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The DQ of Michael Hunter was just overturned for get this, "there is NO definitive rule about how much gauze can be used to wrap hands". Now I have heard everything. For the record it was not John Brown that filed the original grievance, it was someone else from their LBC. I think it is a sad day, when our rules mean nothing.
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have the fights finish
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178 lbs: Robert Brant, Oakdale, Minn., won on disqualification over Thomas Williams, Ft. Washington, Md., DQ
What happened here? Anyone?
What happened here? Anyone?
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Lots of DQs the last two days. 
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so what's the finals look like
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I talked to errol..he said everyone lost except for him and cochran..
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[quote="CoreyWash"]I talked to errol..he said everyone lost except for him and cochran..[/quote
whoa big upsets surprises
whoa big upsets surprises
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June 11 - JO Finals, Men's Semifinals
Thursday, June 11 - JO Finals
Junior Male
101 lbs: Emilio Sanchez, Pacoima, Wash., stopped Jonathan Benitez, Waianae, Hawaii, RSC-3 (1:53)
106 lbs: Shawn Simpson, Chicago, Ill., dec. Donald Smith, Philadelphia, Pa., 4-3
110 lbs: Hector Luna, San Bernadino, Calif., dec. Jamie Estrada, New Windsor Conn., 19-4
114 lbs: Ray Ximenez, Dallas, Texas, dec., Tramaine Williams, New Haven, Conn., 13-12
119 lbs: Ricky Rodriguez, Evans, Colo., dec. Luis Feliciano, Milwaukee, Wisc., 11-8
125 lbs: Jose Ramirez, Avenal, Calif., dec. Damon Allen, Philadelphia, Pa., 13-10
132 lbs: Manuel Rojas, Dallas, Texas, dec. Ryan Martin, Chattanooga, Tenn., 9-9+ (20-16)
138 lbs: Michael Reed, Waldorf, Md., dec. Semajay Thomas, Chicago, Ill., 8-6
145 lbs: Antoine Douglas, Washington, DC, dec. Brandon Love, Detroit, Mich., 10-3
154 lbs: Eddie Gomez, Bronx, N. Y., dec. Joseph onas, Belville, Mich., 7-5
165 lbs: Daquan Arnett, Orlando, Fla., dec. D'Mitrius Ballard, Temple Hills, Md., 9-8
176 lbs: Jerry Odom, Bowie, Md., dec. Erikvon Padilla, Hempstead, N. Y., 22-9
176+ lbs: Lamar Richards, Philadelphia, Pa., dec. Joshua Temple, St. Louis, Mo., 5-4
Junior Female
101 lbs: Maria Arreola, Freeport, Texas, dec. Tania Lopez, Phoenix, Ariz., 10-3
106 lbs: Angelica Sanchez, Taos, N. M., stopped Dayanie Charles, Carencro, La., RSC-3 (1:14)
114 lbs: Kimberly Nolasco, Los Angeles, Calif., dec. Christal Barajas, Concord, Calif., 5-5+ (10-9)
119 lbs: Natalie Salas, Fresno, Calif., dec. Cassandra Nieves, Cleveland, Ohio, 20-13
125 lbs: Flora Yanes, Hawthorne, Calif., dec. Chazette Szu, Kihei, Hawaii, 9-3
132 lbs: Asia Stevenson, Washington, DC, dec. Alyssa Kane, Kapolei , Hawaii, 5-3
138 lbs: Katherine Keler, Lockhart, Texas, dec. Kimberly Phillips, Sheridan, Ark., 18-0
145 lbs: Alexandria Valdez, South Ogden, Utah, dec. Amournix Stamps, Milwaukee, Wisc., 7-0
Senior Male
Semifinals
106 lbs: Miguel Cartagena, Philadelphia, Pa., dec. Michael Benedosso, Fort Carson, Colo., 17-11
