz Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1971-10-21 Adolfo Alvaran Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-10-07 Martin Higuera Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1971-09-30 Ray Bernal Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-07-29 Manny Alcala Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1971-03-11 Jose Lujan Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1970-06-06 Ruben Coria Woodland Hills, USA W PTS 5
1970-04-30 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1969-11-20 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 20 (KOs 15) Lost 24 Drawn 1 Total 45

Frank
I remember Joe Medrano. He looked older in the face than he actually was. Tough guy who fought tough guys like himself. Not great skills. He knew where he stood. Bread and butter. What makes the sport interesting to me.

[dagosd2000]

cool. i never knew i could share stories from Ohio as well. i apologize ahead of time then, i was a bit of an ass.

Welcome....

HH
I shifted over here a year ago. No name calling and insults. Welcome aboard.I read what you said about my story on women. No harm,no foul.

[kikibalt]

Anybody remember Joe Medrano? in 1974, Joe, Frankie, Tony, Albert Davila and I worked in a movie (California Split) with George Segal and Elliott Gould, the scenes that we worked on were shot at the Olympic, in one scene Joe is suppose to be ko by Davila and I'm suppose to jump in the ring when Joe is on the canvas and take his mouthpiece out, well Joe goes down, I jumped in and am going to take Joe's mouthpiece out and he start laughing like crazy, so much fo Joe's acting career.



Joe Medrano

Country USA
Global Id 20929
Birthplace Guadalajara, JAL, Mexico
Division Lightweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1979-06-27 Carmelo Negron New York, USA L KO 1
1979-04-20 Roberto Elizondo Corpus Christi, USA L KO 1
1979-02-20 Rick Folstad Bloomington, USA L TKO 8
1979-01-23 Arturo Leon Tucson, USA L PTS 10
1978-06-27 James Martinez Odessa, USA L KO 8
1978-05-16 Maurice Watkins Houston, USA L KO 7
1978-03-18 Arturo Garcia San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1977-08-19 Benny Marquez Chicago, USA L UD 8
1977-06-13 Jimmy Heair Memphis, USA L KO 4
1977-06-11 Benny Marquez Sterling, USA L PTS 6
1977-04-12 Frank Santore Orlando, USA L KO 2
1977-04-05 Rommel Mendoza Houston, USA W KO 10
1977-03-17 Carlos Becerril Los Angeles, USA L KO 2
1977-02-28 Freddie Harris Houston, USA L PTS 10
1977-01-25 Jaime Martinez Houston, USA W PTS 8
1976-09-30 Gabby Cantera Galveston, USA L TKO 7
1976-09-07 Sean O'Grady Oklahoma City, USA L KO 3
1976-08-09 Scotty Foreman New Orleans, USA L KO 1
1976-07-27 James Martinez Topeka, USA L PTS 10
1976-07-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L KO 3
1976-06-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1975-04-17 Raul Cruz Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-03-26 Jose Olivares San Diego, USA D PTS 10
1975-03-20 Agustin Martinez Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1975-02-28 Carlos Perez San Diego, USA W KO 1
1975-01-18 Alfonso Velez Anaheim, USA W KO 1
1974-04-02 Masanao Toyoshima Honolulu, USA L TKO 4
1973-06-07 Leoncio Meza Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1973-03-08 Jorge Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1972-11-30 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1972-09-21 Masahito Takahashi Los Angeles, USA W TKO 2
1972-08-17 Urbano Davila Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1972-07-20 Richie Alvarado Los Angeles, USA W KO 7
1972-06-08 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA W TKO 8
1972-03-09 Alphonso Taylor Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1972-01-13 Antonio Zurdo Fuentes Los Angeles, USA W TKO 6
1971-12-02 Rafael Munoz Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1971-10-21 Adolfo Alvaran Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-10-07 Martin Higuera Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1971-09-30 Ray Bernal Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-07-29 Manny Alcala Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1971-03-11 Jose Lujan Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1970-06-06 Ruben Coria Woodland Hills, USA W PTS 5
1970-04-30 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1969-11-20 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 20 (KOs 15) Lost 24 Drawn 1 Total 45

Frank
I remember Joe Medrano. He looked older in the face than he actually was. Tough guy who fought tough guys like himself. Not great skills. He knew where he stood. Bread and butter. What makes the sport interesting to me.

