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Haye and £50.000

Posted: 24 May 2016, 15:27
by Darcy Delaney
Just wondered if he's sorted Nick Blackwell the £50.000 he said he was gonna donate to him ?

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 24 May 2016, 15:33
by orbtastic
Didn't he promise a % of the gate? Anyone know what the gate was?

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 24 May 2016, 19:39
by coneye
orbtastic wrote:Didn't he promise a % of the gate? Anyone know what the gate was?
Unfortunatly after expenses including Hayes million , there was'nt enough left to give him any

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 24 May 2016, 20:16
by asdfjkl
coneye wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Didn't he promise a % of the gate? Anyone know what the gate was?
Unfortunatly after expenses including Hayes million , there was'nt enough left to give him any
What makes you think that?

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 24 May 2016, 22:07
by Wales
asdfjkl wrote:
coneye wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Didn't he promise a % of the gate? Anyone know what the gate was?
Unfortunatly after expenses including Hayes million , there was'nt enough left to give him any
What makes you think that?
charity donations up to 50k are tax exempt.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 24 May 2016, 22:29
by Taansend
Bigging Haye up or slagging him off are pointless exercises unless we know know know know........

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 07:33
by bripez
I am sure if / when Haye gives Blackwell some money we will all know about it - he won't do it on the quiet, he will be all over tv, the papers and social media handing over one of them 6 foot cheques like you see on Children in Need.

If he doesn't give him anything then we will probably read about it in the Sun in Blackwells next interview.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 07:47
by lefty
I'm pretty sure I saw haye in the week leading up to the fight that he been talking to Blackwell (he also mentioned something about him coming to fight and doing a bit of commentary for Dave but that didn't seem to materialise tor whatever reason) Anyway Haye said somethung about Blackwell would have to wait till two or three weeks after the fight to get the money. Something about Haye himself not seeing the money till a few weeks after the event. It didn't seem like an excuse to fair.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 08:11
by Crease
I'm sure that he will give Blackwell the 50 grand, if he doesn't - he'll be getting slaughtered... It would be the worst sort of publicity he could have right now, when he's trying to pick up all his old fans and entice them back into the fold again.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 08:14
by handsofstone
lefty wrote:I'm pretty sure I saw haye in the week leading up to the fight that he been talking to Blackwell (he also mentioned something about him coming to fight and doing a bit of commentary for Dave but that didn't seem to materialise tor whatever reason) Anyway Haye said somethung about Blackwell would have to wait till two or three weeks after the fight to get the money. Something about Haye himself not seeing the money till a few weeks after the event. It didn't seem like an excuse to fair.
I was wondering where Blackwell was on saturday,i suppose they couldnt find the time whilst all the "experts" were giving their opinions and Haye was telling us what his favourite meal was

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 09:30
by Stevieb8006
It's not really any of our business how Haye handles his affairs tbf. I don't understand why people feel they have the right to know this kind of stuff nowadays. Bloody social media :witzend:

Granted David did talk about it in public, but still.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 09:48
by Counter-puncher
Stevieb8006 wrote:It's not really any of our business how Haye handles his affairs tbf. I don't understand why people feel they have the right to know this kind of stuff nowadays. Bloody social media :witzend:

Granted David did talk about it in public, but still.
i totally disagree Steve, it was Haye- for reasons of his own, that we might speculate over- that made his 'generosity' a matter of public record. we don't have a 'right', at all, I agree, but once he has put it out there people are bound to ask the question. of the self-serving publicity-whore Haye might or might not be.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 09:57
by Anzi
bripez wrote:I am sure if / when Haye gives Blackwell some money we will all know about it - he won't do it on the quiet, he will be all over tv, the papers and social media handing over one of them 6 foot cheques like you see on Children in Need.

If he doesn't give him anything then we will probably read about it in the Sun in Blackwells next interview.
Don't know about that mate ? When Haye had a bet for charity with Chisora on their fight and he won, he just told Chisora to give it to the charity, instead of taking it off him, he could of took the money and gone on the news to hand it to the charity live on Tv, if he was that way inclined.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 10:51
by london
Haye publicly said he'd give 10% of the gate receipts to Blackwell so he brought that into the public domain.

I'd be very interested to see how much Blackwell receives hopefully 50K but I don't see that happening.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 14:09
by rpms
handsofstone wrote:
lefty wrote:I'm pretty sure I saw haye in the week leading up to the fight that he been talking to Blackwell (he also mentioned something about him coming to fight and doing a bit of commentary for Dave but that didn't seem to materialise tor whatever reason) Anyway Haye said somethung about Blackwell would have to wait till two or three weeks after the fight to get the money. Something about Haye himself not seeing the money till a few weeks after the event. It didn't seem like an excuse to fair.
I was wondering where Blackwell was on saturday,i suppose they couldnt find the time whilst all the "experts" were giving their opinions and Haye was telling us what his favourite meal was
I presumed that Blackwell probably just wasn`t there,and thus avoiding the Eubanks at the Haye fight as it would have put him on the spot in light of Monday`s revelations.
Jnr mentioned that he was hoping to speak to Nick at the fight which would have made the subsequent media storm a little awkward.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 16:18
by bripez
Anzi wrote:
bripez wrote:I am sure if / when Haye gives Blackwell some money we will all know about it - he won't do it on the quiet, he will be all over tv, the papers and social media handing over one of them 6 foot cheques like you see on Children in Need.

If he doesn't give him anything then we will probably read about it in the Sun in Blackwells next interview.
Don't know about that mate ? When Haye had a bet for charity with Chisora on their fight and he won, he just told Chisora to give it to the charity, instead of taking it off him, he could of took the money and gone on the news to hand it to the charity live on Tv, if he was that way inclined.
Fair enough mate - hopefully it is a genuine gesture.

