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Expug wrote:Two weeks from today gents.
You guys need anything from Chicago?
Maybe a case of OldStyle?
Some deep dish?
Ya think they will get pissed at me at the airport if I bring Beer and pizza through security?
Here's how you do it, Pug. Have "Uncle John", run interference for you. Make sure he's behind you in line. When they see him, they'll look right past you and you're home free. When they frsik U.J., all they will find is a little change, lint, an Irish Lottery ticket in his pockets. Then on to the banquet. Really looking forward to meeting you, Brian!!

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You too Rick.
Im really looking forward to this.
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kikibalt wrote:by Marc Abrams on 30 October 2008

LEGENDARY TRAINER ANGELO DUNDEE JOINS TEAM DE LA HOYA AS SPECIAL CONSULTANT FOR PACQUIAO SUPERFIGHT

LOS ANGELES, October 30 - As the architect for some of the greatest fighters of all-time, including Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and George Foreman, Angelo Dundee’s name is synonymous with excellence. Now, the legendary trainer will look to impart his wisdom on boxing’s reigning superstar - Oscar de la Hoya - as a special consultant for the “Golden Boy” for his December 6th super-fight with Manny Pacquiao.

Dundee joins world-renowned trainer Ignacio “Nacho” Beristain on Team De La Hoya for the showdown, which will take place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. Tickets for the bout are sold-out, but the event will air live on HBO Pay-Per-View beginning at 9pm ET / 6pm PT and closed circuit tickets are available at MGM-Mirage properties in Las Vegas.

“I am honored to have Angelo Dundee on my team for the biggest fight of my career,” said De La Hoya. “His knowledge of the fight game is second to none, and along with Nacho Beristain, I feel like I have an unbeatable team in my corner for this fight against Pacquiao.”

Dundee will review fight tapes, consult with Team De La Hoya regarding technique and strategy, visit training camp in Big Bear, California and attend fight week events. While he will consult with De La Hoya and Beristain regarding fight strategy, he will not be working the corner during the fight, leaving Beristain as the lead strategist and sole voice in the corner on fight night.

“After working with Ali and Leonard, I think it’s only fitting that I now get the chance to work with the most important fighter of this era,” said Dundee. “This fight against Pacquiao is the biggest fight boxing has seen in years and I’m excited to be a part of it and to help lead Oscar to victory.”

A 1994 inductee to the International Boxing Hall of Fame, Angelo Dundee has been a fixture in the boxing world for most of his life and is one of the game’s most revered ambassadors. In the ring, he has worked with 15 world champions, including Ali, Leonard, Foreman, Carmen Basilio, Jose Napoles, Luis Rodriguez and Willie Pastrano. Now he will take “The Golden Boy” under his wing.

Promoted by Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank, Inc., presented by Tequila Cazadores and sponsored by Ceverza Tecate, DeWalt Tools, Full Throttle Energy Drink, and Southwest Airlines, the fight sold out in hours, making it the second largest grossing gate in boxing history. This exciting and intriguing 12-round, 147-pound welterweight battle pits two of the most recognizable and popular talents in the sport in what will surely be the grand finale of the 2008 boxing calendar year.
'Ol Oscar should run for office. He's got HBO saying that he's the most popular fighter around. Then Oscar says he's in the best shape of his life. He's hungrier now than he's ever been. And now he has Angelo working with him. Mayweather's old man,Freddie Roach,Emmanuel Stewart,now Angelo. The biggest win on his record was an old Julio Cesar.
I ain't putting up no scratch to watch Oscar anymore. If I watch the fight,I'll go to the Coahuila and watch it at the Caliente Sports Book. I don't know how I'll bet it,but Oscar has made me some dough in the past. By losing.

If he loses again,I'll take my winnings to the Boom Boom Club and set the bar up. Somehow spending the money I win on Oscar being a dud and then throwing it around a cantina seems fitting.

I hope Pac out works Oscar and busts him up a bit, leaving a few marks on his pretty face, just to remind him that his greed motivated him in the wrong direction. It's all about Oscar. He wins when he loses, no problem, but I do want him to lose, more so, I would love to see him embarrassed. I respect DLH a lot. I have no reason to dislike the guy, he's from L.A., one of the best of his era. Sadly, he turns his events into side shows, and it's time he leave. Pac is the real deal, he's giving up all the edges here, that's why I want him to win. And I like Freddie Roach one helluva lot better than I do Dundee. Angelo is a guy who really cashed in on the legend of Ali. I think he's full of the BS that fares so well in DLH fights these days.