106 lbs: Garen Rabellizsa, Waianae, Hawaii, dec. Fabian Cervantes, Arleta, Calif., 9-9+ (21-23)
112 lbs: Adan Ortiz, Sterling, Ill., dec. Adrian Ghisoiu, Fort Hood, Texas/Erie, Pa., 25-8
112 lbs: Louie Byrd, Denver, Colo., dec. Michael Ruiz, Jr., Fresno, Calif., 29-14
119 lbs: Jesus Magdaleno, Las Vegas, Nev., dec. Rau'shee Warren, Cincinnati, Ohio, 19-19+ (40-39)
119 lbs: Luis Rosa, East haven, Conn., dec. Gabriel Montoya, Cheyenne, Wyo., 21-4
125 lbs: Jerren Cochran dec. Rickey Edwards, Prospect Park, N. J., 15-11
125 lbs: Kevin Rivers, Landover, Md., dec. Ernesto Garza, Saginaw, Mich., 24-17
132 lbs: Adrian Martinez, Milwaukee, Wisc., dec. Eric Fowler, Conor, Texas, 11-9
132 lbs: Duran Caferro, Jr., Helena, Mont., dec. Yuandale Evans, Cleveland Heights, Ohio, 8-4
141 lbs: Jose Benavidez, Phoenix, Ariz., dec. Zeddie Adams, Cleveland, Ohio, 18-8
141 lbs: Frankie Gomez, Los Angeles, Calif., dec. Andre Sherard, Milwaukee, Wisc., 10-5
152 lbs: Eduardo Alicea, Cleveland, Ohio, dec. Javontae Starks, St. Paul, Minn., 16-15
152 lbs: Errol Spence, Desoto, Texas, dec. Richard Hargraves, San Francisco, Calif., 9-2
165 lbs: Jesse Hart, Marquette, Mich., dec. Russell Lamour, Portland, Maine, 14-8
165 lbs: Terrell Gausha, Celveland, Ohio, dec. Kurtiss Colvin, Austin, Texas, 8-7
178 lbs: Robert Brant, Oakdale, Minn., won on disqualification over Thomas Williams, Ft. Washington, Md., DQ
178 lbs: Sijuola Shabazz, Las Cruces, N. M., dec. Steve Geffrard, Boca Raton, Fla., 20-15
201 lbs: Nicholas Kisner, Glen Burmie, Md., dec. Javonta Charles, Memphis, Tenn., 9-7
201 lbs: Jordan Shimmell, Hudsoncille, Mich., dec. Anthony Mack, Plano, Texas, 13-8
Thursday, June 11 - JO Finals
Junior Male
101 lbs: Emilio Sanchez, Pacoima, Wash., stopped Jonathan Benitez, Waianae, Hawaii, RSC-3 (1:53)
106 lbs: Shawn Simpson, Chicago, Ill., dec. Donald Smith, Philadelphia, Pa., 4-3
110 lbs: Hector Luna, San Bernadino, Calif., dec. Jamie Estrada, New Windsor Conn., 19-4
114 lbs: Ray Ximenez, Dallas, Texas, dec., Tramaine Williams, New Haven, Conn., 13-12
119 lbs: Ricky Rodriguez, Evans, Colo., dec. Luis Feliciano, Milwaukee, Wisc., 11-8
125 lbs: Jose Ramirez, Avenal, Calif., dec. Damon Allen, Philadelphia, Pa., 13-10
132 lbs: Manuel Rojas, Dallas, Texas, dec. Ryan Martin, Chattanooga, Tenn., 9-9+ (20-16)
138 lbs: Michael Reed, Waldorf, Md., dec. Semajay Thomas, Chicago, Ill., 8-6
145 lbs: Antoine Douglas, Washington, DC, dec. Brandon Love, Detroit, Mich., 10-3
154 lbs: Eddie Gomez, Bronx, N. Y., dec. Joseph onas, Belville, Mich., 7-5
165 lbs: Daquan Arnett, Orlando, Fla., dec. D'Mitrius Ballard, Temple Hills, Md., 9-8
176 lbs: Jerry Odom, Bowie, Md., dec. Erikvon Padilla, Hempstead, N. Y., 22-9
176+ lbs: Lamar Richards, Philadelphia, Pa., dec. Joshua Temple, St. Louis, Mo., 5-4
Junior Female
101 lbs: Maria Arreola, Freeport, Texas, dec. Tania Lopez, Phoenix, Ariz., 10-3
106 lbs: Angelica Sanchez, Taos, N. M., stopped Dayanie Charles, Carencro, La., RSC-3 (1:14)
114 lbs: Kimberly Nolasco, Los Angeles, Calif., dec. Christal Barajas, Concord, Calif., 5-5+ (10-9)
119 lbs: Natalie Salas, Fresno, Calif., dec. Cassandra Nieves, Cleveland, Ohio, 20-13