However, Haye is a great self publicist and he will know that by giving £50 grand away he will generate more than £50 grands worth of favourable publicity.

Last year I read an interview with this bloke who was considered one of the worlds top marketing gurus.

When asked his advice he said that if a company had a marketing/advertising budget of £4mil then the best thing they could do is to give £1mil to charity and then spend the other £3mil telling everybody about it.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 22:48
by asdfjkl
Haye made a million I heard, with another few fights ahead of him, I would be highly surprised if he doesn't pay, for several reasons, I think the chance is higher that he will pay double.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 25 May 2016, 22:53
by Syntax Error
I'm quite certain that Haye would have donated the money he said he would.

If he didn't, I'm sure Nick Blackwell would tell The Sun.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 04:42
by Anzi
bripez wrote:
Anzi wrote:
bripez wrote:I am sure if / when Haye gives Blackwell some money we will all know about it - he won't do it on the quiet, he will be all over tv, the papers and social media handing over one of them 6 foot cheques like you see on Children in Need.

If he doesn't give him anything then we will probably read about it in the Sun in Blackwells next interview.
Don't know about that mate ? When Haye had a bet for charity with Chisora on their fight and he won, he just told Chisora to give it to the charity, instead of taking it off him, he could of took the money and gone on the news to hand it to the charity live on Tv, if he was that way inclined.
Fair enough mate - hopefully it is a genuine gesture.

However, Haye is a great self publicist and he will know that by giving £50 grand away he will generate more than £50 grands worth of favourable publicity.

Last year I read an interview with this bloke who was considered one of the worlds top marketing gurus.

When asked his advice he said that if a company had a marketing/advertising budget of £4mil then the best thing they could do is to give £1mil to charity and then spend the other £3mil telling everybody about it.
True, Trump and Sugar do it all the time.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 06:27
by bripez
Anzi wrote:
bripez wrote:
Anzi wrote:Don't know about that mate ? When Haye had a bet for charity with Chisora on their fight and he won, he just told Chisora to give it to the charity, instead of taking it off him, he could of took the money and gone on the news to hand it to the charity live on Tv, if he was that way inclined.
Fair enough mate - hopefully it is a genuine gesture.

However, Haye is a great self publicist and he will know that by giving £50 grand away he will generate more than £50 grands worth of favourable publicity.

Last year I read an interview with this bloke who was considered one of the worlds top marketing gurus.

When asked his advice he said that if a company had a marketing/advertising budget of £4mil then the best thing they could do is to give £1mil to charity and then spend the other £3mil telling everybody about it.
True, Trump and Sugar do it all the time.
True - the advert a couple of years ago for Great Ornand Street Children's Hospital where Sugar says at the end "this is a great charity and why I have donated my fee for this advert" but doesn't mention that his donation is tax deductible and he will get £millions of good publicity out of it.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 06:30
by jamesmcdonnell
Anzi wrote:
bripez wrote:
Anzi wrote:Don't know about that mate ? When Haye had a bet for charity with Chisora on their fight and he won, he just told Chisora to give it to the charity, instead of taking it off him, he could of took the money and gone on the news to hand it to the charity live on Tv, if he was that way inclined.
Fair enough mate - hopefully it is a genuine gesture.

However, Haye is a great self publicist and he will know that by giving £50 grand away he will generate more than £50 grands worth of favourable publicity.

Last year I read an interview with this bloke who was considered one of the worlds top marketing gurus.

When asked his advice he said that if a company had a marketing/advertising budget of £4mil then the best thing they could do is to give £1mil to charity and then spend the other £3mil telling everybody about it.
True, Trump and Sugar do it all the time.
Sure, but surely everyone benefits from it? I mean the charity does well out of it too, let's not forget.

To me, I think there's no such thing as real altruism anyway, people always get something out of it, whether it's financial or a sense of personal self worth or even righteousness.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 06:38
by ILikeBeer
I can't see Haye would announce he was doing it, then not do it. What'd be the point? It'd bring him nothing but bad PR.

Besides, have we got any reason to think he didn't do it? Is there a source? Or did we just feel like criticising Haye?

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 06:43
by ILikeBeer
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Sure, but surely everyone benefits from it? I mean the charity does well out of it too, let's not forget.

To me, I think there's no such thing as real altruism anyway, people always get something out of it, whether it's financial or a sense of personal self worth or even righteousness.
^ This.

Okay, it makes the person donating look a bit douchey if they are showing off the whole time that they give money to charity. But at the end of the day, does it really matter? The charity is still making the money. The donation is still going to a good cause. Even if the person donating wants to suck themselves off a bit, or get publicity out of it.

It's not like the person donating acting like a twat means the charity gets less money, so who cares?

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 06:46
by magwitch
Taansend wrote:Bigging Haye up or slagging him off are pointless exercises unless we know know know know........
If David Haye SAID he was giving Blackwell 50k, then he’ll give it and probably has already if that’s what he said he’d do.
He’s a tit but he’s not a tw*t. A wealthy one too.

Re: Haye and £50.000

Posted: 26 May 2016, 07:58
by jamesmcdonnell
ILikeBeer wrote:I can't see Haye would announce he was doing it, then not do it. What'd be the point? It'd bring him nothing but bad PR.

Besides, have we got any reason to think he didn't do it? Is there a source? Or did we just feel like criticising Haye?
I suspect the latter.

Im among the first to point out Haye's deficiencies, but I'm happy to take him at his word about donating the money, unless there's evidence otherwise, I don't really see the need to ask the question.