Enzo Mac and Cruiserweight Super 6

[Autobarn]

can anyone verify that this is true?

some ppl are saying that news is leaking from sauerland.

lineup is allegedly steve cunningham, yoan pablo hernandez, marco huck (that's 3 sauerland fighters), enzo maccarinelli, danny green and krys wlodarczyk.

can't fvckin wait for this, if it's true. don't mean to be nasty, but the cruisers seem a grittier and nastier bunch than the super middleweights, more inclined to risk their belts than the 168 pounders who have been prone to bickering about location a bit too much. can't see any dirrell spoilers in this lineup. (good job bj flores isn't on the list.)

gives steve cunningham and troy ross something extra to fight for next week in their vacant IBF title fight.

[damianhucker1]

not heard anything about it myself , dont think it has the same appeal as the original super 6 , and i dont see Enzo beating anyone else from that list .

[Autobarn]

of course it has appeal.

cruiserweights are like super bantamweights, with their aggression and willingness to enagge in hard fights for low reward.

i am going to spunk up.

[bfchunk]

Whilst it would explain Cunningham being with Sauerland, that fact there's only one US fighter makes it seem a bit unlikely from a Showtime point of view.

[alexpaterson]

That would be absoulotly brilliant, they should do more Super 6's at different weights to see who is the best at the weights and so people cant pick and choose their fights. Very good idea!

[kevo]

and i dont see Enzo beating anyone else from that list .

I could see him beating Hernandez, and i'd give him a shot against both Green & Huck.

[Autobarn]

Whilst it would explain Cunningham being with Sauerland, that fact there's only one US fighter makes it seem a bit unlikely from a Showtime point of view.

still, mac and green speak english, showtime showed haye v macca (albeit a mac disaster) and they were interested in matching green with tarver.

the current super 6 was a sauerland initiative, interestingly.

one of the top brass at main events, who wanted to sign cunningham, hinted a month ago that cunningham is down to face hernandez and huck in his next 2 fights.

perhaps sauerland are going the extra mile, whereas the once mighty universum seem on the verge of collapse.

[El Raincoat]

I hope it works out. It wouldn't need to much money to work it out. But this is the first i've heard of it, i'll believe it when i see it. Something similar was menhtioned for 140 with Bradley, Alexander, Khan & Maidana and it was just bad journalism from someone looking to make a name for himself. It would of been and still would be great but it's not happening.

If those 6 match up i agree it would be interesting because the winner would get real recognition and make good money. There are some good punchers on that list so i could see a few cracking fights. Maccarinelli-Green would be interesting both can crack Green probably tougher but he regularly fights in the mid 180's whereas everyone else is at 200 so be interesting to see how he deals with that.

[Autobarn]

glad bj flores isn't on the list, because he would probably have been the resident dirrell (aka spoiler).

[brian13]

1 american in it. Who is apparently promoting or negotiating this, IE TV Channel

[rhino222]

That would be absoulotly brilliant, they should do more Super 6's at different weights to see who is the best at the weights and so people cant pick and choose their fights. Very good idea!

that only works if the best 6 are in the competition....

[crusader]

and i dont see Enzo beating anyone else from that list .

I could see him beating Hernandez, and i'd give him a shot against both Green & Huck.

Enzo could beat Hernandez, who is just as fragile, but I have trouble seeing him beat any of the other rumored participants. I'm not so sure he is still a world class fighter. His most recent win was very impressive over a European level opponent but I think any world class fighter who can punch will roll over him in much the same way Lebedev did. Maybe not as early and as convincingly, but the end result would be the same, in my opinion.

Of course I did think Kotlobay would stop him as well, so Enzo has proved me wrong before.

[damianhucker1]

i think if this tournament happens we will see a jermain taylor type retirement from enzo

[brian13]

i think if this tournament happens we will see a jermain taylor type retirement from enzo

Agreed.

