Amateur records

taffytoon · Post by **taffytoon** » 13 Dec 2009, 10:10

Is there anywhere that I can check amateur boxing records? I have a bit of a Billy Bull working for me from an agency who is telling everyone he beat Joe Callzaghe as an Amateur

I have had his details sent over and when he was 16 Joe would have been 10

If he did every beat him NO WONDER.

I just wondered if I could look somewhere and print it off for the notice board

ERIC GUY · Post by **ERIC GUY** » 13 Dec 2009, 23:05

Why not ask Enzo??

nicnut · Post by **nicnut** » 13 Dec 2009, 23:31

Ages do not go. Pulling your chain me thinks

Deno1986 · Post by **Deno1986** » 14 Dec 2009, 03:17

sure I bet Jack Johnson and Rocky Balboa in the amateurs, knocked the two of them out cold, Rocky was shouting 'Adrian' at me when he came to his senses..I don't really like to brag about it though

MPG · Post by **MPG** » 14 Dec 2009, 05:59

Deno1986 wrote:sure I bet Jack Johnson and Rocky Balboa in the amateurs, knocked the two of them out cold, Rocky was shouting 'Adrian' at me when he came to his senses..I don't really like to brag about it though

Come to think of it,it would have been a great idea for ABA to type down each Boxer Amateur record.I know this would be alot of work as there are Some many boxers both present and past that boxed as an amateur.I understand that the ABA receives the record book when a boxer change clubs or when they retire,Maybe they could do it if a boxer got in touch with them and ask for his record.I like to see my record and sure others would like to see theirs.

Magichands · Post by **Magichands** » 14 Dec 2009, 20:15

MPG wrote:
Deno1986 wrote:sure I bet Jack Johnson and Rocky Balboa in the amateurs, knocked the two of them out cold, Rocky was shouting 'Adrian' at me when he came to his senses..I don't really like to brag about it though
Come to think of it,it would have been a great idea for ABA to type down each Boxer Amateur record.I know this would be alot of work as there are Some many boxers both present and past that boxed as an amateur.I understand that the ABA receives the record book when a boxer change clubs or when they retire,Maybe they could do it if a boxer got in touch with them and ask for his record.I like to see my record and sure others would like to see theirs.

Nightmare Roy · Post by **Nightmare Roy** » 14 Dec 2009, 20:58

I have googled and wickapediaed the hell out of it but i just can't find his record, but out of 120 bouts he only lost 10 and is one of only two fighers to win ABA titles at 3 weights, he also beat former HW champ Chris Byrd in a middle wieght bout

, Well you learn something every day.

twenty six · Post by **twenty six** » 15 Dec 2009, 07:57

Ask to see his Medical Card mate.
If he fought him there may be a record on there.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 15 Dec 2009, 08:14

There is a web site that has the amateur record of every current champion, and a lot of past ones. It says who they fought in tournaments, but not in general bouts.

just pull him up on the age thing. Ask how old he was when he fought joe, then reply with "but if you were 21 joe was 16 so wouldve been a junior... just ask him for as much detail as possible, he'll trip himself up !!

A mate of mine fought Joe in the welsh am finals, he won the first round by a few points (was it scored on points in them days though) but was stopped in the seodn round to to a bloody nose. I didnt really believe his account of the fight, then he handed me the dvd. Soon shut me up.

Tommy Gunn13 · Post by **Tommy Gunn13** » 15 Dec 2009, 09:36

I used to catch people out all the time at my school,there is only 1 boxing club in my town which i went to,some kids at school said they boxed for a differant club& said they won over 12rounds

Gazmac81 · Post by **Gazmac81** » 15 Dec 2009, 10:11

I know a guy called Michael Smyth beat Calzaghe as an Amateur , think it was the last time he got beat
i know this cause my Bro beat him as a Pro and that was the claim to Fame
also he was in the paper not long after Calzaghe beat Roy jones also

he would be older than Calzaghe but dont think a 16 year old would be fighting a 10,

Name: Michael Smyth
Alias: Barry Bomber
Born: 1970-02-22
Birthplace:
Nationality: United Kingdom
Hometown: Barry, Wales, United Kingdom
Boxing Record: click
Height: 5′ 9″ / 175cm

Smyth defeated Joe Calzaghe at the 1990 Welsh ABA tournament, which was the last time that Calzaghe was beaten as an amateur or professional. [1]

taffytoon wrote:Is there anywhere that I can check amateur boxing records? I have a bit of a Billy Bull working for me from an agency who is telling everyone he beat Joe Callzaghe as an Amateur

I have had his details sent over and when he was 16 Joe would have been 10 If he did every beat him NO WONDER.