125 lbs: Flora Yanes, Hawthorne, Calif., dec. Chazette Szu, Kihei, Hawaii, 9-3
132 lbs: Asia Stevenson, Washington, DC, dec. Alyssa Kane, Kapolei , Hawaii, 5-3
138 lbs: Katherine Keler, Lockhart, Texas, dec. Kimberly Phillips, Sheridan, Ark., 18-0
145 lbs: Alexandria Valdez, South Ogden, Utah, dec. Amournix Stamps, Milwaukee, Wisc., 7-0
Senior Male
Semifinals
106 lbs: Miguel Cartagena, Philadelphia, Pa., dec. Michael Benedosso, Fort Carson, Colo., 17-11
106 lbs: Garen Rabellizsa, Waianae, Hawaii, dec. Fabian Cervantes, Arleta, Calif., 9-9+ (21-23)
112 lbs: Adan Ortiz, Sterling, Ill., dec. Adrian Ghisoiu, Fort Hood, Texas/Erie, Pa., 25-8
112 lbs: Louie Byrd, Denver, Colo., dec. Michael Ruiz, Jr., Fresno, Calif., 29-14
119 lbs: Jesus Magdaleno, Las Vegas, Nev., dec. Rau'shee Warren, Cincinnati, Ohio, 19-19+ (40-39)
119 lbs: Luis Rosa, East haven, Conn., dec. Gabriel Montoya, Cheyenne, Wyo., 21-4
125 lbs: Jerren Cochran dec. Rickey Edwards, Prospect Park, N. J., 15-11
125 lbs: Kevin Rivers, Landover, Md., dec. Ernesto Garza, Saginaw, Mich., 24-17
132 lbs: Adrian Martinez, Milwaukee, Wisc., dec. Eric Fowler, Conor, Texas, 11-9
132 lbs: Duran Caferro, Jr., Helena, Mont., dec. Yuandale Evans, Cleveland Heights, Ohio, 8-4
141 lbs: Jose Benavidez, Phoenix, Ariz., dec. Zeddie Adams, Cleveland, Ohio, 18-8
141 lbs: Frankie Gomez, Los Angeles, Calif., dec. Andre Sherard, Milwaukee, Wisc., 10-5
152 lbs: Eduardo Alicea, Cleveland, Ohio, dec. Javontae Starks, St. Paul, Minn., 16-15
152 lbs: Errol Spence, Desoto, Texas, dec. Richard Hargraves, San Francisco, Calif., 9-2
165 lbs: Jesse Hart, Marquette, Mich., dec. Russell Lamour, Portland, Maine, 14-8
165 lbs: Terrell Gausha, Celveland, Ohio, dec. Kurtiss Colvin, Austin, Texas, 8-7
178 lbs: Robert Brant, Oakdale, Minn., won on disqualification over Thomas Williams, Ft. Washington, Md., DQ
178 lbs: Sijuola Shabazz, Las Cruces, N. M., dec. Steve Geffrard, Boca Raton, Fla., 20-15
201 lbs: Nicholas Kisner, Glen Burmie, Md., dec. Javonta Charles, Memphis, Tenn., 9-7
201 lbs: Jordan Shimmell, Hudsoncille, Mich., dec. Anthony Mack, Plano, Texas, 13-8
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from AP:
Warren upset in U.S. boxing semifinals
DENVER -- Rau'shee Warren stormed out of the ring, leaping over a barrier and flying through a row of seats.
He wasn't really sure where he was going, just allowing his fury to guide him.
The two-time Olympian was agitated and dispirited over a loss in a tiebreaker to Jesus Magdaleno during a semifinal bantamweight bout Thursday night at the USA boxing national championships.
Warren thought he'd landed enough punches to earn the win after the fight ended tied at 19.
But the judges gave the 17-year-old Magdaleno the victory by a one-blow difference.
"If you get the tape and look at it and see how many punches I threw -- I won the fight fair and square," Warren said. "Ain't no way he threw more punches than me."
Trailing 19-14 in the third and final round, Magdaleno landed a series of combinations and tied the match up with seconds remaining.
When the referee held up his hand in the ring, Magdaleno was stunned. He didn't know how to react as the crowd chanted his name.
