Pavlik vs hopkins final predictions

[jamesmcdonnell]

Pavlik on points, Bernard will just make it home. Pavlik doesn't have busted up hands, and is fresher and more aggresive than Calzaghe, and is big enough to make a dent in Bernard, he may even stop him late on by TKO with the referee intervening. Bernard was clearly gassing over the last four against Calzaghe, and had to cheat to buy some time, I think Pavlik will push him even harder and will hit him hard and often enough to win clearly by points if not stoppage.

[observer1]

Hopkins is 43. End of discussion.

he is good, but come on, he will slow down naturally in the end.

He is proved he is a legend by holding his own against Calzaghe and losing a debateble SD.

[Autobarn]

I personally think that the older spoiler version of Hopkins had/has a better chance of winning against Calzaghe and Pavlik than his younger, more aggressive incarnation. I think if either Calzaghe or Pavlik were to face a version of Hopkins who was more open to engaging, they'd have him outgunned.

It pisses me off when I hear people prattling on about Hopkins beating Joe had they met in their prime, I dont believe that for a second. I'm not saying Hopkins would have been KO'd or couldn't have made it close back then, but the boring counterpuncher he's become masks flaws and openings that may well have been there for fighters like Calzaghe (in particular) to exploit. To my mind, Hopkins performances against Trinidad, Tarver, Wright and Calzaghe were more effective than any of his fights in his prime, against lesser opposition.

Interesting point. I agree to an extent. By refusing to lead, Hopkins never shows his own weaknesses any more. He just shows other fighters' flaws. It would be really interesting if someone really - for instance - outsped him. Piled up a big points lead. Forcing Hopkins to initiate. We'd see him lunging forward with that nervy, lunging right lead, his feet out of position and open to counters.

Pavlik W12.

[Carbo]

Pavlik by late KO to finally end Hopkins's career. I expect he could make a visit to the met early though.

[kickyoasshot]

Pavlik wins by a close decision after rallying late. Hopkins causes him all sorts of problems before slowing in the later rounds. I still wouldn't be surprised if old B-Hop took the decision but do favour Pavlik. I don't think Kelly will be as effective at the heavier weight. Pavlik didn't look as good at the catch weight in the second Taylor fight as he did at 160.

[WildWaylon]

Not too sure about this fight. I would have to go with a points win for Pavlik by a couple of rounds.

I have to go along with you, dont think there will be much in it. Pavlik, younger, fresher will I think just do enough but may have to come back from a crisis on the canvas. Cannot see Pavlik getting the stoppage, so a narrow points victory seems the likely outcome.

[observer1]

Pavlik Points win.

Will be mixed in early rounds. But Hopkins age will finally catch up to him in the latter rounds, resulting in a win for Pavlik

[Max Molyneux]

Hopkins on points.

Pavlik's lack of world level experiance and defence will show.

[BAMBI]

I expect the younger, hungrier and most brutal attacking MW to win this by late TKO.
And i will not be 1 % surprised!

Hopkins is a legend, period.

[Wax On]

I thought there was good value in the odds on a Hopkins win (7/2) so I've lashed £30 on him. Think Pavlik deserves to be favourite, but Hopkins odds are way too big because of the hype around Kelly.

[Coco]

I'm expecting a similar fight to Calzaghe's, where Hopkins makes Pavlik look bad because he is fighting negatively, and ultimately Kelly will outwork him and win a hard fought but clear victory prob by 3 rounds
Pavlik is an enormous middleweight and will prove strong at the weight, but I think he will be bust up and B-Hop will be unmarked
I've put 75000 on boxpicks for a Pavlik points win

[Gray-Fox]

Hopkins by KO

[johnswan1]

Pavlik by come from behind unanimous decision.

[Twinkle Toes]

Pavlik in this one, he's going to make Hopkins work harder than Calzaghe managed.

Hopkins looked a tired fighter against Calzaghe, and he's resorting to James Toney type of defensive fighting which makes the actual winning of a fight very difficult.

Some perceive it as classy, I prefer to say they are just old and finished.

[Wrists]

For me: Hopkins by UD.

Pavlik is a machine but a machhine that at the moment can only work in one way. Jab, left, right, Jab, left, right.

You need more than that to beat B-Hop - Calzaghe had a little more savvy than Pavlik has at the mo and thats key.

