tua vs kali meahan

[foxdog1923]

^^^ Mate boxers who haven't fought in over a year are deemed inactive by boxrec and aren't given a ranking, it's the same as your boy Tua before fighting Glassy on Saturday night...No ranking, now that he's fought he has a ranking see where i'm going here

In no reference to anyone particular, but the level of people with intelligence on this forum for the sport of boxing or just intelligence in general is gone down the shitter.

Every new thread has more and more inaccurate historical facts and although some have been educated they bounce back with even more dribble that reads like a 9 year kid wrote it.

If you don't know your poop fuckoff to one of the other poop forums you no doubt got chased out of.....

Ohh ok I didnt know that.. no need to get angry

And its not 'intelligent' to think a person was chased out of another forum when in all honesty you undoubtedly dont know.

Anyway I was thinking maybe the top aussie heavyweights should do what Cameron and Tua done and fight. I'm talking about Ben Edwards and Meehan, what about that??...

[Hounddawg]

^^^ Mate boxers who haven't fought in over a year are deemed inactive by boxrec and aren't given a ranking, it's the same as your boy Tua before fighting Glassy on Saturday night...No ranking, now that he's fought he has a ranking see where i'm going here

In no reference to anyone particular, but the level of people with intelligence on this forum for the sport of boxing or just intelligence in general is gone down the shitter.

Every new thread has more and more inaccurate historical facts and although some have been educated they bounce back with even more dribble that reads like a 9 year kid wrote it.

If you don't know your poop fuckoff to one of the other poop forums you no doubt got chased out of.....

Ohh ok I didnt know that.. no need to get angry

And its not 'intelligent' to think a person was chased out of another forum when in all honesty you undoubtedly dont know.

Anyway I was thinking maybe the top aussie heavyweights should do what Cameron and Tua done and fight. I'm talking about Ben Edwards and Meehan, what about that??...

"How about you grab a spoon and eat my ass" from Steve Stifler American Pie : ;;-)

[Eric t]

I re-watched this and Tua never caught Lewis flush on the jaw at all. He caught a lot of guard though. But thats credit to Lewis's defence which was too good.

Either you are blind or you're lieing, watch this


Lennox lewis had a iron chin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRShCBKwng

[foxdog1923]

^^^ Mate boxers who haven't fought in over a year are deemed inactive by boxrec and aren't given a ranking, it's the same as your boy Tua before fighting Glassy on Saturday night...No ranking, now that he's fought he has a ranking see where i'm going here

In no reference to anyone particular, but the level of people with intelligence on this forum for the sport of boxing or just intelligence in general is gone down the shitter.

Every new thread has more and more inaccurate historical facts and although some have been educated they bounce back with even more dribble that reads like a 9 year kid wrote it.

If you don't know your poop fuckoff to one of the other poop forums you no doubt got chased out of.....

Ohh ok I didnt know that.. no need to get angry

And its not 'intelligent' to think a person was chased out of another forum when in all honesty you undoubtedly dont know.

Anyway I was thinking maybe the top aussie heavyweights should do what Cameron and Tua done and fight. I'm talking about Ben Edwards and Meehan, what about that??...

"How about you grab a spoon and eat my ass" from Steve Stifler American Pie : ;;-)

[foxdog1923]

I re-watched this and Tua never caught Lewis flush on the jaw at all. He caught a lot of guard though. But thats credit to Lewis's defence which was too good.

Either you are blind or you're lieing, watch this


Lennox lewis had a iron chin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRShCBKwng

Does he??...funny that 'cos he was beating up McCall and McCall landed one punch on his 'iron chin', then Lewis was looking at the reff counting him out. Yes that was unfair I thought 'cos I think Lewis was recovering but Lewis got caught nicely. Tua couldnt do that because Lewis really worked hard on his defence and knew that Tua only had a left hook and a bad haircut.

Ohh geez I forgot about Rahman, it'd be nice to have someone like Rahman on our forum just to confirm Lewis's iron chin. Rahman would probably tell you that Tua has an iron chin. Anyway Meehan or Edwards?..thats a fight.

[Eric t]

I re-watched this and Tua never caught Lewis flush on the jaw at all. He caught a lot of guard though. But thats credit to Lewis's defence which was too good.

