Classic American West Coast Boxing

[dagosd2000]

Jack Johnson

[dagosd2000]

Tip Top Meats. Carlsbad California. Full German Market and Restaurant.



Lunch. Maria had the Cordon Bleu Chicken stuffed with ham and mushrooms , red and white saurkraut,mashed potatos,and salad. I had the 3 sausage plate with potato salad,and red and white saurkraut.

No din din for us tonight

BTW. The gang at the CBHOF will be the recipients of 2 bottles of Augustina Helles Dark Lager each.

[Rick Farris]

BTW. The gang at the CBHOF will be the recipients of 2 bottles of Augustina Helles Dark Lager each.
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DD

[Randyman]

Kudos to my man Sugar Shane Mosley for making Mayweather have a meltdown!!

Randy

[Rick Farris]

The Welterweights I remember . . .


They were guys who usually stepped up from lower weight classes, like Jose Napoles.
Napoles was a lightweight who fought junior welters, and finally won the 147 lb. title at what was considered the "end" of his career.
We were a little light in the number of world titles available when guys like Mantequilla, Homicide Henry and the "real" Sugar Ray ruled the 147 pound division.
There was only ONE title, and only one guy got to claim it.
Napoles, Armstrong and Robinson never looked down in weight when considering challenges.
Well into his 30's, about fifteen years into his career, Napoles had exhausted all of the welter challengers of his era, and it was a great era.
He didn't look down in search of a blown up featherweight to fight, he challenged an all-time great middleweight champ in his prime, Carlos Monzon.

Robinson stepped up to middleweight and won the title five times. Many consider him the best ever, all-time P4P (in contemporary boxing fan lingo?)
Ray also stepped up and challenged Joey Maxim for the light-heavy crown on a hot summer night at Yankee Stadium.
The intense heat and weight disadvantage did Robinson in late in the fight. I never heard of Sugar Ray challenging Chalky Wright.
He didn't look down to see what the little guys were doing.

Armstrong was a little guy, I doubt weighed much more than 132lbs when holding every title between 126-147.
Armstrong had to go up and down, and still defended the welter title a record 18 times in less than two years. He whipped Ceferino Garcia in a title defense.
When Garcia won the middleweight title, Armstrong took him on, hoping to add the middleweight title to his collection.
Armstrong dominated, but the fight was declared a draw, a bad decision?

Today, I communicated with another pretty good welter champ, he held the title three times, his name is Emile Griffith.
Griffith had won and lost the welter title, re-winning it twice. Like other greats, he'd dominated the welterweights then stepped up to win the middleweight title twice.
Emile told me he'll be at the WBHOF banquet again this year. He'd be coming with his son, Luis, and will also bring James "Bonecrusher" Smith.
I was pleased we were speaking for reasons not related to the WBHOF, I almost hesitated telling him I was involved with the organization.

Just a few seconds ago, I hear Jim Lampley scream with excitement that Floyd Mayweather Jr. "IS BETTER THAN EVER!!!!"
I truly believe that Mantequilla Napoles would have looked better than ever had he fought men two divisions below has natural weight class, instead of two above.

To bring things a little closer to present, a few years back another welterweight champ, Sugar Ray Leonard, demanded all the edges and usually got them.
However, Sugar Ray Leonard fought bigger men as his career progressed, not the smaller.

Floyd Mayweather looked sharp tonight. Of course he did. He wasn't in the ring with Shane Mosely. That's who he should have fought.
The problem with Shane Mosely is obvious. He's too much man for a guy who calls himself "Money".


-Rick Farris

[telboy66]

That's a terrific post Rick & I agree with you 100% there are far too many boxers looking back at guys in lower weights to find easy pickings,Ok the little guys want it as well that doesn't mean they should get it, the weight disparity come fight time can & has been very dangerous just the fact that PBF did not allow his fight time weight to be known meant he knew how much of an advantage it was

[kikibalt]

None of the fights on last nght card were imo good fights to watch. James bougth the fights and he was yelling "I want my money back!!"

[Randyman]

None of the fights on last nght card were imo good fights to watch. James bougth the fights and he was yelling "I want my money back!!"

I agree Frank. No shame on Marquez' part though, he was over matched and undersized. For me the best part of the whole night was seeing Mosley and Mayweather faced to face and having Mosley expose Mayweather for the chickensh*t that he he is. I hope someone puts it on youtube. That was worth the $50.00 all by itself.