Rog...Joe started out with Jackie McCoy and got a few wins, from some reason I know nothing about Jackie dropped Joe and after that it was mostly down hill for Joe.

[raylawpc]

Anybody remember Joe Medrano? in 1974, Joe, Frankie, Tony, Albert Davila and I worked in a movie (California Split) with George Segal and Elliott Gould, the scenes that we worked on were shot at the Olympic, in one scene Joe is suppose to be ko by Davila and I'm suppose to jump in the ring when Joe is on the canvas and take his mouthpiece out, well Joe goes down, I jumped in and am going to take Joe's mouthpiece out and he start laughing like crazy, so much fo Joe's acting career.



Joe Medrano

Country USA
Global Id 20929
Birthplace Guadalajara, JAL, Mexico
Division Lightweight


Career Record © http://www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1979-06-27 Carmelo Negron New York, USA L KO 1
1979-04-20 Roberto Elizondo Corpus Christi, USA L KO 1
1979-02-20 Rick Folstad Bloomington, USA L TKO 8
1979-01-23 Arturo Leon Tucson, USA L PTS 10
1978-06-27 James Martinez Odessa, USA L KO 8
1978-05-16 Maurice Watkins Houston, USA L KO 7
1978-03-18 Arturo Garcia San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1977-08-19 Benny Marquez Chicago, USA L UD 8
1977-06-13 Jimmy Heair Memphis, USA L KO 4
1977-06-11 Benny Marquez Sterling, USA L PTS 6
1977-04-12 Frank Santore Orlando, USA L KO 2
1977-04-05 Rommel Mendoza Houston, USA W KO 10
1977-03-17 Carlos Becerril Los Angeles, USA L KO 2
1977-02-28 Freddie Harris Houston, USA L PTS 10
1977-01-25 Jaime Martinez Houston, USA W PTS 8
1976-09-30 Gabby Cantera Galveston, USA L TKO 7
1976-09-07 Sean O'Grady Oklahoma City, USA L KO 3
1976-08-09 Scotty Foreman New Orleans, USA L KO 1
1976-07-27 James Martinez Topeka, USA L PTS 10
1976-07-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L KO 3
1976-06-23 Ricky Gutierrez San Antonio, USA L PTS 10
1975-04-17 Raul Cruz Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1975-03-26 Jose Olivares San Diego, USA D PTS 10
1975-03-20 Agustin Martinez Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1975-02-28 Carlos Perez San Diego, USA W KO 1
1975-01-18 Alfonso Velez Anaheim, USA W KO 1
1974-04-02 Masanao Toyoshima Honolulu, USA L TKO 4
1973-06-07 Leoncio Meza Los Angeles, USA L KO 1
1973-03-08 Jorge Valenzuela Los Angeles, USA W PTS 10
1972-11-30 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 10
1972-09-21 Masahito Takahashi Los Angeles, USA W TKO 2
1972-08-17 Urbano Davila Los Angeles, USA W UD 10
1972-07-20 Richie Alvarado Los Angeles, USA W KO 7
1972-06-08 Jorge Rodriguez Los Angeles, USA W TKO 8
1972-03-09 Alphonso Taylor Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1972-01-13 Antonio Zurdo Fuentes Los Angeles, USA W TKO 6
1971-12-02 Rafael Munoz Los Angeles, USA W PTS 6
1971-10-21 Adolfo Alvaran Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-10-07 Martin Higuera Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1971-09-30 Ray Bernal Los Angeles, USA W KO 1
1971-07-29 Manny Alcala Los Angeles, USA W KO 3
1971-03-11 Jose Lujan Los Angeles, USA W KO 4
1970-06-06 Ruben Coria Woodland Hills, USA W PTS 5
1970-04-30 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA W KO 6
1969-11-20 Martin Alvarez Los Angeles, USA L PTS 6

Record to Date
Won 20 (KOs 15) Lost 24 Drawn 1 Total 45

Frank
I remember Joe Medrano. He looked older in the face than he actually was. Tough guy who fought tough guys like himself. Not great skills. He knew where he stood. Bread and butter. What makes the sport interesting to me.

