BOXREC HALL OF FAME BALLOT!! (May 2010)

[Ambling Alp]

It's time for another Hall of Fame Election. The deadline for submitting a ballot is Noon CDT on May 15, 2010. I will total the ballots after that.

A brief summary of the rules for this election:

-A voter can vote for up to 25 names. (If you vote for more than 25, your entire ballot doesn't count.)
-A fighter's last fight has to be before May 15, 2010 to be eligible.
-You can change your vote. Your last vote before the deadline will be the one counted.
-Candidates who are named on atleast 75% of the ballots are elected. If no fighters receive enough votes, the fighter(s) with the most will be elected.
Go to the Boxrec Hall of Fame Sticky (p.2) for more complete rules.

To vote, just list your selections on this thread. (Don't put them on the Hall of Fame Sticky or any other thread.)
It would be appreciated if you list your selections in alphabetical order.

It's a good idea to check every name that other voters have on their ballot. You may find someone that you overlooked.

So far there had a been a good variety of fighters from different era's, weight classes, styles, etc. Hopefully that will continue.

Fighters already elected by Weight Class:

Heavyweight(12)- Ali, Louis, Marciano,Dempsey,Fitzsimmons,Johnson,Jeffries,Frazier,Liston,
Foreman,Sullivan,Corbett

Lightheavyweight(11)-Charles,Moore,Langford,Foster,Tunney,Conn,Harold Johnson,Loughran,Spinks,Marshall,O'Brien


Middleweight(16)-Greb,Monzon,Hagler,Ketchel,Walker,Burley,Cerdan,LaMotta,Tiger,Flowers
Benvenuti,Nonpariel Dempsey,Ryan, Darcy,Williams,Zale

Jr Middleweight(1)-McCallum

Welterweight(13)-Robinson,Ross,Napoles,Griffith, Ray Leonard,Griffith,Benitez,Basilio,Gavilan,
McLarnin,Barbadoes Joe Walcott,Britton, Kid Lewis

Jr Welterweight(4)-Loi, Locche,Cervantes,Berg

Lightweight(8)-Armstrong,Gans,Benny Leonard,Canzoneri,Ambers,Williams,Carlos Ortiz,McFarland

Jr Lightweight(1)-Kid Chocolate

Featherweight(6)-Pep,Saddler,Sanchez,Arguello,Attell,McGovern

Jr Featherweight(1)-Gomez

Bantamweight(7)-Jofre,Brown,Olivares,Zarate,Harada,Manuel Ortiz,Dixon

Super Flyweight(1)-Galaxy

Flyweight(3)-Wilde,Perez,Villa

If you want to make a case for or against someone, feel free to do it on this thread.

Also, voters are encouraged to name one fighter on their ballot that they consider the most worthy and briefly why. You don't have to do this to vote. However, it may help the cause of that fighter.


To get things started here is my ballot:
Sammy Angott
Bat Battalino
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Miquel Canto
Young Corbett III
Jem Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Beau Jack
Johnny Kilbane
Fidel LaBarba
Sammy Mandell
Kid McCoy
Freddie Miller
Bob Montgomery
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Luis Rodriguez
Maxsie Rosenbloom
Vincente Saldivar
Young Stribling
Freddie Welsh

Vote responsibly, and lets have some fun!

[Seamus]

SAMMY ANGOTT
JIMMY BARRY
LOU BROUILLARD
YOUNG CORBETT III
JACK DILLON
JIM DRISCOLL
JOEY GIARDELLO
MIKE GIBBONS
TOMMY GIBBONS
YOUNG GRIFFO
BEAU JACK
JOHNNY KILBANE
FIDEL LABARBA
JOHN HENRY LEWIS
SAMMY MANDELL
KID McCOY
FREDDIE MILLER
LUIS RODRIGUEZ
MAXIE ROSENBLOOM
FREDDIE STEELE
YOUNG STRIBLING
LEW TENDLER
FREDDIE WELSH
MIDGET WOLGAST
TEDDY YAROSZ

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Maxie Rosenbloom
Jersey Joe Walcott
John Henry Lewis
Tommy Gibbons
Rodrigo Valdez
Gene Fullmer
Luis Rodriguez
Harry Wills
Cocoa Kid
Joe Brown
Jack Blackburn
Flash Elorde
Jem Driscoll
Baby Arizmendi
Jimmy Bivins
Miguel Canto
Fidel LaBarba
Frankie Genero
Newsboy Brown
Eusebio Pedroza
Joe Jeanette
Sam McVea
Mike Gibbons
Mike O'Dowd
Azumah Nelson

[Crease]

There are quite a lot of glaring absences in my opinion.