-Rick
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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Did Beristain train Miguel Canto?
I maybe wrong, but I don't think so.
Jesus Rivero managed and trained Miguel Canto thruout most of his career.

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THE SHOWMAN

"DiFillippis had a nice card tinight," I said to my pal Ron.
"First time I'd been to a pro fight."
"You enjoyed it?"
"Let's go again."
The banquet room at the 4 Points Sheraton was just big enough so if you had a general admission ticket,you were close enough to see and hear all the action.
"You know that Bobby D. guy,the promotor?",asked Ron.
"No,but his father promoted the fights and I think he had a brother named Roy who fought at the Coliseum."
As we walked to the parking lot,I noticed that Boobby D. was walking out to his car with the old gentleman he introduced as Johnny"The Bandit" Romero. The old guy was using a walker.He had fought Archie Moore a few times in the 30's. It was supposedly for local bragging rights.
"That old guy Romero,"I said pointing towards him across the parking lot. "Christ,he must be over 90 years old."
"I don't think many knew who he was,"said Ron.
"Well Bobby D. was sure nice to have the old guy here. I got a picture of him. I'll send it to BoxRec."
"What kind of promotor was this guy's dad?"
"A showman,like his son."

Today,for the fun of it,I looked up Johnny,"The Bandit" Romero's record on the BoxRec site. Said he died in 1978. Yeah,Bobby D. Is quite a showman.
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dagosd2000 wrote:THE SHOWMAN

"DiFillippis had a nice card tinight," I said to my pal Ron.
"First time I'd been to a pro fight."
"You enjoyed it?"
"Let's go again."
The banquet room at the 4 Points Sheraton was just big enough so if you had a general admission ticket,you were close enough to see and hear all the action.
"You know that Bobby D. guy,the promotor?",asked Ron.
"No,but his father promoted the fights and I think he had a brother named Roy who fought at the Coliseum."
As we walked to the parking lot,I noticed that Boobby D. was walking out to his car with the old gentleman he introduced as Johnny"The Bandit" Romero. The old guy was using a walker.He had fought Archie Moore a few times in the 30's. It was supposedly for local bragging rights.
"That old guy Romero,"I said pointing towards him across the parking lot. "Christ,he must be over 90 years old."
"I don't think many knew who he was,"said Ron.
"Well Bobby D. was sure nice to have the old guy here. I got a picture of him. I'll send it to BoxRec."
"What kind of promotor was this guy's dad?"
"A showman,like his son."

Today,for the fun of it,I looked up Johnny,"The Bandit" Romero's record on the BoxRec site. Said he died in 1978. Yeah,Bobby D. Is quite a showman.

Roger, you know we in L.A. got a good look at Roy DeFillipis in the late 60's. I have clear memories of his Olympic Auditorium fights, the late 60's. What became of him? What you hear about Bobby Valdez? These are important fighters to L.A. as much as San Diego. I don't care how many fights I see, my memory of L.A.'s "Fight of the "Year" in 1967, between Valdez and Dwight Hawkins, a "draw", will always be right at the top.

-Rick Farris
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CHARLIE LEAPS IN

Genius is often born in the bowels of degragation. Boxing,a sport originating here in America with slaves fighting "Battle Royals" until the the last man is standing is the winner,is an example of something that began monstrous into a savage art form. No,you can't go in the ring now like a crazed maniac and expect to be a champion. You have to practice and condition the skills to be a World class fighter.

The same with music. Jazz music. Something primitive to begin with evolved into an American original art form. You can't just pound on a drum. You have to know the keys,the channels,and the changes to all the songs. And you have to play music.

We look at films of Ray Robinson and we see more than a prize fighter. We see something beautifull that makes us stop to admire. We can't take our eyes off him. A sport that was germinated on slave plantations is now showcased fat the the most magnificant sports palaces in the world.

I was captured by the sound of another genius. A genius of music. Jazz music. An American original. Charlie Parker. I bought everything he ever recorded or was recorded of him. Many of his followers would go to see him play in clubs and bring their tape recorders with them. Often they would only record his solos. About 30 years ago someone found an old tape recording of Parker when he played in Harlem at the Rockland Palace. The event was to raise money for a socialist politician. Parker played,as the historians have put together, two gigs.One with the quartet,the other with strings. This fellow went both nights with his tape recorder to have a lasting memory of Charlie Parker.