Rog...Joe started out with Jackie McCoy and got a few wins, from some reason I know nothing about Jackie droped Joe and after that it was mostly down hill for Joe.

I only saw him once, and he looked very ordinary against O'Grady.

[kikibalt]

Tom...Joe Medrano was very ordinary, maybe thats why McCoy dropped him....

[HomicideHenry]

I dont have a whole hell of a lot of big time stories to tell. Most of mine are either of 'tough men' champs, or of low level boxers, and bare knuckle challenges. I guess I'll start with a man I grew up hearing stories about when I worked as laborer doing salvage and construction as well as lawn and garden when I was 13 years old.

I always heard stories about Virgil Gibson, but never knew quite what to believe. I had heard off and on that as a younger man he competed in the Golden Gloves down in Cincinnati, and ended up with a 50-0 record as an amateur and even dabbled as a professional, or something to that effect. You know as well as I do, such records and reputations are often padded with lies and exaggeration. To this day, though I admit I never quite searched, I dont think I seen one bit of evidence to prove he was what was said of him.

Then came The Pines bar in Quincy. I think it was around 1999-2000. And Virgil Gibson was nearing his 60's, if not 60. Two men came into the bar and were in their 20's or 30's and all hell broke loose. Gibson, to nobodys shock in the bar (but mine), knocked out both men. I stood in awe that a man that old could still be so strong and such a powerful puncher.

Whether or not Gibson was Golden Gloves champ or not, 50-0 or not, what I witnessed was actual boxing skill that night in The Pines. Gibson easily slipped away from those wild punches, and threw straight accurate bombs on each one of them.

I will see if I can find anything on old Virgil, but I know I always grew up with the stories, and know what I seen. Maybe this dont quite fit in here with the thread, but its one of my favorite stories to tell.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

^^^This is the only Virgil Gibson on BoxRec forums. I have questioned whether or not this was THE Virgil Gibson I had met and seen fight in The Pines, but I doubt it. Virgil did come from down south, but I dont believe he was a native of Florida, and I think the fights taken place on the record may have been too late to have been what I expected.

[bennie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9nBT0xXV2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-nRrlzOSAo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VOdFdsYb8c

Jerry Quarry vs Mac Foster

Brutal ko!!

Classic Jerry Quarry! When Jerry was at his best he was beautiful to watch. He was a great boxer and a devistating puncher. I remember this bout took place nearly three weeks after my pro debut. At the time, he and his long time manager (and mine), Johnnie Flores, had split. Johnnie still held half of his contract, but the two no longer worked together. I coud tell when Jerry was right, he had fun in the ring. In the final round, Jerry was on auto pilot, and Mac Foster would soon be ruined. Foster was never the same.

Ironically, less than six months after losing to Quarry, Mac Foster would sign on with Jonnie Flores and join our stable. Johnnie would turn myself and Mac Foster over to Dwight Hawkins as our trainer. At the same time, Johnnie added another top ranked featherweight to his stable, Portland's Richie "Sweet" Sue. I'd box with Sue at the Main Street Gym, along with Felipe Torres while training for my prelim to the Ken Buchanan-Ruben Navarro Lightweight title fight at the Forum.

-Rick Farris

Foster looked like he could fight in what I saw of the Quarry fight (the ending apart). It was a shame he was unable to come back. He ended up serving as cannon fodder for someone like borin' Joe Bugner.

