Hypothetical Match-Up Game

[Poncey]

Pacquiao RSF 10 after Corrales is floored 4 times.

Duran (78) v Pryor (82) at 140?

[boxerbob]

duran wins unam decision 8-7 9-6 9-6...no magic bottle for the hawk this time

how about.....

tyson "86" vs lewis "99"

[observer1]

duran wins unam decision 8-7 9-6 9-6...no magic bottle for the hawk this time

how about.....

tyson "86" vs lewis "99"

imo, Tyson wins by Stoppage in Middle Rounds.

Would be quite close, since a 1988 Tyson would be far more effective, however, i still give the edge to Tyson here. Lewis will probably look to box defensivley and use his height. But sooner or later Tyson would get inside and get some Combo's in. Which will take their toll. Lewis's Suspect Chin will soon probably be hit clean.

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David Haye v Henry cooper at Cruiserweight, Both in their Prime.

[harrygreb]

haye comes out and starts throwing bombs, cooper is rocked but stays on his feet..just. in the 2nd haye looks to the uppercut to dislodge henry. has success with this idea and cooper is cut badly over the right eye. he takes a big left from haye and goes down just as the round comes to an end. the bell saves cooper. during the break henry notices a slight tear in his glove. his manager jim wicks sees it too. they look at the split glove and back at each other. cooper raises his bloodied eyebrow and wicks puts his finger into the damaged leather. while this is going on, a world famous plastic surgeon is working on cooper's ripped skin tissue and effects an excellent repair. round 3 cooper comes out and with now clear vision and a great sense of irony he stiffs haye with a terrific left hook.

cooper wins by KO but years of argument rages over the time it took to get henry ready for the fateful 3rd round.

prime jose napoles v floyd mayweather

[Goodnight, Irene]

Superb match. 50-50 at Welter, IMO. I'm going to stab in the dark & give a decision to Napoles.

Sven Ottke (2001) vs. Kelly Pavlik (Current) at Super-Middle...

[harrygreb]

sven wins a wide decision over pavlik who is now finding that his true level is just off world class.

pat cowdell v injin chi

[My2Sense]

pat cowdell v injin chi

Close, tough fight early, but I think Chi breaks him down with pressure and body shots and stops him late.


Next up: Ike Williams vs. Julio Cesar Chavez.

[theone]

Chavez eats alot of power shots but smothers Williams against the ropes throughout most of the fight; battering him with hellacious non stop body shots. Chavez grinds out a hardworking decision; Ike pisses blood for 3 days.

Buddy Mcgirt vs. Miguel Cotto...jr welter or welter.

[AngryGoon38]

McGirt wins at 140-Relatively close but UD.

Cotto wins at 147-Clear cut UD.


Carmen Basilio vs Miguel Cotto at 147

12 Rounds

[Goodnight, Irene]

You're a heartless bastard to wanna see this one

Basilio outclasses Cotto, who does nothing better outside of going backward, en route to a ninth-round stoppage. Cotto would absolutely beg the referee to stop it. Unfortunately, the ref in this case is none other than boxing's only third man with a fan club, Jaye Nady, who is much distracted by those supporters at ringside, slowing his intervention as Cotto struggles to stay on his feet.

Go, Jaye! D

Aaron Pryor (23-0) vs. 2002 Joel Casamayor at Lightweight, over twelve rounds...

[m1kee50]

So Pryor in the era of the Cervantes fight, and Casamayor around the time of the Freitas loss?
Seeing as Pryor's fight was at 140 and Casamayor at the time was competing at 130, I'm going to say that the Cuban record-breaker can't deal with the Hawks natural power and gets stopped late on.

My go:

Cruiserweight:
James Toney (2003, the Jirov fight) VS David Haye (2007, the Mormeck fight)

[Goodnight, Irene]

I'll take Toney on decision. Haye is a guy I think is certainly going places, & for that, he lasts the distance against the surprisingly effective Cruiser version of Toney (who lacked the same impact at Light-Heavy).

This, I'd pay anything to see...

The Explosive Thin Man vs. Pacman at Featherweight. Fifteen rounds, gents

[Datsue]

I'll take Toney on decision. Haye is a guy I think is certainly going places, & for that, he lasts the distance against the surprisingly effective Cruiser version of Toney (who lacked the same impact at Light-Heavy).

This, I'd pay anything to see...

The Explosive Thin Man vs. Pacman at Featherweight. Fifteen rounds, gents

Clash of the 'tashes! Two wonderful 1970's porn star top-lip hiders in this one!

Pac at 126lbs was outbox-able (is that a word?). Like in the first Morales fight, Pac has trouble with the height, reach, jab & straight right hand. Hammers Arguello late on in some awesome exchanges, but doesn't do enough to get the nod. Arguello on something like a 9-6 decision in a fantastic fight.

How about...

Archie Moore vs Joe Calzaghe, 175 lbs, 15 rounds? I know who I'd pick, almost in an instant, but what about you guys?

[Goodnight, Irene]

^^^Give us a match, Datsue

[Datsue]

Fixed. Sorry!

[Goodnight, Irene]

I have to take Moore, on a clean-cut, 10-count KO in six. Calzaghe shows up for the fight of his life, & his fast hands keep him even on the cards, until Moore slips through with a fusillade of thumping blows. The devastation would be as convincing as Jackson-Graham.

Corrales vs. Tszyu at 140lbs, circa 2005...

[Jaywheel]

What a matchup! IMO it could go either way but I think that by 2005, even a 140 lbs Corrales would have been too much for KT. He was already a big 135 lbs. Chico TKO 9.