Parker had no political preferences. He played because he got paid. And with that money he could buy heroin. Jazz originated in the "Storyville" district of New Orleans. The red light area. Louie Armstrong grew up there. Charlie Parker who honed his teeth in the back alleys of Pendergast's Kansas City,a 30's rendition of "Storyville" became the 20th century genius of his music. Invited to Europe,played for classical composeres like Bartok and Hindemith,Parker was a product of prostitutes,pimps,winos,drug dealers,and gangsters. The genius amongst the ill fated.

Ray Robinson at Yankee Stadium. Charlie Parker at Carnegie Hall. Low Life combined with the aristocracy. Charlie Parker playing "Lester Lesps In" at the Rockland Palace in Harlem in 1951. Only a few more years left before the fire would extinguish at the Baroness's apartment at the Stanhope Hotel. Charlie would always play one the other musicians couldn't keep up with. The other soloists would just sit down a fill their souls with his virtuosity. The Heifetz of the alto. "Lester Lesps In" was recoreded. Unequaled for tantamount exhibitionism. The greatest cadenza. The greatest jazz solo. And we can hear it because some guy,a fan,went to the Rockland Palce in Harlem in 1951 with his tape recorder. How many others went to see Parker play and left the tape recorder home?
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Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:THE SHOWMAN

"DiFillippis had a nice card tinight," I said to my pal Ron.
"First time I'd been to a pro fight."
"You enjoyed it?"
"Let's go again."
The banquet room at the 4 Points Sheraton was just big enough so if you had a general admission ticket,you were close enough to see and hear all the action.
"You know that Bobby D. guy,the promotor?",asked Ron.
"No,but his father promoted the fights and I think he had a brother named Roy who fought at the Coliseum."
As we walked to the parking lot,I noticed that Boobby D. was walking out to his car with the old gentleman he introduced as Johnny"The Bandit" Romero. The old guy was using a walker.He had fought Archie Moore a few times in the 30's. It was supposedly for local bragging rights.
"That old guy Romero,"I said pointing towards him across the parking lot. "Christ,he must be over 90 years old."
"I don't think many knew who he was,"said Ron.
"Well Bobby D. was sure nice to have the old guy here. I got a picture of him. I'll send it to BoxRec."
"What kind of promotor was this guy's dad?"
"A showman,like his son."

Today,for the fun of it,I looked up Johnny,"The Bandit" Romero's record on the BoxRec site. Said he died in 1978. Yeah,Bobby D. Is quite a showman.

Roger, you know we in L.A. got a good look at Roy DeFillipis in the late 60's. I have clear memories of his Olympic Auditorium fights, the late 60's. What became of him? What you hear about Bobby Valdez? These are important fighters to L.A. as much as San Diego. I don't care how many fights I see, my memory of L.A.'s "Fight of the "Year" in 1967, between Valdez and Dwight Hawkins, a "draw", will always be right at the top.

-Rick Farris
More on DeFillippis . . .

I still remember this guys fights with rugged Rene Macias at the Olympic. And his two KO's over my stablemate, Rod Contreras. Rod is a guy who was right on the edge with best of L.A., but he had some bad luck. I'll never forget watching Contreras completely dominate former Jr. Lightweight king Hiroshi Kobayashi, at the Main St. Gym. Roy D. of S.D. was a good fighter. Wasn't around long.

-Rick
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Rick Farris wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:THE SHOWMAN

"DiFillippis had a nice card tinight," I said to my pal Ron.
"First time I'd been to a pro fight."
"You enjoyed it?"
"Let's go again."
The banquet room at the 4 Points Sheraton was just big enough so if you had a general admission ticket,you were close enough to see and hear all the action.
"You know that Bobby D. guy,the promotor?",asked Ron.
"No,but his father promoted the fights and I think he had a brother named Roy who fought at the Coliseum."
As we walked to the parking lot,I noticed that Boobby D. was walking out to his car with the old gentleman he introduced as Johnny"The Bandit" Romero. The old guy was using a walker.He had fought Archie Moore a few times in the 30's. It was supposedly for local bragging rights.
"That old guy Romero,"I said pointing towards him across the parking lot. "Christ,he must be over 90 years old."
"I don't think many knew who he was,"said Ron.
"Well Bobby D. was sure nice to have the old guy here. I got a picture of him. I'll send it to BoxRec."
"What kind of promotor was this guy's dad?"
"A showman,like his son."