[kikibalt]

In August 1942, José Díaz, a young Mexican-American, was found comatose at an open reservoir at Slauson and Atlantic Boulevards in Los Angeles. He died later at the hospital. The case, known as the "Sleepy Lagoon Murder," was featured in the press for months where it was referred to as a gangland slaying. The police rounded up 300 Mexican-American youths and arrested 23 of them on murder charges, without any physical evidence. During the trial, Los Angeles police Lieutenant Edward Duran Ayres testified as an expert witness for the prosecution, claiming that people of Mexican descent were biologically prone to violence and crime due to their "oriental" Aztec ancestry (Ayres 1942). Twelve of the youth were found guilty based on this racist testimony and by the time the ruling was overturned by the U.S. District Court of Appeals in 1944, eight of the youths had spent two years in the federal penitentiary.


Sleepy Lagoon defendants in San Quentin

The racism surrounding the Sleepy Lagoon case fueled rumors of rampant crime-waves perpetrated by Mexican-American zoot-suited youth. From 3 June to 13 June 1943 hundreds of American service men in the Los Angeles area went downtown and attacked these youth, initially targeting those wearing zoot suits, but eventually beating and stripping anyone of color they could find. Chicana women were assaulted as well. The police broke up the disturbance by arresting the victims. To add further insult to injury, the Los Angeles Times featured pictures of the victims' stripped and beaten bodies on the front page. Several sources insist that such reports, which portrayed the zoot-suited victims as members of a dangerous gang who perpetuated the riots, were strictly conjectural (see Hinojos 1975, Mazon 1984, McWilliams 1943, Pitt and Pitt 1997). Writing in the New Republic magazine, shortly after the riots, Carey McWilliams, the head of the Sleepy Lagoon defense committee, portrayed zoot-suiters, known as Pachucos, not as members of organized criminal gangs but as "loosely organized neighborhood or geographical groups. . . . Many of them are, in effect, nothing more than boys clubs without a clubhouse" (McWilliams 1943).

Pachucos represent a rebellious youth culture among Chicanos. Arturo Madrid-Barela describes how the Pachuco has become a symbol of resistance against the homogenizing effects of assimilation (Madrid Barela 1973). He notes that the Pachucos' style is derived from elements of urban black culture, such as their suits and the music they listened to, but elements of Mexican culture are maintained, in essence enacting their difference through style. Francisco J. Hinojos writes that the Pachucos emphasized their difference as urban Mexican-Americans through the use of their own dialect, Caló, a mix of English and Spanish slang with Náhuatl and archaic Spanish words (Hinojos 1975. See also Gonzales 1967).

ZOOT-SUIT RIOTS TIMELINE

June 3, 1943 – Thursday

A group of thirty-five Mexican American boys were having a meeting at the Central Police Station. They were discussing their neighborhood problems and the possibility of forming a club. During the meeting a report came in stating that a group of sailors was roaming the Alpine area looking for zoot-suiters in revenge for beatings they and others had sustained. When the meeting ended, the boys were taken back to their neighborhoods in squad cars to prevent incident. Thirty-five sailors attacked the boys who were taken to the Alpine district soon after they were dropped off. Two boys were badly beaten. Sailors had also entered the Carmen Theater on Carmen and Figueroa Streets and beaten a boy there. That same evening, a gang of Mexican-American Youths attacked eleven sailors on the 1700th block of North Main Street (Domer, 72-73).

June 4, 1943 – Friday

Sailors enlarged their forces to about 200 men and formed a caravan of about twenty cars and taxis to hunt Mexican American youth dressed in zoot-suits. The traveled through downtown Los Angeles and the eastside of the city, out to the suburbs as far as Belvedere Gardens. Sheriff's deputies had received riot warning and were waiting in the area with seven squad cars and additional men. The sailors left the area without incident. They returned to Alpine and Figueroa Streets where the police and Shore Patrol were waiting. Seventeen sailors were apprehended and turned over to the naval officers without charges. The other sailors were dispersed. This group of sailor was seeking revenge for the beatings of some sailors and the alleged rape of sailors' wives by Mexican American gangs. Before the dispersion of the group, the sailors managed to beat four isolated youths dressed in zoot-suits at different points of their journey. All four boys were hospitalized (Domer. 74-76).