"It's a little nerve-racking" going against Warren, said Magdaleno, who's from Las Vegas. "I give a lot of props to him, he's a wonderful fighter. Tonight was the night that somebody else had to step in and steal the spotlight."
Magdaleno's win was a complete shocker to Luis Rosa, who won his bantamweight bout in the adjacent ring. Rosa has been training with Warren in mind.
This changes everything.
"I was hoping to fight him," Rosa said. "He's an Olympian and has plenty of experience. But he lost so I've got to take the next person."
A letdown?
"Not really," said Rosa, who's never fought Magdaleno. "I'm so pumped I don't have any words for it."
Warren didn't mince his words after the bout.
"I'm ready to be done with USA boxing," Warren said. "All I did for USA boxing, this is what they do to me?"
The three-time national champion is respected in this setting. He's found peace on the amateur level.
That's one of the reasons he passed on several lukewarm professional prospects soon after the 2008 Beijing Summer Games. He still enjoys hanging out at these big amateur bouts, watching the up-and-comers.
This, though, clouds his perception.
"I can't go through this no more," Warren said. "I can't deal with it no more."
He said events like this could change his mind on attempting to qualify for the 2012 Summer Games in London.
"The way stuff is going right now, it's going to be a lot of these kids going pro," he said.
Including him?
He just shrugged, not wanting his emotion to get in the way of his decision.
"I was up five, ain't no way that he scored five points in a minute!" Warren said, exasperated.
Magdaleno knew he was in dire need of points late in the bout, and just started throwing punches.
"I used my speed, used what I knew I could get him with -- more aggression," he explained. "He wasn't expecting it. He's not a back-up fighter. I put a lot of pressure on him."
This loss conjures up memories of his defeat at the Olympics.
Believing he was up a point in his first-round match in Beijing, Warren danced around and didn't pounce in the waning seconds. He even raised his glove in victory after the bell.
Warren was stunned by the 9-8 loss to South Korea's Lee Ok-sung. He broke into tears after the bout.
But the loss no longer eats at him.
"That's the past. I think about the future," Warren said.
Still, it opened his eyes to what he needed to do next.
Warren has been working on packing more power into his punches. He ramped up his use of weights and plyometrics to increase his strength.
He now feels speedy and strong, displaying that Thursday as he jumped out to a big lead against Magdaleno, landing a flurry of body shots.
But Warren couldn't hold it.
"He's a good fighter, he's strong," Warren said of Magdaleno. "He ain't beat me -- that's how I see it. He caught me with a couple of good shots in the third round, that I knew he hit me with. Come one, I was up five points. I was up, and in the end, 19-19? He did not score that many points on me."
Warren upset in U.S. boxing semifinals
DENVER -- Rau'shee Warren stormed out of the ring, leaping over a barrier and flying through a row of seats.
He wasn't really sure where he was going, just allowing his fury to guide him.
The two-time Olympian was agitated and dispirited over a loss in a tiebreaker to Jesus Magdaleno during a semifinal bantamweight bout Thursday night at the USA boxing national championships.
Warren thought he'd landed enough punches to earn the win after the fight ended tied at 19.
But the judges gave the 17-year-old Magdaleno the victory by a one-blow difference.
"If you get the tape and look at it and see how many punches I threw -- I won the fight fair and square," Warren said. "Ain't no way he threw more punches than me."
Trailing 19-14 in the third and final round, Magdaleno landed a series of combinations and tied the match up with seconds remaining.
When the referee held up his hand in the ring, Magdaleno was stunned. He didn't know how to react as the crowd chanted his name.
"It's a little nerve-racking" going against Warren, said Magdaleno, who's from Las Vegas. "I give a lot of props to him, he's a wonderful fighter. Tonight was the night that somebody else had to step in and steal the spotlight."
Magdaleno's win was a complete shocker to Luis Rosa, who won his bantamweight bout in the adjacent ring. Rosa has been training with Warren in mind.
This changes everything.
"I was hoping to fight him," Rosa said. "He's an Olympian and has plenty of experience. But he lost so I've got to take the next person."
A letdown?
"Not really," said Rosa, who's never fought Magdaleno. "I'm so pumped I don't have any words for it."
Warren didn't mince his words after the bout.
"I'm ready to be done with USA boxing," Warren said. "All I did for USA boxing, this is what they do to me?"
The three-time national champion is respected in this setting. He's found peace on the amateur level.