For Heavyweight:
Mike Tyson
Jersey Joe Walcott
Max Schmeling


Light Heavyweight:
Evander Holyfield

I shall have to think about this a little more...

[SaadOffTheDeck]

They have a 10 year retirement rule. Holyfield at Light Heavy? That's a weird thing to say.

[elmersalsa]

These are my 25 votes for this month:
Sammy Angott
Jimmy Barry
Joe Brown
Ken Buchanan
Miguel Canto
Jim Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Gene Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Pete "Kid" Herman
Beau Jack
Peter Jackson
Johnny Kilbane
Ismael Laguna
Benny Lynch
Freddie Miller
Bob Montgomery
Owen Moran
Azumah Nelson
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Luis Manuel Rodriguez
Vicente Saldivar
Jersey Joe Walcott
Freddie Welsh

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't think nelson is eligible, you forgot his fiasco with fenech.

[Seamus]

We grandfathered Nelson and Fenech in because they had been out of boxing 10 years, recieved votes and then came out of retirement.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Oh, thanks. I need to vote for him too.

[Ezzard]

Sammy Angott
Jack Blackburn
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Young Corbett III
Jem Driscoll
Flash Elorde
Jeff Fenech
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeanette
Fidel LaBarba
Benny Lynch
Jack McAuliffe
Freddie Miller
Bob Montgomery
Owen Moran
Azumah Nelson
Eusebio Pedroza
Luis Rodriguez
Vincente Saldivar
Young Stribling
Rodrigo Valdez
Freddie Welsh

[wsbuf]

Freddie Miller
Fidel Labarba
Jersey Joe Walcott
Maxie Rosenbloom

[Expug]

Sammy Angott
Fred Apostoli
Max Baer
Jimmy Barry
Jimmy Bivins
Joe Brown
Miguel Canto
Gene Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Billy Graham
Young Griffo
Lew Jenkins
Johnny Kilbane
Fidel Labarba
Benny Lynch
Joe Lynch
Freddie Miller
Mike O'Dowd
Billy Petrolle
Maxie Rosenbloom
Max Schmeling
Jack Sharkey
Tom Sharkey
Lew Tendler
Fritzie Zivic

[BoxBuzz]

Freddie Miller
Fidel Labarba
Jersey Joe Walcott
Maxie Rosenbloom
Azumah Nelson
Joe Jeanette
Harry Wills
Battling Battalino
Jeff Fenech
Joey Giardello
Rodrigo Valdez


I'll keep addin 5 at a time for the next few days.....

[CNorkusJr]

My nominations:

Cesar Brion: Fought formidable opponents with large KO pct., Always "in your face" type boxer
and used his ring generalship to his advantage in most bouts won.
Gene Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Virgil Hill
Tippy Larkin: welter champ
Jose Torres
"Jersey Joe" Walcott
Fritzie Zivic: welter champ

[Ambling Alp]

My nominations:

Cesar Brion: Fought formidable opponents with large KO pct., Always "in your face" type boxer
and used his ring generalship to his advantage in most bouts won.
Gene Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Virgil Hill
Tippy Larkin: welter champ
Jose Torres
"Jersey Joe" Walcott
Fritzie Zivic: welter champ

cNorkusJr-The vote for Virgil Hill won't count. He won't be eligible until 2017.

[Ambling Alp]

Sammy Angott
Joe Brown
Michael Carbajal
Orlando Canizales
Miguel Canto
Jose Cuevas
Alfredo Escalera
Gabriel Elorde
Chris Eubank
Gene Fullmer
Frankie Genaro
Santos Laciar
Ricardo Lopez
Freddie Miller
Tod Morgan
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Azumah Nelson
Eusebio Pedroza
Aaron Pryor
Maxie Rosenbloom
Vicente Saldivar
Samuel Serrano
Freddie Steele
Harry Wills
Ike Williams

QUESTION:

Is the "Williams" listed in the Middleweight category, Ike Williams? Or is that Holman Williams?

That is Holman Williams who has already voted in and I listed him as a middleweight.

However, Ike Williams has also already been voted in. I listed him as a lightweight. You can edit it and change your vote from Ike Williams to someone else.

[Ambling Alp]

Not for a while. He was a great fighter. However, fighter who has a fairly short career really has to have some major wins to be considered at this time. Chandler just did not have those.

It's very difficult to make the Boxrec Hall of Fame.
There are still great fighters like Angott,Bivins,Fullmer,LaBarba,Saldivar to name a few that still have not been voted in.

I would say there are at least 50 fighters that still have not been voted in that were better than Chandler.

[CNorkusJr]

10 year rule - I just saw it. Virgil Hill in 2017. Thanks for correction.

[napoles7]

Johnny Hill
Elky Clarke
Ernesto Marcel