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fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Viewing figures will probably be low, but I doubt that there is a direct connection between them and a purse.

Also, Murray was picked just because he is the best middleweight ready to step into the ring with GGG. They wanted to fight him last February and even before that.

It’s interesting you say that, because Martin Murray cannot travel to the US to fight, due to issues obtaining a VISA (resulting from his criminal past). So in commercial terms, a fight against the Brit doesn’t really make any sense.

You could be correct in saying that K2 has picked Murray due to him being the best available opponent, but I also feel that Golovkin’s options at 160lbs are very limited.

It’s also intriguing to read Tom Loeffler’s comments about Murray being the best fighter in the division, but perhaps this is a disingenuous statement made to purely promote the fight.

That being said, I am utterly convinced that GGG will receive far smaller purse to face Murray in Monaco than his paydays against Geale & Rubio.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Viewing figures will probably be low, but I doubt that there is a direct connection between them and a purse.

Also, Murray was picked just because he is the best middleweight ready to step into the ring with GGG. They wanted to fight him last February and even before that.

It’s interesting you say that, because Martin Murray cannot travel to the US to fight, due to issues obtaining a VISA (resulting from his criminal past). So in commercial terms, a fight against the Brit doesn’t really make any sense.

You could be correct in saying that K2 has picked Murray due to him being the best available opponent, but I also feel that Golovkin’s options at 160lbs are very limited.

It’s also intriguing to read Tom Loeffler’s comments about Murray being the best fighter in the division, but perhaps this is a disingenuous statement made to purely promote the fight.

That being said, I am utterly convinced that GGG will receive far smaller purse to face Murray in Monaco than his paydays against Geale & Rubio.

Why do you care what the purse the fighter receives? Do you get a percentage of it?

I don't care what any fighter makes, I simply want to see them face the best possible opposition at that moment in time. I'll leave their fight purses to their managers and promoters.

Aaronide_ger wrote:I care a lot about the purse fighters receive and ESPECIALLY golovkin, because people tend to make excuses about why not many fighters dont face golovkin "High risk-low reward" which is no longer true.. because if golovkin manages to fight a huge name, the money will be huge

Baby Face Finster wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:I care a lot about the purse fighters receive and ESPECIALLY golovkin, because people tend to make excuses about why not many fighters dont face golovkin "High risk-low reward" which is no longer true.. because if golovkin manages to fight a huge name, the money will be huge

That is not our concern as fans. Our sole concern should be to see the best fight the best...period.

fergusg wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:When Golovkin fought Geale he got 600.000$
When Golovkin fought Rubio he got 900.000$

How much do you think he will earn against Martin Murry? I believe around 1.1 Million $

Golovkin’s next fight is against the fairly anonymous and feather-fisted Martin Murray. It is being staged in Monaco (European time), which means that it’ll be shown (in America) on a Saturday afternoon... and will almost certainly fail to attract high viewing figures (as it's not primetime viewing).

The undercard features unknown fighters… and none of these bouts are for any major championships (unless the WBA World minimumweight title rocks your boat).

Therefore, I’m going to predict that the Golovkin-Murray fight achieves fewer than 800K viewers on HBO, with GGG receiving a payday in the region of $500K, which admittedly is a pure guess (based on historical figures).

By the way, I’m not being critical of Golovkin, but merely considering the facts with how they stack up (in commercial terms).

In terms of HBO, K2 & Gennady Golovkin's perceptions… the contest against Martin Murray (the WBC Silver Champion & number one challenger) is merely a vehicle that is being used by Team GGG to retain mandatory challenger status for Miguel Cotto’s WBC middleweight title, which means the fight in Monaco is more important strategically than fiscally… as it’ll ultimately lead to a mega-PPV bout against ‘Canelo’ Alvarez (assuming the Mexican beats the Puerto Rican Hall-of-Famer on Cinco de Mayo weekend, 2015).

krackle wrote:Golovkin makes substantially more than what is reported to american comissions or what HBO pays for the rights in america. Most non-american fighters do. In monaco there is no comission to report purses to plus monaco is a "tax paradise". No need to worry about Golovkins purses.

fergusg wrote:

keirw wrote:US viewing figures aren't the be all and end all, GoldenGlovIes and K2 have enough television deals between them for the fight to be shown in millions of homes worldwide.

If you're confident about what you've claimed, what will Golovkin's purse be and what territories are these millions of viewers coming from?

Viewing figures will probably be low, but I doubt that there is a direct connection between them and a purse.

uptconnect wrote:

Viewing figures will probably be low, but I doubt that there is a direct connection between them and a purse.

Purse sizes for the headliner are always directly connected to the estimated gate $/viewing figures.
GGG has not yet cracked that upper echelon of purse levels because he's not yet cracked that upper echelon of widely recognized and followed fighters. He'll get there, though. No doubt.

But to deny any connection between purse and viewing figures for the headliner, is silly. And just wrong.
He's currently earning peanuts compared to some lesser fighters because he has yet to arrive and win big on the biggest stage.

there are a lot of examples of fighters getting huge paychecks without drawing big numbers.

Speaking about Golovkin's popularity, there aren't many boxers more popular than him.

ikorolev wrote:More recent example is Bradley getting 2 million for a meaningless fight against Chaves.

fergusg wrote:Why have you singled-out my post in this thread as the one you chose to respond to? :??

Why have you bothered to submit a post on a thread that is titled “Gennady Golovkin Purse” when you clearly (by your own admission) have no interest whatsoever in the subject matter?

Have you got a mild form of keyboard Tourette’s syndrome, which compels you to write-up insanely idiotic posts, whereby your rambling incoherent response is not remotely close to anything that could possibly be considered a rational thought?

More recent example is Bradley getting 2 million for a meaningless fight against Chaves.

uptconnect wrote:

More recent example is Bradley getting 2 million for a meaningless fight against Chaves.

Some people have no concept of business and multiple fight contracts involving mandatory minimums.
It's ok. Maybe you'll pick up on that kind of stuff at some point. Arum didn't originally plan to have to pay Bradley that kind of money for that opponent. Do you even remember the beef they were having when Bradley was on the shelf? Arum complaining that Bradley was turning down the credible opponents until Chaves?
Hindsight. When fighters get massively overpaid, its almost always because of a hindsight miscalculation.

If you believe Arum ever wanted to pay Bradley 2M for a terrible opponent, I have a bridge for sale. You interested?

My example was to illustrate that there is no direct dependency between viewing numbers and purses. How are any reasons of Bradley getting 2M disprove that ??? Those reasons are exactly what breaks that direct dependency.