That's one of the reasons he passed on several lukewarm professional prospects soon after the 2008 Beijing Summer Games. He still enjoys hanging out at these big amateur bouts, watching the up-and-comers.
This, though, clouds his perception.
"I can't go through this no more," Warren said. "I can't deal with it no more."
He said events like this could change his mind on attempting to qualify for the 2012 Summer Games in London.
"The way stuff is going right now, it's going to be a lot of these kids going pro," he said.
Including him?
He just shrugged, not wanting his emotion to get in the way of his decision.
"I was up five, ain't no way that he scored five points in a minute!" Warren said, exasperated.
Magdaleno knew he was in dire need of points late in the bout, and just started throwing punches.
"I used my speed, used what I knew I could get him with -- more aggression," he explained. "He wasn't expecting it. He's not a back-up fighter. I put a lot of pressure on him."
This loss conjures up memories of his defeat at the Olympics.
Believing he was up a point in his first-round match in Beijing, Warren danced around and didn't pounce in the waning seconds. He even raised his glove in victory after the bell.
Warren was stunned by the 9-8 loss to South Korea's Lee Ok-sung. He broke into tears after the bout.
But the loss no longer eats at him.
"That's the past. I think about the future," Warren said.
Still, it opened his eyes to what he needed to do next.
Warren has been working on packing more power into his punches. He ramped up his use of weights and plyometrics to increase his strength.
He now feels speedy and strong, displaying that Thursday as he jumped out to a big lead against Magdaleno, landing a flurry of body shots.
But Warren couldn't hold it.
"He's a good fighter, he's strong," Warren said of Magdaleno. "He ain't beat me -- that's how I see it. He caught me with a couple of good shots in the third round, that I knew he hit me with. Come one, I was up five points. I was up, and in the end, 19-19? He did not score that many points on me."
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I heard from several people TWO DAYS AGO, that I should not be surprised if the veterans that were "retained" by USA boxing to stay in the amateur ranks somehow found themselves on the losing end of some decisions because USA Boxing doesn't have the money to pay them what they promised. Looks like USAB will be saving the money they owe Warren. He'll turn pro tomorrow after this, I'm sure.
Does anyone have any input on what they thought about the fight? I can't imagine Warren losing a 5 pt lead in a minute with his experience. Hmmm. . .
Does anyone have any input on what they thought about the fight? I can't imagine Warren losing a 5 pt lead in a minute with his experience. Hmmm. . .
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Does someone know who won from the following bout ? Javier Torrez vs Trevor Bryn @201+
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DCAmateurBoxing wrote:I heard from several people TWO DAYS AGO, that I should not be surprised if the veterans that were "retained" by USA boxing to stay in the amateur ranks somehow found themselves on the losing end of some decisions because USA Boxing doesn't have the money to pay them what they promised. Looks like USAB will be saving the money they owe Warren. He'll turn pro tomorrow after this, I'm sure.
Does anyone have any input on what they thought about the fight? I can't imagine Warren losing a 5 pt lead in a minute with his experience. Hmmm. . .
Damn, that's crazy. But look at it: Hunter's win overturned on a DQ (and now the DQ overturned?) and Warren losing like this; plus Raynell losing at Regionals. All these guys we made a big deal about retaining lost somehow. WTF is going on with USAB? And why did TW get DQ'd, do we know yet?
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Well, I haven't seen the official results show the DQ is overturned. Warren def. sounds fishy, but Ray definitely lost to Garza. It's really really a shame what is going on with USAB right now and I don't know what the answer is, but it's hard to see kids bust their ass if they are going to have to deal with adult politics in the sport. I just hope they get this squared away soon.Kolya wrote:DCAmateurBoxing wrote:I heard from several people TWO DAYS AGO, that I should not be surprised if the veterans that were "retained" by USA boxing to stay in the amateur ranks somehow found themselves on the losing end of some decisions because USA Boxing doesn't have the money to pay them what they promised. Looks like USAB will be saving the money they owe Warren. He'll turn pro tomorrow after this, I'm sure.
Does anyone have any input on what they thought about the fight? I can't imagine Warren losing a 5 pt lead in a minute with his experience. Hmmm. . .