McCallum vs LaMotta prime for prime

[harrygreb]

mccallum was never destroyed in a glorious careeer but lamotta does it here. in 6 rounds of textbook carnage with thumbs, elbows, low blows, stepping on feet all on parade in this unbelievably brilliant performance. in with the ruff stuff he shows us intelligence, how to cut off the ring, forceful jabbing, body shots that the bodysnatcher can only dream about and finally an aggresive attack with both hands that leaves the referee no option but to save mike from a fate worse that death. jake in awesome mood.

juan manuel marquez v vincente saldivar

[Goodnight, Irene]

Good mention of the under-appreciated Salvidar (I believe we'll be saying the same thing of Marquez, one day).

Salvidar boxes & bangs his way to a 12th-round corner stoppage. Great fight to watch, as Marquez adapts slowly after a poor start, ala Pacquiao in '04, before falling short in the latter two rounds as he takes a battering.

I'm stretching the limits of size, here, almost to the point where I was going to make this a pound-for-pound clash, but what the hell...

Salvador Sanchez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez, over 15 Rounds at 130lbs!

[AngryGoon38]

Good mention of the under-appreciated Salvidar (I believe we'll be saying the same thing of Marquez, one day).

Salvidar boxes & bangs his way to a 12th-round corner stoppage. Great fight to watch, as Marquez adapts slowly after a poor start, ala Pacquiao in '04, before falling short in the latter two rounds as he takes a battering.

I'm stretching the limits of size, here, almost to the point where I was going to make this a pound-for-pound clash, but what the hell...

Salvador Sanchez vs. Julio Cesar Chavez, over 15 Rounds at 130lbs!

Sanchez wins by SD.Awesome Fight.Chavez ahead after 12 but Sanchez rallies and steals the 14th and 15th.
13th is an even round,which winds up as being One of the best back and forth exchanges in boxing history.
Both boxers REALLY load up and land over 50 power punches apiece.Sanchez has just a smidge more for the 14th and 15th to enable 2 of the judges to rule him a winner by 1 point apiece.

Next Up:(Tripleheader)

Emile Griffith(1961 version) vs Sugar Ray Leonard(1979 version)
15 Rounds


Kid Gavilan(1953 version) vs Floyd Mayweather jr(2007 version)
12 Rounds

Jose Napoles(1972 version) vs Wilfredo Benitez(1979 version)
15 Rounds




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[My2Sense]

Next Up:(Tripleheader)

Emile Griffith(1961 version) vs Sugar Ray Leonard(1979 version)
15 Rounds


Kid Gavilan(1953 version) vs Floyd Mayweather jr(2007 version)
12 Rounds

Jose Napoles(1972 version) vs Wilfredo Benitez(1979 version)
15 Rounds




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Hey, you cheated!



Anyway, my picks:

1) Leonard's slight edge in footwork and versatility gives him the edge against Griffith. Leonard by split decision.

2) Gavilan a bit too much for Mayweather. He can match his speed and skill, plus he's the bigger, rangier man and even has more power at the weight. A competitive fight, but Gavvy wins a clear decision.

3) The toughest of all these fights to call IMO. There's a few ways I could see this going, but I'll put up this scenerio: Napoles, behind on points and bleeding, finally tires Benitez out with his constant movement and pressure, and surges on in the championship rounds to stop him.


Next up: Carmen Basilio vs. Donald Curry.

[Counter-puncher]

Basilio ends up running Curry over like a truck in the 12th round, overcoming cuts and swelling over both eyes, too strong, too tough, knows too much for Curry to keep him off.

Next: Erik Morales vs Eusebio Pedrosa at 126lbs

[Goodnight, Irene]

Morales & Pedroza fight a scintillating battle, with the twelveth stanza winning The Ring's Round Of The Year award. It's a bitterly empty feeling for both men --- who gave so much on the night --- & their supporters when the decision is announced...draw!

This one, I wonder about...

Felix Trinidad (2000) vs. Roberto Duran (1983) at Jr. Middle, over twelve rounds. Duran is clearly the more talented fighter, but is years past his best & three weightclasses beyond his best division, against a lesser, but naturally bigger, fresher man, at his peak.

Can Duran thumb, wrestle, & ball-punch his way to what would probably be an upset, or does the size, power, tenacity & youth of Trinidad carry the day?

[observer1]

Morales & Pedroza fight a scintillating battle, with the twelveth stanza winning The Ring's Round Of The Year award. It's a bitterly empty feeling for both men --- who gave so much on the night --- & their supporters when the decision is announced...draw!

This one, I wonder about...

Felix Trinidad (2000) vs. Roberto Duran (1983) at Jr. Middle, over twelve rounds. Duran is clearly the more talented fighter, but is years past his best & three weightclasses beyond his best division, against a lesser, but naturally bigger, fresher man, at his peak.

Can Duran thumb, wrestle, & ball-punch his way to what would probably be an upset, or does the size, power, tenacity & youth of Trinidad carry the day?

imo Trinidad. Duran tries to outbox and use his experience, but Felix is too tough and hungry.
imo, Trinidad wins by TKO in the last few rounds.

Oliver Mccall v Jersey Joe Walcott, 12 Rounds

[HomicideHenry]

Now this is a tricky fight. The Atomic Bull's never been given much credit, but even into his 40's he still makes waves in the division. But....I like Walcott for this one, be a close, but unaminous decision over 12 rounds.


Gene Tunney vs Mike McTigue, for the Lightheavyweight championship of the world*


*Tunney gave up his dreams of being champ at 175 to go after Dempsey, but while he was gone Siki became champ over Carpentier, and then lost it to McTigue. Up until his retirement, Tunney was still in his prime enough, to have fought every 175 pound champ from Siki to Berlenbach! Who do you think wins this over 15 rounds?