Representation of draws

[Emaster]

Why is the result of the bout George Tahdooahnippah vs. James Cook an "MD" instead of a "PTS", which is the ususal result of bouts that were drawn (including majority draws)?

I originally linked to the description of the issue in the encyclopaedia.

[JCS]

The Wikie's not the place for that question.

I would assume MD in a Draw equates to a Majority Draw. Consistency isn't BoxRec's strongest attribute.

[stac]

fact but hey we try

[JCS]

Its just an inconsistency.... nothing more.

[Emaster]

Its just an inconsistency.... nothing more.

Then I suggest eliminating it .

[John]

A D-MD is a subset of D-PTS like a TKO is a subset of KO. It is not incorrect to use D-PTS it is just more precise to use D-MD.

[Emaster]

A D-MD is a subset of D-PTS like a TKO is a subset of KO. It is not incorrect to use D-PTS it is just more precise to use D-MD.

Some W-PTS results can also actually be W-xD results and do not necessarily mean that the referee was also judging the contest, but I assume the generic PTS will only be entered if the scores are unknown to BoxRec. The Donald vs. Austin decision is given as a generic D-PTS, though, despite the scores being known so that the subset D-MD could have been chosen. I propose being as specific as possible.

[JCS]

Could all be done with a simple query really.. but Emaster is being a bit of a stickler :)

[John]

Could all be done with a simple query really..

Would love to know how to code it so it changes the result when the points are correct but changes the points when the result is correct

[JCS]

Could all be done with a simple query really..

Would love to know how to code it so it changes the result when the points are correct but changes the points when the result is correct

Can't help you there.

[Emaster]

Steven Luevano's bout with Mario Santiago has ended in a split draw. The result is given as a generic D-PTS though the scores are known. If the software recognized that the result must be a D-SD based on the scores, it could be inserted automatically after having typed the scores in manually. Or isn't that technically possible or feasible?

[John]

Steven Luevano's latest bout has ended in a split draw. The result is given as a generic D-PTS though the scores are known. If the software recognized that the result must be a D-SD based on the scores, it could be inserted automatically after having typed the scores in manually. Or isn't that technically possible or feasible?

I don't think it is desirable to have an automatic correlation, often we get reports where the points and the decision conflict. It is not a good idea for the system to make assumptions.

[Emaster]

I don't think it is desirable to have an automatic correlation, often we get reports where the points and the decision conflict. It is not a good idea for the system to make assumptions.

Now I see what this quote means:

Would love to know how to code it so it changes the result when the points are correct but changes the points when the result is correct.

But do I get it right that conflicting data BoxRec receives will be entered into the database anyway? For instance, if three times 116-112 for fighter A results in a surprising SD according to the supplier of the data, they will still be fed into the database? Or will they be checked? I've never seen something like that in BoxRec though.

[JCS]

But do I get it right that conflicting data BoxRec receives will be entered into the database anyway? For instance, if three times 116-112 for fighter A results in a surprising SD according to the supplier of the data, they will still be fed into the database? Or will they be checked? I've never seen something like that in BoxRec though.

That would surely be entered as a UD.... The whole Draw subtype is a moot point and not worth fooling with IMO.

[Emaster]

But do I get it right that conflicting data BoxRec receives will be entered into the database anyway? For instance, if three times 116-112 for fighter A results in a surprising SD according to the supplier of the data, they will still be fed into the database? Or will they be checked? I've never seen something like that in BoxRec though.

That would surely be entered as a UD.

If I got JohnShep right, it wouldn't as the SD may be correct while the scores may be false.

[John]

If I got JohnShep right, it wouldn't as the SD may be correct while the scores may be not. I'm interested in what is done in such a case and discussing such stuff. At the same time I know that I'm not entitled to get answers as they cost my fellow users time and effort.

We report exactly what we are sent but try to get amendments when the reports are self contradictory. A lot of commissions will check into it for us but some just send out the reports and don't have the time/inclination to answer queries.

[scottmallon]

Steven Luevano's latest bout has ended in a split draw. The result is given as a generic D-PTS though the scores are known. If the software recognized that the result must be a D-SD based on the scores, it could be inserted automatically after having typed the scores in manually. Or isn't that technically possible or feasible?

We don't need to reinvent the wheel - it's a draw, period. Regardless of the score - it's a DRAW! The scores do not make a bit of difference.