Damn, that's crazy. But look at it: Hunter's win overturned on a DQ (and now the DQ overturned?) and Warren losing like this; plus Raynell losing at Regionals. All these guys we made a big deal about retaining lost somehow. WTF is going on with USAB? And why did TW get DQ'd, do we know yet?
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DCAmateurBoxing wrote:Well, I haven't seen the official results show the DQ is overturned. Warren def. sounds fishy, but Ray definitely lost to Garza. It's really really a shame what is going on with USAB right now and I don't know what the answer is, but it's hard to see kids bust their ass if they are going to have to deal with adult politics in the sport. I just hope they get this squared away soon.Kolya wrote:DCAmateurBoxing wrote:I heard from several people TWO DAYS AGO, that I should not be surprised if the veterans that were "retained" by USA boxing to stay in the amateur ranks somehow found themselves on the losing end of some decisions because USA Boxing doesn't have the money to pay them what they promised. Looks like USAB will be saving the money they owe Warren. He'll turn pro tomorrow after this, I'm sure.
Does anyone have any input on what they thought about the fight? I can't imagine Warren losing a 5 pt lead in a minute with his experience. Hmmm. . .
Damn, that's crazy. But look at it: Hunter's win overturned on a DQ (and now the DQ overturned?) and Warren losing like this; plus Raynell losing at Regionals. All these guys we made a big deal about retaining lost somehow. WTF is going on with USAB? And why did TW get DQ'd, do we know yet?
No kidding. I was hoping Beijing would be a positive learning experience and apparently it wasn't. Who's going to run the show now, Pat Borkowski? He seems to be the most senior guy there.
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Is anybody online right now at the Nationals by any chance?
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AP story -Hunter fighting Friday 
Hunter Jr.'s disqualification overturned
DENVER — Michael Hunter Jr. fought his way back into the USA boxing national championships in a room, not a ring.
Hunter, who was disqualified from his bout the day before for using too much gauze on his hands, hired a lawyer to plead his case to an arbitration panel Thursday.
After nearly five hours, the arbitrators ruled in his favor, restoring the super heavyweight into the semifinals of the championships.
Due to the delay, the super heavyweight bouts were moved to Friday night. Hunter will face J'Von Wallace, while Javier Torres takes on Trevor Bryan.
The dispute started soon after Hunter beat Lenroy Thompson 8-7 in a quarterfinal match Wednesday, earning the decisive final point on a punch with 2 seconds remaining in the last round.
However, a protest was filed over how much gauze Hunter used to wrap his hands.
The grievance committee rendered a verdict to disqualify Hunter, giving his spot to Thompson.
But on Thursday, the ruling was overturned.
"It was a long process and I think each party had a good point of view," Hunter said. "But I think the right thing happened."
So does USA Boxing CEO Jim Millman.
"Our philosophy as an organization is to get it right and part of the getting it right is to go through a process like today," Millman said. "We are satisfied with the decision and we wish Michael all the best going forward."
Hunter won the national championship title in 2007 and followed that up by earning a spot on the 2008 U.S. Olympic team. He missed out on going to Beijing, though, after falling in international qualifying.
Hunter said the controversy centered on the length of his gauze. Under the rules, no more than 15 yards are allowed per hand. Hunter said his gauze measured 19 yards, although he pointed out that it got stretched from removal.
The reversal surprised him.
"To me, it wasn't looking too good in there," he said of the discussions in the room. "I thought they had more points. ... But it went in my favor."
Hunter said he briefly spoke to Thompson after the decision.
"He told me congratulations," Hunter said. "I've got to crush him (Wallace) tomorrow."
Hunter Jr.'s disqualification overturned
DENVER — Michael Hunter Jr. fought his way back into the USA boxing national championships in a room, not a ring.
Hunter, who was disqualified from his bout the day before for using too much gauze on his hands, hired a lawyer to plead his case to an arbitration panel Thursday.
After nearly five hours, the arbitrators ruled in his favor, restoring the super heavyweight into the semifinals of the championships.
Due to the delay, the super heavyweight bouts were moved to Friday night. Hunter will face J'Von Wallace, while Javier Torres takes on Trevor Bryan.
The dispute started soon after Hunter beat Lenroy Thompson 8-7 in a quarterfinal match Wednesday, earning the decisive final point on a punch with 2 seconds remaining in the last round.
However, a protest was filed over how much gauze Hunter used to wrap his hands.
