was marciano like wagner?

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...good, well-written and well thought out statements in favor of marciano.
....and yet...and yet...i remember watching those fights on live tv...and in looking at the films....and the mystery remains.

A friend of mine, with a lot of knowledge about boxing went with me to see marciano/moore. he had never seen rocky before. after three rounds he couldn't believe what he was seeing. he didn't see how he ever got beyond main events in the st. nick arena.
...and of course, we all know how that one ended.
...it is truly a puzzlement.
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jaclem2 wrote:...good, well-written and well thought out statements in favor of marciano.
....and yet...and yet...i remember watching those fights on live tv...and in looking at the films....and the mystery remains.
You weren't able to see much skill in Aaron Pryor either...

There is no mystery, mate

You just aren't able to be objective regarding certain boxers.
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Well Lady Luck is known to be fickle, and for whatever reason she smiled broadly on those fascinating characters. Rocky trained for greatness so his affair with this beauty passes muster IMHO. And to Aaron's credit, he was the very inspiration for the iconic advertizing slogan "Better living through chemistry". So he probably caught her eye with his daredevil antics. Women can be like that on occasion. As for Wagner....is there anyone left who can hum a few bars of his best?

By the way.... While Hagler was doing the Gilette commercials was Pryor promoting Dupont? I can't quite remember.

Jac...pay no attention to Collie on these matters, he's enthralled and blinded by various dramatic and compelling mythologies, he's also color blind to blue, and thus rendered useless in the area of genuine analysis on some select subjects.
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I Feel Fine wrote:... Marciano was small, but he was not David facing 49 Goliaths ...
thank you very much for the poetry in this sentence.
made my day. (serious, no kidding here.)
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agreed. buzz i'm ashamed of you, i'm sure i am not alone in on this forum in being able to enjoy Wagner and Marciano. tristan and isolde is a compelling and awesome breakthrough in musical composition and its a very moving experience too. Wagner changed music for all time - he is still influencial today. not a fan buzz? c'mon, daddy o get with the jive!
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marciano was small but oh my!
marciano was small but oh my!
some fans dont adore him
but all fell before him
marciano was small but oh my!
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....thanks buzzy, for once again helping me stay in my retirement on one particular subject... :bow:
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jaclem2 wrote:....thanks buzzy, for once again helping me stay in my retirement on one particular subject... :bow:
Good.
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lohengrin, gralserzählung, sung by domingo.
amazing, especially the pianissimo at "alljährlich
naht von himmel eine taube ...". domingo is
clearly not a wagner tenor, yet this "taube" is
among the best things ever performed by a
human voice ...

admittedly this has nothing to do with marciano.
well ..., no, i can't find any reasonable connection.
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