title shot debut fight

adamheight · Post by **adamheight** » 07 Apr 2008, 03:18

does anyone know the name of the latino (mexican, puerto rican?) fighter who fought for a world title on his debut? i seem to remember it was in the 80's and the kid was around 18 or 19.
its really bugging me

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 07 Apr 2008, 03:44

Rafael Lovera.

Mimmy · Post by **Mimmy** » 07 Apr 2008, 04:30

did this guy have an inflated record when infact it was his pro debut. Would be interesting to see his ghost record.

adamheight · Post by **adamheight** » 07 Apr 2008, 04:39

cheers bennie

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 07 Apr 2008, 05:01

Yeah, it was a scandal. Estaba, at least, went on to prove himself a fabulous little champ.

adamheight · Post by **adamheight** » 07 Apr 2008, 05:48

turns out that lovera had a record of 20-1-1 according to the wbc when he got this shot...

according to this article his promoter was a bit of a cowboy and "fiddled" stuff now and again - on this occasion, his fighters "true" record

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ ... /index.htm

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 08 Apr 2008, 07:30

Lovera was a scandal (a gift of the WBC, like WBA, IBF or WBO)

On August 22, 1957, Olympic Champion Pete Rademacher, in his pro debut, was KO'ed by Floyd Patterson, 6, in Seattle, for the World Heavyweight Title

m1kee50 · Post by **m1kee50** » 08 Apr 2008, 11:45

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Lovera was a scandal (a gift of the WBC, like WBA, IBF or WBO)

On August 22, 1957, Olympic Champion Pete Rademacher, in his pro debut, was KO'ed by Floyd Patterson, 6, in Seattle, for the World Heavyweight Title

Martin, from the way you have written it that, it looks as if you are saying Floyd Patterson, aged 6, for the title..... get the IHOF on the phone, they need to open a new category.....

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 08 Apr 2008, 14:15

Hi, Matthews!

Your excelent humor make me happy and with a sonorous laugh! You are right, thanks! I remember the results in old issues of The Ring Magazine, as this: "Floyd Patterson kayoed Pete Rademacher, 6" In the boxing very old times, it could be "Johnny Smith stopped Smith Johnson, 99"; this Johnson, was an old man aged 99?

Thanks again, Matt!