The grievance committee rendered a verdict to disqualify Hunter, giving his spot to Thompson.
But on Thursday, the ruling was overturned.
"It was a long process and I think each party had a good point of view," Hunter said. "But I think the right thing happened."
So does USA Boxing CEO Jim Millman.
"Our philosophy as an organization is to get it right and part of the getting it right is to go through a process like today," Millman said. "We are satisfied with the decision and we wish Michael all the best going forward."
Hunter won the national championship title in 2007 and followed that up by earning a spot on the 2008 U.S. Olympic team. He missed out on going to Beijing, though, after falling in international qualifying.
Hunter said the controversy centered on the length of his gauze. Under the rules, no more than 15 yards are allowed per hand. Hunter said his gauze measured 19 yards, although he pointed out that it got stretched from removal.
The reversal surprised him.
"To me, it wasn't looking too good in there," he said of the discussions in the room. "I thought they had more points. ... But it went in my favor."
Hunter said he briefly spoke to Thompson after the decision.
"He told me congratulations," Hunter said. "I've got to crush him (Wallace) tomorrow."
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Any word on why Thomas Williams was DQed against Robert brant @178 ?
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Deducted points 3 times = DQDCAmateurBoxing wrote:178 lbs: Robert Brant, Oakdale, Minn., won on disqualification over Thomas Williams, Ft. Washington, Md., DQ
What happened here? Anyone?
I think he was deducted like twice for holding and once for lowblows or something. None of them were really warranted, but the reffing wasnt as absurd as the one before.
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Funny story. After Hunter walked out of the meeting with his lawyer, Hunters lawyer turned to Hunter and said "Who's your daddy?"NYboxing wrote:AP story -Hunter fighting Friday
Hunter Jr.'s disqualification overturned
DENVER — Michael Hunter Jr. fought his way back into the USA boxing national championships in a room, not a ring.
Hunter, who was disqualified from his bout the day before for using too much gauze on his hands, hired a lawyer to plead his case to an arbitration panel Thursday.
After nearly five hours, the arbitrators ruled in his favor, restoring the super heavyweight into the semifinals of the championships.
Due to the delay, the super heavyweight bouts were moved to Friday night. Hunter will face J'Von Wallace, while Javier Torres takes on Trevor Bryan.
The dispute started soon after Hunter beat Lenroy Thompson 8-7 in a quarterfinal match Wednesday, earning the decisive final point on a punch with 2 seconds remaining in the last round.
However, a protest was filed over how much gauze Hunter used to wrap his hands.
The grievance committee rendered a verdict to disqualify Hunter, giving his spot to Thompson.
But on Thursday, the ruling was overturned.
"It was a long process and I think each party had a good point of view," Hunter said. "But I think the right thing happened."
So does USA Boxing CEO Jim Millman.
"Our philosophy as an organization is to get it right and part of the getting it right is to go through a process like today," Millman said. "We are satisfied with the decision and we wish Michael all the best going forward."
Hunter won the national championship title in 2007 and followed that up by earning a spot on the 2008 U.S. Olympic team. He missed out on going to Beijing, though, after falling in international qualifying.
Hunter said the controversy centered on the length of his gauze. Under the rules, no more than 15 yards are allowed per hand. Hunter said his gauze measured 19 yards, although he pointed out that it got stretched from removal.
The reversal surprised him.
"To me, it wasn't looking too good in there," he said of the discussions in the room. "I thought they had more points. ... But it went in my favor."
Hunter said he briefly spoke to Thompson after the decision.
"He told me congratulations," Hunter said. "I've got to crush him (Wallace) tomorrow."
USA boxing can pretend they were trying to be fair all they want, but the truth is, they only reconsidered when lawyers got involved.
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Raushee gassed out in the 3rd round and did get hit. Rau'shee wasn't keeping his hands up. I think he hasn't been training the way he should. The same goes for Raynell.
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There are going to be some excellent bouts on Saturday. Keep in mind that the championship bouts on Friday and Saturday are being shown live via streaming video on usaboxing.org at 7 pm MST/9 pm EST. Log on and watch the bouts live. I'm really excited about the bouts below. Many of them are very evenly matched.
106 lbs: Miguel Cartagena, Philadelphia, Pa. vs. Garen Rabellizsa, Waianae, Hawaii
112 lbs: Adan Ortiz, Sterling, Ill. vs. Louie Byrd, Denver, Colo.