Today,for the fun of it,I looked up Johnny,"The Bandit" Romero's record on the BoxRec site. Said he died in 1978. Yeah,Bobby D. Is quite a showman.

Roger, you know we in L.A. got a good look at Roy DeFillipis in the late 60's. I have clear memories of his Olympic Auditorium fights, the late 60's. What became of him? What you hear about Bobby Valdez? These are important fighters to L.A. as much as San Diego. I don't care how many fights I see, my memory of L.A.'s "Fight of the "Year" in 1967, between Valdez and Dwight Hawkins, a "draw", will always be right at the top.

-Rick Farris
Rick
The next time I go to another of Bobby D's. cards I'm going to ask him ,or someone who knows ,about the fellas'you mentioned. Bobby Valdez was a real technician in the ring. The first guy who caught my eye in person. Like I say, next time I'll try to dig out some more on what's happening with those old timers. Christ ,I'm as old as they are.

BTW,I'm curious to know who that old guy was with Bobby D.
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Everytime they set the clock back and "gain" an hour ,I get more tired. Hell,when it gets dark I start to shut down. I never was a night owl.
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Over 160 murders in Tijuana in the month of October. Tijuana police have arrested Eduardo Arellano Felix, the head of the Arellano Felix cartel in Tijuana. Now it's gotten worse. The Tijuana cartel has lost its leader and the Sinaloan cartel,which is fighting for control of drug trafficking in TJ,is making their move. The Arellano Felix cartel is swearing vengence if Eduardo is not released. Women and children are targeted . I'm not letting my wife go there alone anymore.
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Just in. 11 polceman were killed in Mexico City today.
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Rick Farris wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:Did Beristain train Miguel Canto?
I maybe wrong, but I don't think so.
Jesus Rivero managed and trained Miguel Canto thruout most of his career.

-Rick Farris
Jesus Rivero. I'm pretty sure he trained Oscar for the first Chavez fight. God knows why Colgate got rid of him.
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dagosd2000 wrote:Over 160 murders in Tijuana in the month of October. Tijuana police have arrested Eduardo Arellano Felix, the head of the Arellano Felix cartel in Tijuana. Now it's gotten worse. The Tijuana cartel has lost its leader and the Sinaloan cartel,which is fighting for control of drug trafficking in TJ,is making their move. The Arellano Felix cartel is swearing vengence if Eduardo is not released. Women and children are targeted . I'm not letting my wife go there alone anymore.

MEXICO UNDER SIEGE
Police capture key drug suspect

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‘EL DOCTOR’ IS IN CUSTODY: Eduardo Arellano Felix, right, is escorted by a police officer. Arellano Felix was a key figure in the early years of a once-powerful cartel.
Eduardo Arellano Felix, an original member of a notorious cartel, is nabbed after a shootout in Tijuana.

By Richard Marosi
October 27, 2008

Reporting from San Diego -- One of Mexico's most-wanted drug trafficking suspects was captured Saturday night at his Tijuana home after a fierce shootout with authorities, providing some good news amid the border city's raging drug war.

Eduardo Arellano Felix, an original member of the notorious Arellano Felix drug cartel, was arrested in an operation by more than 100 federal and state police officers and soldiers, according to U.S. and Mexican officials. They were acting on a tip supplied by U.S. authorities, who had offered up to $5 million for information leading to the arrest of Arellano Felix, said Eileen Zeidler, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

Arellano Felix was a key figure in the early years of the cartel, which grew into one of Mexico's most powerful organized crime groups by smuggling tons of cocaine into the U.S., starting in the late 1980s.

The cartel has been decimated in recent years by arrests and killings, including the capture and deaths of four siblings of Arellano Felix.

The suspected kingpin had been in hiding for several years and was living at his home under an assumed name, authorities said.

"He was the last of the brothers. This was another significant blow to what's left of the Arellano Felix organization," Zeidler said.

The U.S. attorney's office in San Diego named Arellano Felix in a 2003 indictment that accused him and 10 cartel associates of racketeering, drug trafficking, money laundering and several killings.

No injuries were reported in the shootout. The suspect was flown to Mexico City after his arrest, and U.S. authorities will seek his extradition.

The Mexican government claimed a major victory in its offensive against the country's organized crime groups. Facundo Rosas, deputy minister for strategy and police intelligence, described Arellano Felix as a "historic and moral figure in the Tijuana cartel" at a news conference in Mexico City.

But some experts and U.S. officials said his role in the organization had diminished in recent years and it was unclear whether his capture would have much of an effect.