I just wondered if I could look somewhere and print it off for the notice board

Tommy Gunn13 · Post by **Tommy Gunn13** » 15 Dec 2009, 10:23

Yes Smyth beat Calzaghe in the welsh final or semi a year before he won his first ABA title

Theres no way as a schoolboy u can box someone that much older,i think if my memory serves me correct when i boxed as a schoolboy u couldnt box anyone more than 12months older or younger...

Hes lying to you mate

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 15 Dec 2009, 10:58

Nightmare Roy wrote:I have googled and wickapediaed the hell out of it but i just can't find his record, but out of 120 bouts he only lost 10 and is one of only two fighers to win ABA titles at 3 weights, he also beat former HW champ Chris Byrd in a middle wieght bout , Well you learn something every day.

don't think that's true about calzaghe beating byrd.

bit of a myth apparently. ;;-)

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 15 Dec 2009, 11:01

Nope its truee mate, he did indeed beat Chris Byrd

Nightmare Roy · Post by **Nightmare Roy** » 15 Dec 2009, 16:08

Says here he did,and wicki is pretty spot on usually, i found lots of other things about it too, got to admit i was suprized as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Calzaghe

ERIC GUY · Post by **ERIC GUY** » 16 Dec 2009, 12:24

pm me the guys name and I will ask joe

bobmee · Post by **bobmee** » 16 Dec 2009, 13:36

I know a guy called Michael Smyth beat Calzaghe as an Amateur , think it was the last time he got beat
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Smyth did beat Calzaghe in the Welsh ABA welterweight final in 1990, but his last amateur defeat was against Adrian Opreda of Romania in the European juniors that year. I think he lost 11 amateur bouts, including his first against a lad called Chris Stock from Harlequins in Newport. He lost to Oktay Urkal as well, and to Darren Blumson in the 1986 Schools finals. I don't think he lost more than half a dozen contests once he got to 14 or 15.

Bob & Weave · Post by **Bob & Weave** » 16 Dec 2009, 13:53

Alot of the schoolboys juniors and seniors are listed here, winners and losers. unfortunately in 1986 it doesn't show the losers, but it does show D. blumson as the winner in 86....

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 16 Dec 2009, 13:55

ERIC GUY wrote:pm me the guys name and I will ask joe

ask him if he fought chris byrd as well will ya. :)

get to the bottom of this one.

get some details on the fight as well.

shame no footage is out there if he did fight byrd. :(

taffytoon · Post by **taffytoon** » 16 Dec 2009, 15:57

ERIC GUY wrote:pm me the guys name and I will ask joe

Why PM

Donald Gallagher from Splott in Cardiff

coneye · Post by **coneye** » 17 Dec 2009, 14:06

Its amazing how many times they trip themselves up and it usually goes like this , he belted the pisser out of me but i fought back hard and got a draw , i then went back and trained hard and beat the crap out of him for 10 rounds to win the north west ===south east county ameteur title chapionship and if you mention no draws or 10 rounders in ameteurs it will be not now but in my day there was. ha ha

Had to laugh once went in this pub with my mate won't mention his name he would'nt like it, anyway he was at the time a very well known fighter nationaly so we goes in having a quiet drink , bloke next to us starts taliking before long he starts to tell us he's a pro boxer , Then he starts to tell us about his last big fight where he hammered ,, guess who , , probably guessed my mate. well we look at each other , and don't say a word , minuite later he introduces himself by name , i give him my name , shake hands , my mate offers his name and shakes his hands ,

The guys jaw drops , he then says so your bla bla bla , fack pleased to meet you and asks for his autograph , not one mention of his comments two minuites before , he acted like he never said it ,

Fack it was funny we still laugh about it now, personally i think he must of been a bit mental

Deno1986 · Post by **Deno1986** » 17 Dec 2009, 14:28

Brillant

teddy007 · Post by **teddy007** » 17 Dec 2009, 15:16

hitman_hatton1 wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:I have googled and wickapediaed the hell out of it but i just can't find his record, but out of 120 bouts he only lost 10 and is one of only two fighers to win ABA titles at 3 weights, he also beat former HW champ Chris Byrd in a middle wieght bout , Well you learn something every day.
don't think that's true about calzaghe beating byrd.

bit of a myth apparently. ;;-)

100% true.

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