For me, Hopkins beats Pavlik, as does Calzaghe.

Wrists

PS. If Hopkins does win will JC get a little more credit on this board especially saying as Pavlik has been built up on here as a monster??

[Max Molyneux]

Hopkins by KO

Wouldn't be surprising If he did Ko Kelly. He was hurt by Taylor who couldn't KO light middles

[MightyWarrior]

Here's hoping Pavlik puts an end to Hopkins boring the life out of everyone with a late stopage. Trouble is, Pavlik is not going to be too motivated here, as a win over ol man Hopkins does absolutely nothing for his rep - a stopage is what he needs really...

Pavlik wins by UD

[Carbo]

Here's hoping Pavlik puts an end to Hopkins boring the life out of everyone with a late stopage. Trouble is, Pavlik is not going to be too motivated here, as a win over ol man Hopkins does absolutely nothing for his rep - a stopage is what he needs really...

Pavlik wins by UD

Pavlik will be plenty motivated for his big PPV fight and official Entry to the Big Time Exam.

I'm surprised how many of you chaps have Hopkins. Pavlik is defensively weak, but Calzaghe had Hopkins on the edge of a stoppage, what's harder hitting, younger, more vigourous Pavlik going to do? Doubt me about being on the edge of a stoppage against Joe? What about all those breathers he awarded himself, and what about the complaining to the ref? They were outward signs of distress, and Hopkins could have gone if not for the bag o' tricks.

Of course, I don't think PAvlik could change his style mid fight, as Calzaghe did against Kessler, but I think he'll be able to be too active and too vigourous for old father time.

[Gazmac81]

ive got feeling hopkins will win this and then hopefully hang them up as one of the greats

if its very close then i think Pavlik will get it because hes the new kid on the block

If Pavlik does win though , then Joe calzaghe really should fight him

i think Joe would beat him

so put my neck out then Hopkins on Points

[overhand_right]

I think Pavlik is youth & strenght will help him survive those sneaky rights & overpower him.

[Carbo]

You know, the sneaky rights (leaning down and to the left to slip a punch and then thrown overhand back into the gap) pack a fair wallop when they land flush, but when was the last time they knocked someone out? Pavlik may have been dropped, but Miranda, whatever anyone says, was a destructive puncher, and the Taylor fight was as wild as they come. And you know what? Pavlik recovered fast on both occassions. In fact, I was reading today that PAvlik threw his fight high number of punches in the third after being knocked down and almost out in the second. That tells me he can survive a scare or two and use his youth and prodigious fitness to come on strong in the last few rounds and score a late KO, a la MArgarito.

[observer1]

Carbo, Hopkins is the crafty veteran and will do whatever it takes to win. Against Calzaghe he was trying to get a point taken away from Calzaghe and frustrate him. Of course he took the breaks when they came but at no stage did Calzaghe have him hurt or in any sort of trouble whatsoever in my opinion.

Calzaghe was the one who was dropped and shaken later on in the bout as well with a counter right hand. The type of right hand Pavlik will become aquainted with this saturday. And if it can drop Calzaghe and hurt him, it can certainly do the same to Pavlik. Remember, Hopkins almost won the Calzaghe fight on the cards and several people had him ahead. I wouldn't argue with a close Hopkins win on the cards to be honest due to the extra point on the knockdown.

Exactley. The fight could have easily gone to Hopkins.

However, i personally feel Hopkins won that fight, however, against Pavlik, i really feel it's going to be a sad spectacle

[Mensa07]

some predictions from fighters:
http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ik-result/

Joe Calzaghe
"Pavlik, who is he? He might get his butt kicked by Hopkins. But I think he will win the fight, mainly due to his youth. Hopkins still has the ability to make it very messy. Regardless, he is definitely over hyped.”

[Abbo]

I was ringside for Pavlik vs Taylor II, and thought it could have gone either way on the cards. I thought when Taylor was cute he flumoxed Pavlik a bit.

I think Hopkins could outpoint Pavlik, as I dont think KP will have the opportunity, nor the target, to throw 90/100 punches a round

[observer1]

i find it intresting many people feel Hopkins has a good chance.

I personally think Hopkins would have won even easy if it was 2-3 years ago. Now??
No..

Pavlik wins