Arellano Felix, nicknamed El Doctor because he was once a medical student, took a much lower profile after the 1993 killing of Guadalajara Archbishop Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo, which was blamed on cartel gunmen.

"That was a very pivotal moment in how the Arellanos were perceived in Tijuana and in Mexico in general," said John Kirby, a former federal prosecutor who co-wrote the original indictment against several of the Arellano Felix brothers and associates.

"All of a sudden everybody was their enemy," Kirby said.

Though he became somewhat of a recluse, Arellano Felix became a mentor for the current leader of the cartel, his nephew, Fernando Sanchez Arellano, who is under attack by rivals inside and outside the organization, Zeidler said.

The drug war has claimed more than 150 lives in Tijuana since late September, and federal authorities have been criticized for not sending enough federal agents and troops to quell the violence.

President Felipe Calderon's anti-drug offensive seems to have stalled in recent months, with violence flaring across the country and some critics questioning his commitment.

Tijuana Mayor Jorge Ramos, who has criticized the federal government in the past, hailed the arrest, saying it was the kind of action the city had been waiting for. "The message is clear. . . . There is nobody that can escape the law," Ramos told reporters in Tijuana.

Marosi is a Times staff writer.

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dagosd2000 wrote:Just in. 11 polceman were killed in Mexico City today.
Most-wanted Mexico drug trafficker is found everywhere

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SEIZED: Peruvian Interior Minister Luis Alva Castro, second from right, is shown in September checking out the shipment of 2.5 tons of cocaine seized by the authorities and stored in Lima. Official sources said the shipment belonged to Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel and was headed for Europe.

Sightings, real or not, of Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman are reported often, and the kingpin always manages to stay one step ahead of Mexican and U.S. law officials.

By Tracy Wilkinson
November 3, 2008

Reporting from Culiacan, Mexico -- He appears in a restaurant, picks up everyone's tab, then vanishes with his many guards. He stars in his wedding, government officials among the guests. He is captured, then released. Twice.

Or maybe not.

Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Mexico's most-wanted drug-trafficking fugitive, chalks up more sightings than Elvis. He is everywhere, and nowhere, a long-sought criminal always a step ahead of the law, yet always in sight or mind.

A mythology has developed around Guzman, the commander of Mexico's most powerful narcotics network, the so-called Sinaloa cartel, named for the Pacific coast state that is the historic cradle of Mexican drug trafficking. Narcocorridos, popular songs about traffickers, lionize him.

Whether any of his reported exploits -- the brash strutting, the narrow escapes -- actually happened is almost beside the point. They add to the mystique around a man who, though reviled and feared by most Mexicans, is admired by the loyal cadres dedicated to tending, processing and transporting marijuana, opium poppy or cocaine.


U.S. authorities have placed a $5-million bounty on Guzman's head, accusing him of smuggling tons of cocaine over the border.

And yet El Chapo is still at large.

In the old style of swaggering kingpins, Guzman cultivated support in his native Sinaloa by handing out money and favors to hardworking villagers. There is little doubt that those villagers now help hide him and alert him to the presence of soldiers or police.

"He is very agile and, of the kingpins, is the one who moves around the least," said Ismael Bojorquez, editor of the newspaper Riodoce in Culiacan, the capital of Sinaloa. "He has a natural space for operating." That space is the so-called Golden Triangle: a desolate patch between Culiacan and neighboring Durango and Chihuahua states.

A more fundamental explanation for Chapo's elusiveness, however, could be that few have the political will to catch him.

"He cannot survive without the support of the state, its institutions, police or army," Bojorquez said. "That's obvious."

A reported sighting

Riodoce published an account of one of the legendary Guzman sightings at a restaurant in Culiacan late last year: A group of men entered Las Palmas, a lime-green eatery with an ersatz tile roof on a busy street. They cased the joint, then ordered everyone in the crowded room to remain seated and to hand over their cellphones. Guzman made his entrance. He went from table to table, greeting and shaking hands with the diners before retiring to a private room, where he ate his favorite meal of steak and other red-meat dishes. He departed with less of a flair, discreetly exiting through a back door. Customers discovered their bills had been paid.

Later, the restaurant's proprietors denied that Guzman had been there.

A story that surfaced this year in Ciudad Juarez, a city in Chihuahua across the U.S. border from El Paso, had the same elements: the cellphones confiscated, the tabs paid.

Guzman's appearance at the red-stucco Aroma Restaurant in Juarez was especially provocative because the city is headquarters to a rival drug organization that Guzman has been trying to supplant.