[crusader]

Maybe Enzo is not as shot as we previously thought. Denis Lebedev brutally knocked out Alexeev in two rounds today and has been unstoppable for the last few years. Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into Lebedev-Macca, as the Russian is annihilating everybody. I am now giving Enzo a better shot at beating Frenkel than I did when the fight was first made.

I still think the top cruisers would defeat Enzo, but I think he has more left than a lot of people think.

[MightyWarrior]

The Russian who beat Enzo is in a big fight tonight, against the Universum big hope. On ZDF at 11

[REAL_DEAL]

Maybe Enzo is not as shot as we previously thought. Denis Lebedev brutally knocked out Alexeev in two rounds today and has been unstoppable for the last few years. Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into Lebedev-Macca, as the Russian is annihilating everybody. I am now giving Enzo a better shot at beating Frenkel than I did when the fight was first made.

I still think the top cruisers would defeat Enzo, but I think he has more left than a lot of people think.

Great punched that finished the fight, alexeev did the berbick dance while the ref was counting. I think he will stop huck.

[whiskey]

Maybe Enzo is not as shot as we previously thought. Denis Lebedev brutally knocked out Alexeev in two rounds today and has been unstoppable for the last few years. Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into Lebedev-Macca, as the Russian is annihilating everybody. I am now giving Enzo a better shot at beating Frenkel than I did when the fight was first made.

I still think the top cruisers would defeat Enzo, but I think he has more left than a lot of people think.

Great punched that finished the fight, alexeev did the berbick dance while the ref was counting. I think he will stop huck.

Im pretty shocked as Alexeev was a stellar amatuer.

[Autobarn]

props to denis lebedev. first he tears up enzo, inflicting ugly TKO. and then he blows out alexeev, both on away shows.

the man is a russian tank. and if he can beat marco huck for the WBO title, he really will be a great addition to cruiserweight.

i'm not sure if super 6 is a great idea. cunningham should have to fight troy ross again (after stopping him with a thumb to the eye), guillermo jones should defend vs former heavyweight steve herelius (who stopped arslan in an exhausting war) and huck will have to face lebedev. these are the 3 fights that matter.

super 6 or super 4 will just be a big sauerland thing, where he owns all the fighters and thus owns the winner. i would just rather see the 3 above fights.

[bennie]

The twists in the knife of fate that carve you up slowly began carving up Enzo Maccarinelli when he ran into the huge-punching David Haye in a unification cruiserweight showdown in London in 2008. Big Macc, a likeable fellow from Swansea and a puncher himself, was on a long winning run and routinely flattening the likes of Marcelo Dominguez, Mark Hobson, Mohamed Azzaoui and dear old Bobby Gunn as WBO champion, but Haye, the WBC & WBA champion, was an altogether different animal and he needed just two rounds to finish Maccarinelli, whose promoter, F rank Warren, was so impressed that he implored Haye to remain at cruiserweight (or wanted to buy the company, for those of a certain generation).
Haye and his trainer Adam Booth had already stated their intention to move to the heavyweight division and today, of course, Haye is a bona fide world heavyweight champion, and Enzo's loss doesn't look so bad. After blowing away Blackpool's Matthew Ellis in two rounds, Maccarinelli was back in 2009 contesting his old WBO belt against the slick Ola Afolabi, a British-born but American-based craftsman who had all the moves and years of sparring with Wladimir Klitschko behind him, Haye's big heavyweight rival, and who showed it with a smooth, patient, punch-picking display to outlast Maccarinelli in nine rounds in Manchester. Again, there was no real disgrace in conceding to such a talented man as Afolabi, nor to Denis Lebedev a fight later, a big-hitting, unbeaten Russian southpaw who punched Enzo to a standstill in three rounds last July.
As a poster wrote on the boxrec forum: "Maybe Enzo is not as shot as we previously thought. Denis Lebedev brutally knocked out Alekseev in two rounds today and has been unstoppable for the last few years. Perhaps we shouldn't read too much into Lebedev-Macca, as the Russian is annihilating everybody. I am now giving Enzo a better shot at beating Frenkel than I did when the fight was first made."
Alekseev is the highly touted Alexander Alekseev, a previously unbeaten man destroyed by Lebedev just last night in Germany, while Frenkel is Alexander Frenkel, an unbeaten German who challenges Maccarinelli for the European cruiserweight title on The Magnificent Seven show in Birmingham on September 18. Maccarinelli, still only 29, had bounced back from the Lebedev mauling to flatten Russia's Alexander Kotlobay for the European title inside a round in St Petersburg earlier this year, the first time a British fighter has ever won in Russia as a pro. It was an incredible result for the Welshman, who has now won three on the spin since Lebedev, all of them in the first round, and clearly retains his power.
Yes, we know Macc can be outboxed or outpunched but it takes a good 'un to do either and one wonders if Frenkel, ever-so-carefully matched, is good enough. Frenkel brings over a daunting 22-0 (17) record but remains untested up to now, although it certainly looks like he can dig himself and this could turn into another Foreman-Lyle, a great-looking match on a great-looking bill. Frenkel rarely ventures outside Germany so the raucous atmosphere inside Birmingham's LG Arena in September, packed with the Brummie fans of bill-topper Matt Macklin and rapidly emerging Frankie Gavin, with the Chorley faithful of Michael Jennings, will prove intimidating for the 25-year-old challenger. Maccarinelli is the bigger man of the two and much the more experienced, now that the knife has stopped turning, and his big body shots and home advantage swing the balance his way.