June 5, 1943 – Saturday

Soldiers and Marines join the sailors in their attacks on zoot-suiters. Servicemen walked arms linked through downtown Los Angeles, stopping anyone wearing a zoot-suit, and ordering them to put away their suit or suffer the consequences the next night. Police made little attempt to stop the servicemen. Twenty-seven Mexican American boys were arrested and jailed that evening "on suspicion." On that same evening, sailors entered a bar on the eastside and ordered two Mexican customers wearing zoot-suits to remove their clothes. One was beaten as well as stripped when he refused to comply. The other obeyed the commands of the sailors and his cloths were destroyed. Similar events occurred throughout the city. Police did little to stop the sailors. (McWilliam, 222)

June 6, 1943 – Sunday

Six cars with Sailors drove down Brooklyn Avenue. At Ramona Boulevard, they stopped and beat up eight teenage Mexicans. They severely damaged a bar on Indiana Street when they failed to find zoot-suiters in the establishment. The police arrested eleven boys who were beaten on Carmlita Street, six more were arrested one block down the road, seven at Ford Boulevard, six at Gifford Street and through the Mexican eastside housing. Forty-four Mexican boys were arrested by morning. Civilians also partook in the riots (McWilliams, 223).

June 7, 1943 - Monday

Five thousand people filled the downtown area near Main Street. Large numbers of civilian were also among the rioters. Some were there simply for the excitement, others to aid in the hunt for and beating of zoot-suiters. Those were dressed in these suits were stripped and there cloths were destroyed, often by fire. Street cars were halted and searched for zoot-suiters. But they were no longer the only targets of the sailors and civilians. Blacks and Filipinos were also attacked. One black man, a defense worker in his work clothes was severely beaten. Another black man lost an eye when seventy-five servicemen attacked him (Domer, 83-84) Servicemen searching for zoot-suiters invaded Meralta Theater on First and St. Louis. Again, police did little to stop the servicemen, although thousands of reserve officers had been called on duty. At midnight, the military authorities declared the downtown area of Los Angeles "out of bounds" for military personnel. Arrival of the Military Police and Shore Patrol ended the riots (McWilliams, 225)

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"We were arrested just because we are Mexicans, but
being born a Mexican is something we had no control over,
but we are proud no matter what people think. We are proud
to be Mexican American boys."
- - - Manny Reyes, Sleepy Lagoon Defendant - - -

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Tom...Joe Medrano was very ordinary, maybe thats why McCoy dropped him....

Frank, my memory of Medrano was that he was steaming hot in '71-'72. A real hot prospect along with Danny Lopez, Tury Pineda and Bobby Chacon. I saw his fight with Masahito Takahashi, who had just gave Pineda a murderous time before being stopped in 5, but Medrano had no such problem with the Japanese and stopped him in 2. He really looked the goods to me. However, he signs to fight a rematch with Jorge Rodriguez, a man he stopped in 8 rounds about 6 months before. The fight doesn't look like it's going to be a problem for Joe as he dropped Rodriguez with a quick left hook in the 2nd round. But that was it for Joe. Although the fight went the distance, Medrano took one merciless beating after being caught thereafter. Five times in all he was down. The fight should have been stopped but that was a beating one does not recover from. I saw his next couple of fights against Jorge Valenzuela and Leoncio Meza and believe me, that was not the same joe Medrano, who simply became a trial horse.

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Rodolfo Gonzalez

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"We were arrested just because we are Mexicans, but
being born a Mexican is something we had no control over,
but we are proud no matter what people think. We are proud
to be Mexican American boys."
- - - Manny Reyes, Sleepy Lagoon Defendant - - -

Frank
I have the "Zoot Suit Riots" on VHS. A documentary produced by PBS. It's narrated by Edward James Olmos. It's fascinating. They interview some of boys(now men) that were arrested for that. The women too.

I looked at the PBS website. It's going to air March 1st at 9pm. I'll tape it. Maybe you can also. I have the VHS version. I show it to my class every year. Let me know. Rog

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Rodolfo Gonzalez

I invited Rodolfo and Barb for Sunday dinner at my place. If you're out there Gato,it's camarrones estilo Mexicano I'll put on some boxing tapes if the girls don't mind. Roger