A short time later, even as the Aroma's managers insisted that Guzman was never there, the restaurant was torched.

Guzman, 51, has close-set eyes and stands about 5 feet 6, earning him his widely known nickname "El Chapo," Spanish for "Shorty."

Last year, he reportedly married his third wife, Emma, on the summer day she turned 18. Local officials attended the wedding, the stories go, and a local military commander set up security for the event in an isolated mountain village deep in the Triangle.

There have been other reports widely circulated in Mexico that Guzman was detained by police twice in the last few years but then allowed to slip away. A senior government official said that on another occasion troops reached his hide-out minutes after he apparently fled; food on a table was still hot.

Building an empire

Guzman got his start as a lieutenant and air logistics manager for Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, the spiritual godfather of today's cartels. After Felix Gallardo's arrest in 1989, Guzman inherited some of Felix Gallardo's territory and began building an empire that is probably the country's largest cocaine smuggling operation.

A significant part of the violence that is jolting Mexico involves Guzman's henchmen in turf wars with other criminal networks. The most far-reaching internal feud came when Guzman's long-trusted aides, the Beltran Leyva brothers, broke with him early this year. In May, gunmen killed Guzman's son, Edgar, and war between the rivals escalated.

U.S. officials insist that Guzman's network of support will eventually fail as President Felipe Calderon presses a 2-year-long offensive against the drug networks that have seized control of parts of the country, and as those organizations duke it out among themselves for diminishing territory.

In fact, one senior U.S. law enforcement official said, Guzman may fear death at the hands of rival dealers more than at the hands of authorities.

"The narcos are far less forgiving than some police," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity for his safety. "There is not an occasion where a major trafficker doesn't try to bribe his way out of jail."

Bribery has worked for Guzman. He was captured in Guatemala in 1993 and transferred to a maximum security prison in Mexico, where he proceeded to regularly receive lovers and direct his drug business from behind prison walls. Until he got tired of the life. Eight years after his incarceration, he paid guards to smuggle him out of the prison in a laundry truck.

Wilkinson is a Times staff writer.

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kikibalt wrote:Presidential cars then and now
John F. Kennedy (1961-1963): 1961 Ford Thunderbird Convertible

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This was the first year of the Thunderbird's much sleeker “Bullet Bird” styling. It held the dual honors that year -- it was the Indianapolis 500 pace car and 50 of the '61 T-Birds were driven in JFK's inaugural parade. (It probably helped that Ford executive Robert McNamara was named secretary of Defense.)
THE STROKE
John Kennedy's old man pulled a lot of strings to get his son in the Oval Office. He got the union vote,including Jimmy Hoffa's Teamsters to vote Democratic. The Mob would get their usual pass with J. Edgar as head of the FBI. The oil companies would still keep 24% of their profits from being taxed by the government. Allen Dulles would be able to implement the Cuban refugee invasion of Cuba. The military would be sending more "advisors" to Vietnam. Lyndon Johnson would be the Vice Presidential running mate. All the above directed by "'Ol Joe Kennedy. The "Doc" Kearns of Presidential dads.

Then December,1961. Joe Kennedy has a stroke. He's virtually a vegetable. All the promises would now be broken. No more tax breaks for the oil companies. Allen Dulles would be fired as the chief of the CIA. Bobby Kennedy would go after the Mob and Jimmy Hoffa. Hoover was going to be replaced. Advisors would be pulled out of Nam. And last but not least,LBJ would be kicked off the ticket in '64. He,along with Bobby Baker,be charged with criminal acts. Yeah,John and Bobby wanted to do it their way now.

If Old Man Kennedy wouldn't have had the stroke,his son wouldn't have been shot to death in Dallas. Oh,that shooting. The lone nut. Is there anyone out there that would like to buy prime real estate property on the moon from me?
I'm not interested in making a real estate purchase from you, but I do believe that all the available evidence points to Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone gunman who assassinated JFK.
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What's all this, then, election fever? :wink:
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Could be, Bennie. Sadly, one group of Americans loses all common sense during the American presidential election season. We call that group "Democrats" . . . :oo :wink: :oo :wink:
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Excuse my British ignorance, Ray, while I google 'democrats' to see who stands for them.

I honestly haven't got a clue.
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Barack Obama, by the look of it (and I admit I just cut and pasted his name). John McCain wants to clean up boxing, they say.


They say a lot of things...
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