I thought Juarez never really let go of his punches. What the heck was he waiting for? In the last round he had John hurt but it was too little to late.

Randy

[Randyman]

The Welterweights I remember . . .


They were guys who usually stepped up from lower weight classes, like Jose Napoles.
Napoles was a lightweight who fought junior welters, and finally won the 147 lb. title at what was considered the "end" of his career.
We were a little light in the number of world titles available when guys like Mantequilla, Homicide Henry and the "real" Sugar Ray ruled the 147 pound division.
There was only ONE title, and only one guy got to claim it.
Napoles, Armstrong and Robinson never looked down in weight when considering challenges.
Well into his 30's, about fifteen years into his career, Napoles had exhausted all of the welter challengers of his era, and it was a great era.
He didn't look down in search of a blown up featherweight to fight, he challenged an all-time great middleweight champ in his prime, Carlos Monzon.

Robinson stepped up to middleweight and won the title five times. Many consider him the best ever, all-time P4P (in contemporary boxing fan lingo?)
Ray also stepped up and challenged Joey Maxim for the light-heavy crown on a hot summer night at Yankee Stadium.
The intense heat and weight disadvantage did Robinson in late in the fight. I never heard of Sugar Ray challenging Chalky Wright.
He didn't look down to see what the little guys were doing.

Armstrong was a little guy, I doubt weighed much more than 132lbs when holding every title between 126-147.
Armstrong had to go up and down, and still defended the welter title a record 18 times in less than two years. He whipped Ceferino Garcia in a title defense.
When Garcia won the middleweight title, Armstrong took him on, hoping to add the middleweight title to his collection.
Armstrong dominated, but the fight was declared a draw, a bad decision?

Today, I communicated with another pretty good welter champ, he held the title three times, his name is Emile Griffith.
Griffith had won and lost the welter title, re-winning it twice. Like other greats, he'd dominated the welterweights then stepped up to win the middleweight title twice.
Emile told me he'll be at the WBHOF banquet again this year. He'd be coming with his son, Luis, and will also bring James "Bonecrusher" Smith.
I was pleased we were speaking for reasons not related to the WBHOF, I almost hesitated telling him I was involved with the organization.

Just a few seconds ago, I hear Jim Lampley scream with excitement that Floyd Mayweather Jr. "IS BETTER THAN EVER!!!!"
I truly believe that Mantequilla Napoles would have looked better than ever had he fought men two divisions below has natural weight class, instead of two above.

To bring things a little closer to present, a few years back another welterweight champ, Sugar Ray Leonard, demanded all the edges and usually got them.
However, Sugar Ray Leonard fought bigger men as his career progressed, not the smaller.

Floyd Mayweather looked sharp tonight. Of course he did. He wasn't in the ring with Shane Mosely. That's who he should have fought.
The problem with Shane Mosely is obvious. He's too much man for a guy who calls himself "Money".


-Rick Farris

Beautifully written Rick. You took the words right out of my mouth, only you said it much better than I ever could. It amazes me that some people thought they saw a great fight last night.

Rick, I posted this on my site. I also quoted your last paragraph. Hope you don't mind.

After last night's confrontation between Mosley and Mayweather I think a fight between them is a foregone conclusion. Mosley got inside his head. Big time.

Randy

[Randyman]

Joe Gans(The Old Master)

Somehow Rog, you are getting better and better. Your love of writing, painting and boxing are coming together right here on "Classic American West Coast Boxing".

Leroy Neiman Don't look back, someone might be gaining on you

Randy

[raylawpc]

The only thing proved last night is that Mayweather is the best welterweight in the lightweight division.

[Chuck1052]

I was not surprised when Floyd Mayweather, Jr., a natural lightweight, won easily over Juan Manuel Marquez, a natural featherweight. It follows the old boxing maxim that a good big man will win over a good small man. By the way, I didn't see the bout.

- Chuck Johnston

[dagosd2000]

None of the fights on last nght card were imo good fights to watch. James bougth the fights and he was yelling "I want my money back!!"

I figure "Money" Mayweather adopted that moniker because he has a lot of money. I've never paid to watch him fight. If he was counting on me to make a buck,he'd change his name to "Penny" Mayweather.

[Randyman]

I just posted Duarte vs Davila II on my site. It was recently posted on youtube.

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com

Randy

[kikibalt]

I just posted Duarte vs Davila II on my site. It was recently posted on youtube.

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com

Randy

Great fight Randy,... one that I seen live, as I did their first one...