Either you are blind or you're lieing, watch this


Lennox lewis had a iron chin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRShCBKwng

Does he??...funny that 'cos he was beating up McCall and McCall landed one punch on his 'iron chin', then Lewis was looking at the reff counting him out. Yes that was unfair I thought 'cos I think Lewis was recovering but Lewis got caught nicely. Tua couldnt do that because Lewis really worked hard on his defence and knew that Tua only had a left hook and a bad haircut.

Ohh geez I forgot about Rahman, it'd be nice to have someone like Rahman on our forum just to confirm Lewis's iron chin. Rahman would probably tell you that Tua has an iron chin. Anyway Meehan or Edwards?..thats a fight.

so did you miss them parts!!!!!

I think ben would have to dedicate himself to boxing and have at least 10 fights before he took on meehan, meehan is better than hopoate in almost every way, hopoate might hit a little harder

[foxdog1923]

Either you are blind or you're lieing, watch this


Lennox lewis had a iron chin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRShCBKwng

Does he??...funny that 'cos he was beating up McCall and McCall landed one punch on his 'iron chin', then Lewis was looking at the reff counting him out. Yes that was unfair I thought 'cos I think Lewis was recovering but Lewis got caught nicely. Tua couldnt do that because Lewis really worked hard on his defence and knew that Tua only had a left hook and a bad haircut.

Ohh geez I forgot about Rahman, it'd be nice to have someone like Rahman on our forum just to confirm Lewis's iron chin. Rahman would probably tell you that Tua has an iron chin. Anyway Meehan or Edwards?..thats a fight.

so did you miss them parts!!!!!

I think ben would have to dedicate himself to boxing and have at least 10 fights before he took on meehan, meehan is better than hopoate in almost every way, hopoate might hit a little harder

Oh ok, I havent seen Edwards fight yet. I just read a lot of good things about him and I know he's a HW. I thought him and Meehan would make a good battle. Geez if Edwards doesnt even dedicate himself and he's quite good, it kind of sound's like theres still untapped potential in him.

Yeah I was really gunning for Hopoate (geez I hate the way he looks at people when walks in to the ring, its like he thinks it's a movie and he's the bad guy) because he's a big banger. But Wilson got up from a knockdown and kept his promise to put Hopoate back in his place.

[Brute]

Brewster wasn't trying very hard againts kali cause they're freinds.

It does not matter how well people get on outside the ring, you have no friends inside the ropes. A world heavyweight champion gets paid tens of millions of dollars for a fight. If you beat him you take that away from him, so he is going to be working hard to keep his title regardless of who he is fighting. Nobody is that stupid.

[Brute]

The word here in NZ is Tua is going for the BIG names straight away. Tua is looking at Rahman in December. The boxing world wants to see it.

Rahman (who KOed Kali Meehan) wants the world to see a reff counting or waving his arms at Tua. Hasim wants to fight Tua and Rahman wants a knock out victory to make amends for the knockout Tua gave him.

So Meehan would be more likely and better off fighting Cameron. Meehan who displays an open jaw for a guard and an ordinary jab that a lot of fighters have walked past and got inside, would feel punches on his face that are harder then Rahman's and Danny Williams and this will result in a KO. Meehans chin is suspect when he got KOed by Williams it was early in the fight, a very easy fight for Williams and a poor unfair display of Meehan that makes it hard to call him world class. After that fight you wouldnt be surprised if people called Williams world class. I dont see Meehan knocking out Tua, after all Lewis couldnt. Meehan's best option is to see how he goes against Cameron then if he feels up to it go after Tua.

Good to hear that Meehans still fighting, some where on this forum it said he's retired which would be a waste. He does have a lot of KO's but Tua according to boxrec has a higher KO ratio, no doubt thats due to Tua's victories which is quite a number.

I do think (and my pickings so far have been dead on) Cameron and Meehan would be a great fight. However make no mistake Tua is Australasia's no.1 heavyweight. I like Meehan but in America and England if you mention his name they would say 'Kali who??', mention Tua and you'll get a boxing conversation.

Considering that the Americans elected George W Bush twice I do not see much intelligence there.