119 lbs: Jesus Magdaleno, Las Vegas, Nev. vs. Luis Rosa, East haven, Conn.
125 lbs: Jerren Cochran vs. Kevin Rivers, Landover, Md.
132 lbs: Adrian Martinez, Milwaukee, Wisc. vs. Duran Caferro, Jr., Helena, Mont.
141 lbs: Jose Benavidez, Phoenix, Ariz. vs. Frankie Gomez, Los Angeles, Calif.
152 lbs: Eduardo Alicea, Cleveland, Ohio vs. Errol Spence, Desoto, Texas
165 lbs: Jesse Hart, Marquette, Mich. vs. Terrell Gausha, Celveland, Ohio
178 lbs: Robert Brant, Oakdale, Minn. vs. Sijuola Shabazz, Las Cruces, N. M.
201 lbs: Nicholas Kisner, Glen Burmie, Md. vs. Jordan Shimmell, Hudsoncille, Mich.
201+: Semifinals on Friday evening.
106 lbs: Miguel Cartagena, Philadelphia, Pa. vs. Garen Rabellizsa, Waianae, Hawaii
112 lbs: Adan Ortiz, Sterling, Ill. vs. Louie Byrd, Denver, Colo.
119 lbs: Jesus Magdaleno, Las Vegas, Nev. vs. Luis Rosa, East haven, Conn.
125 lbs: Jerren Cochran vs. Kevin Rivers, Landover, Md.
132 lbs: Adrian Martinez, Milwaukee, Wisc. vs. Duran Caferro, Jr., Helena, Mont.
141 lbs: Jose Benavidez, Phoenix, Ariz. vs. Frankie Gomez, Los Angeles, Calif.
152 lbs: Eduardo Alicea, Cleveland, Ohio vs. Errol Spence, Desoto, Texas
165 lbs: Jesse Hart, Marquette, Mich. vs. Terrell Gausha, Celveland, Ohio
178 lbs: Robert Brant, Oakdale, Minn. vs. Sijuola Shabazz, Las Cruces, N. M.
201 lbs: Nicholas Kisner, Glen Burmie, Md. vs. Jordan Shimmell, Hudsoncille, Mich.
201+: Semifinals on Friday evening.
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Re: usa nationals
I guess this means Warren won't be at the Worlds in Milan?
Are there any new potential stars and why wasn't Luis Arias fighting?
Are there any new potential stars and why wasn't Luis Arias fighting?
Re: usa nationals
I don't know why ANYBODY would be surprised at the performance of Raynell or Raushee; simply put they have not been busy all year. Has either one boxed more than twice since the Olympics??? They started reading their own press clippings and stopped doing what got them to the top spot in the first place. If USA Boxing had any guts at all, they would put competition standards in to receive the training stipend (i.e. you have to box in so many international duels, so many LBC shows etc). The Michael Hunter ordeal was a JOKE, yet another time USA Boxing bows down to an attorney in the face of adversity. The final ruling of the Arbitrator was that there is no clearly defined rule on the amount of gauze that can be used. Between Raushee's little tirade (check it out, I hear it's going to make YouTube), and Michael Hunter coaches COMPLETE disregard for the rules, neither has displayed the integrity and character worthy of being called an Olympian. This programs goal should be to develop great kids who can box, instead of just average boxers (which we are on the world stage) with poor morals and low integrity. Our program has lost it's way, and I hope we find the right leader for it soon, or there will be no program.
Re: usa nationals
They haven't announced the qualifying process for the Worlds. They could just take the #1 boxer or have some type of box-off/trials. If it is the latter, I'm sure Warren will be offered a chance at redemption. He better start trainin harder just in case.locoxelbox wrote:I guess this means Warren won't be at the Worlds in Milan?
Are there any new potential stars and why wasn't Luis Arias fighting?
Luis Arias is here and did box in the tourney, but he had a tough draw and lost a very close bout to Jesse Hart in the preliminaries. Jesse Hart is very good and he is in the finals. Luis will be back and be competing for and winning national titles.
Re: usa nationals
Actually they have established the qualifying process. The winner of the National Tournament is the US Team member regardless of ranking. Now based on the way they do everything else, that probably means nothing at all. He should go get an attorney, and I'm sure he can have the decision over turned, that seems to be popular this year.