[REAL_DEAL]

Here is a official video of the fight from last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD5pmVf5 ... r_embedded#!

[Autobarn]

that must be KO of the year.

lebedev looks so primitive and brutal, overcoming his slowness with good punch picking and heavy shots. he reminds me of some of the junior bantamweight fighters from the late 80s and early 90s, namely khaosai galaxy. galzaxy and also sung kil moon were ponderous looking fighters who could grind down or blast out their opponents. obviously lebedev is a much bigger weight, but there are similarities.

but we will have to see if he is any good in a long, drawn out fight. his inevitable challenge to marco huck, WBO cruiser champ, should tell us more. huck has size and strength, and his smash and grab style was too much for another touted russian, vadim tokarev. huck can push back good fighters and hug the fight out of them.

hopefully lebedev smashes huck on a sauerland bill. i'm starting to really dislike sauerland, trying to get home advatage for every super 6 fight. the double controversy on a recent show, with steve cunningham thumbing troy ross into TKO defeat and sylvester retaining his middleweight crown with a draw vs karmazin.

who does lebedev fight for at the moment? he's delivered on an FW show and a kohl show - do those two have a piece of him?

[MightyWarrior]

Thanks for the video RD, missed it last night. That was a bit like the Berbick knockout wasn't it.
Such a natural left hooker is Lebedev, the way he throws it with such little effort, reminds me of Tony Sibson.

Agree Autobarn, the Huck people may work out a game plan to stay out of the way of the Lebedev left hook, but they'll be very nervous of this matchup, as Huck likes a punch up too. They'll be hoping the Russian heads in another direction.

The Enzo/Lebedev fight looked a weirdly suicidal comeback fight to make at the time, you almost got the impression Enzo was being punished for blowing his previous two big chances.

Good write up Bennie, the cruisers are suddenly looking the place to be.

[Autobarn]

i recon huck's ppl will be having a lot of anxiety and panic attacks. lebedev has been beating up on the WBO rated fighters, like macca and alexeev. he won't let huck out of his sights.

hopefully huck beats godfrey, first. he should do because there's a massive difference between them in fitness, conditioning and motivation.

what a fight adamek v lebedev would have been. though obviously they are with different markets, adamek fighting in america and lebedev in germany and russia. germany seems to be the only place to get TV dates for top cruiserweights.

[Autobarn]

lebedev must be a natural, for him to come back to boxing after taking 4 years off and to knock out a former champ (enzo) and a well regarded prospect with a brilliant amateur background (alexeev).

what does anyone know about lebedev? was he a good amateur? what are his weaknesses? has he been in any really tough fights? who's promoting him?