[buster007]

sir Adamheight,

ok u seemingly have such a dismall opinion on kali meehan, and his place among the current heavies why don't u tell us which heavies are 'world class' in your expert opinion.

u say that tua is top 5 now even though he hasn't fought a great fighter since 2003. is he world class?

for the record a fight with tua-meehan would result in tua winning by ko. but if tua is back to his best then tua can and probably would ko any of the current heavies, the russian twins included. and yes some people are saying that tua's style is made for wlad, but unlike most of the klitscko's opponents, tua has no fear and is an animal that will get through their defence sooner or later and the two brothers are not use to opponents like tua that will follow through after connecting with his bombs. but in saying that it certainly wouldn't be a walk in the park either. the klit's are no.1 and no.2 in the world for a very good reason.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Meehan's record is quite deceptive...I mean he's beaten Colin Wilson four times, plus two other guys with moderate records, twice. Each time he's come up against anyone with any type of 'pedigree'...Brewster, Rahman and Williams; he's been beaten. The guy looks to have an inferior record to Cameron, so I don't see this as a marketable fight for Tua.

[Marlin]

Maybe Meehan should KO Cameron next...

[Beltane]

The 39 year old Kali has not been active since he last got into the ring on 30-08-2008 for his second fight of that year. In 2007 he made one appearance and two in 2006.

He carries a very strong record of wins which keeps the locals away but needs a couple of conditioning bouts before he gets into the ring with Tua.

[Marlin]

He should whoop Wilson again and then Solo and then Cameron and then Tua. And he should do it all within a year.

[toppity]

He should whoop Wilson again and then Solo and then Cameron and then Tua. And he should do it all within a year.

for a second there i thought you were going to say on the same day....just to make it interesting.

[adamheight]

I don't have time to sit down and think bout the order coz I'm at work. But top 5 are the 2 klits, Haye valuev and tuA

then after that I've got guys like arreola, povetkin, dimitrenko, Sam peter, chagaev, chambers, Johnson, Holyfield ( yea he's old and shot but he still unoffocially beat valuev)

I don't think meehan beats these guys.

sir Adamheight,

ok u seemingly have such a dismall opinion on kali meehan, and his place among the current heavies why don't u tell us which heavies are 'world class' in your expert opinion.

u say that tua is top 5 now even though he hasn't fought a great fighter since 2003. is he world class?

for the record a fight with tua-meehan would result in tua winning by ko. but if tua is back to his best then tua can and probably would ko any of the current heavies, the russian twins included. and yes some people are saying that tua's style is made for wlad, but unlike most of the klitscko's opponents, tua has no fear and is an animal that will get through their defence sooner or later and the two brothers are not use to opponents like tua that will follow through after connecting with his bombs. but in saying that it certainly wouldn't be a walk in the park either. the klit's are no.1 and no.2 in the world for a very good reason.

[adamheight]

Actually Harrison v meehan would be okay right now. Harrison used him as a sparring partner a few times

[Marlin]

Haye is a joke

[adamheight]

the joke will be on you when haye unifies

[Marlin]

[toppity]

the joke will be on you when haye unifies

........................

fornicate...you had me going for a second then

[adamheight]

But haye I don't think will get the chance to fight vitali. Once haye obliterates valuev and then wladimir I expect vitali to hang them up. The hell is he gonna stick around for the same to happen to him.

(why isn't there a tongue in cheek icon?)

[oliverfennell]

if you mention his name they would say 'Kali who??'.

Oh, they remember him alright, but it would be undiplomatic of me to say why on this board!

[oliverfennell]

please people, dont tell me u agree with iceman that meehan is world class?

I think a world rating of some sort is reasonable, though the WBA have him too high. The KO of Williamson was a very solid fringe world class result. But as for Tua-Meehan, I can't really see beyond an early KO win for Tua.

[oliverfennell]

meehans had a bit of recognition in england thru working with harrison, and then fighting (tryin to anyway) williams.

its a shame tua has that deal with maori tv, coz he needs to get back in the mix and fighting for belts. hes a top 5 heavyweight right now

Sorry, but if you argue Meehan isn't world class, you can't in the same breath say Tua is top 5 off the back of two years' inactivity and a win over Shane Cameron.

Now, that was a very exciting performance by Tua, but if opposition determines rankings (at least in principle), then it doesn't give him a top 5 ranking. DaVarryl Williamson was both a better boxer and higher ranked than Cameron.