[dagosd2000]

Stanley Ketchel

[Randyman]

I just posted Duarte vs Davila II on my site. It was recently posted on youtube.

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com

Randy

Great fight Randy,... one that I seen live, as I did their first one...

I missed the first one Frank. I wasn't going to make that mistake the second time. It was a great fight. I'll never forget the look on Davila's face as he walked back to the dressing room. A look of complete disappointment. Tough way to lose. Both of these guys fought a great fight!!

Randy

[kikibalt]

I just posted Duarte vs Davila II on my site. It was recently posted on youtube.

http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com

Randy

Great fight Randy,... one that I seen live, as I did their first one...

I missed the first one Frank. I wasn't going to make that mistake the second time. It was a great fight. I'll never forget the look on Davila's face as he walked back to the dressing room. A look of complete disappointment. Tough way to lose. Both of these guys fought a great fight!!

Randy

And they are two of the nicest guys you'll ever meet in boxing....

[dagosd2000]

Jack Dempsey

[kikibalt]

Frankie Duarte and I
2-3 years ago

[dagosd2000]

RUNNING OUT OF SALAD FOR THE LAST TIME
It's not clear how the Caesar salad was created. I like the version of how ,in 1924 during a New Year's Eve celebration at the Caesar Hotel, the chef ran out of ingredients to make the regular salad. The chef was an Italian who worked in Tijuana because there were no restrictions there during Prohibition. So he threw together what he thought might satisfy the customers. Romaine lettuce,eggs,olive oil,croutons,lemon juice. Leave it to those dagos when they get into a kitchen. It's like leaving them alone with Sofia Loren.

The chef's name was Caesar so he Christened the salad with his name. The rest is history. Caesar salads are a part of a salad menu. And it originated in Tijuana in a hotel on Revolution Street.

Well I was sitting with the wife watching the local Tijuana news when I heard the news. The Caesar Hotel is closing its doors. Lack of business. Tijuana is a city that has changed so fast. Its history forgotten and not retaught. The old Caliente Race Track burned down in 1970. I was there for the last day . It was a Sunday. By Monday morning it was ashes.

The downtown bullring was demolished a few years ago.

The famous Aguas Caliente Casino ,that was a playground for celebrities during the 30's,was turned into a public school. Only a few mosaics remind us of what it looked like.

And of course all the infamous cantinas on Revolution Street. Everyone who was somebody in Mexico frequented those places when the sun went down.I remember the pictures on the walls. Those clubs disappeared years ago.

The Caesar Hotel,the old racetrack,the casino,the bull ring,the cantinas. They're only memories. Memories when Tijuana wasn't dangerous like it is today. Tijuana used to be a lot of fun. You only live once. Might as well have fun with it.

[dagosd2000]

Frankie Duarte and I
2-3 years ago

Frank
I've seen Frankie Duarte a few times. Even have a picture with him somewhere. He's always smiling like that. They should put that smile on the world.

[kikibalt]

Frankie Duarte and I
2-3 years ago

Frank
I've seen Frankie Duarte a few times. Even have a picture with him somewhere. He's always smiling like that. They should put that smile on the world.

Yeah, Roger, I known Duarte since he was about 14 years old, and don't remember ever seeing him without a smile on his face.... DD DD

[dagosd2000]

SPELL BIG SHOT AND DOT THE "I".

If you want recognition. If you want to win. If you want people to think that you are important. If you beg for a compliment. Stay out of the barrio. They pick up on that kind of fellow right away. The harder you try to impress,the less the barrio is impressed.

There's nobody that important. We all wind up the same way anyway. If you think that you're so smart,that's probably all you are .That's why in Mexico the comedy is making fun of themselves. They don't take cheap shots at others.Why make a joke at someone's expense when everyone is somewhat comical?

Maybe that's why ,for the most part,I get along in Mexico. I'm not consumed by myself. I kick back and watch. I take it all in. I can put my ego to rest, and that's how I rest.

[JABARDELLI]

Roger --- I am in total awe after seeing and meeting Jack Johnson, Joe Gans, Stanley Ketchell, and "hobo days" Jack Dempsey. I recognized, instantly, each one, again by browsing down from their forehead to their eyes --- and bingo!!! --- recognition.

You've brought Ketchell back to life! Great work, Roger. I am excited to share these with my brother, again.

And, I confess, I laughed like hell regarding your transformation of Money Mayweather to Penny Mayweather! It must be the inflationary times!