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[kikibalt]

U.S. location is a possibility for Manny Pacquiao-Antonio Margarito matchup in November

Some states might reinstate Margarito, whose license to fight was revoked in 2009 by the California State Athletic Commission after a plaster-covered inserts were found inside his hand wraps before a bout with Shane Mosley.
Manny Pacquiao, Antonio Margarito


By Lance Pugmire

July 24, 2010

The decision whether to reinstate Antonio Margarito to boxing in the U.S. becomes a much more interesting issue now that Manny Pacquiao has decided to fight him.

"There are a number of states who'd license Margarito," the fighters' promoter, Bob Arum, said Saturday, after determining with Pacquiao's management Friday that Margarito would be the alternate foe Nov. 13 to a failed bid to stage the sport's super-fight, Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Twice-former welterweight world champion Margarito (38-6, 27 knockouts) hasn't fought in the U.S. since January 2009, when California authorities seized plaster-covered inserts from inside both of his hand wraps before Margarito lost to Shane Mosley at Staples Center. The California State Athletic Commission revoked the licenses of Margarito and his trainer, Javier Capetillo, at a February 2009 hearing, and it has yet to reinstate him.

Nevada considered Margarito's request this month — Margarito, 32, has fired Capetillo and has maintained that he did not know the inserts were inside his wraps — but the state tabled its decision and requested that he return to California for an official reinstatement or denial. Margarito's request could be heard in California next month.

However, Arum said some national boxing commissioners expressed interest at an Assn. of Boxing Commissions meeting this month in licensing Margarito with or without California's blessing.

The front-running options behind Nevada to pursue the fight are Texas, which staged a lucrative Pacquiao fight against Joshua Clottey in front of more than 50,000 at Cowboys Stadium in March, and New Jersey, which, like Nevada, is certainly interested in bringing a big crowd and wealthy gamblers to its state.

"We're confident we'll get him licensed here," Arum said.

If that doesn't happen, Arum said he has negotiated with representatives in Abu Dhabi and Monterrey, Mexico, which has a 22,000-seat arena and would allow Pacquiao (51-3-2, 38 KOs) to skirt a steep 30% federal tax in the U.S.

Rival promoter Dan Goossen has said Pacquiao's reputation would be diminished by taking a fight in Mexico against a banned Margarito "like thieves in the night."

"It's not running out of the country, it's a good economic deal," Arum said. "Manny's not a fugitive."

Economics clearly played a factor in Pacquiao's decision to fight Margarito instead of taking on a rematch against world junior-middleweight champion Miguel Cotto, whom Pacquiao handily defeated by 12th-round technical knockout in November. Cotto rallied under new trainer Emanuel Steward to win the junior-middleweight belt, but Arum said that fight remains a viable option should Mayweather continue to decline to accept a Pacquiao bout next year.

"We can't hold our breath; there's something very weird going on with that guy," Arum said of Mayweather.

The selling points of a Margarito bout, to be televised by HBO pay-per-view, will begin with the drama of his reinstatement bid, a lively point of debate. The bout has historical significance as Pacquiao seeks a record seventh world weight division title at junior middleweight, 154 pounds, with the vacant World Boxing Council belt up for grabs. Pacquiao will be a clear favorite against the slower Margarito, who returned to the ring in May and won a unanimous decision over Roberto Garcia in Mexico.

Arum said Pacquiao will begin training Sept. 13 in the Philippines with his Los Angeles-based trainer, Freddie Roach, and the two will return to their Hollywood gym by October.

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[BoxBuzz]

My home state, I'm torn on this law and how to be fair to everyone. Seems like everyone has a different take. But that is one funny cartoon!

[Rick Farris]

Here is a tribute to Danny I wrote on another site. Not as good as Rick's but I hope I did the old boy proud.

TBCB HoF - Danny Cahalin
Written by Rob Morris

Danny CahalinDanny Cahalin (better known as Wildhawke or Wildhake11 to the internet boxing community) was born in Southern England in 1939. He was married to Rita and has a son, Glen.

Danny’s passion for boxing began he was 15 when he had “a little local involvement” in the sport and would last for the next 55 years. During this time Danny developed an in depth knowledge of the sport which, combined with his self effacing humor and gentlemanly nature would literally touch people from all corners of the world through the internet. Danny loved the interaction on the boxing message boards and his son Glen has indicated it brought him much pleasure.

Danny once shared his own philosophy as how to conduct oneself on these boards:
“On any chat board as you well know you will find a range of different people. It’s a bit like at a party you have been invited to or drinking at your regular bar or drinking hole. Difference is on line you can be a tough guy and a keyboard warrior and get away with it most times. But take a bet that many who think they are a tough nut would be as quite as a mouse in a different situation. Where the wrong word or even a stare at a stranger a little too long would lead to making a guy feel uncomfortable very quickly I have always tried to live by the rule speak to others as you yourself would like to be spoken to. I also agree never say anything to someone on line that you would not be prepared to say to him in person.”
Danny truly lived up to this philosophy through words and actions.

On one occasion an American gentleman from one the boxing boards was shot six times. Danny quickly put out a plea for some boxing tapes on video or DVD and asked for names of reliable sellers of good quality tapes so that he could send him some fights to watch while he recuperated.

It is ironic that one of Danny’s quotes about another poster on a message board, “Never have I heard a bad word said about you from anyone. Your Class, Sheer Class“is so applicable to Danny himself.

As well as boxing, Danny liked football (soccer), his favourite team being Chelsea of the English Premier League. He also enjoyed horse-racing computer games and liked simulation games and shoot-em ups. One of Danny’s favorite games was Title Bout Championship boxing, and as respected member of that community was a member of the testing team. This was an endeavor he thoroughly enjoyed and contributions during the development process were invaluable.

Sadly, just before Christmas of 2009 Danny was diagnosed with a brain tumor, yet in typical unselfish fashion he announced it on the internet in January so as not to spoil our Christmas!! This act epitomized the type of person Danny was, putting the joy of others first, even in his greatest hour of need. Tragically Danny died of this tumor on 7th May 2010 and his loss left an irreplaceable void in the lives of all that knew him.

Danny indicated on some of the internet boxing boards (namely Cyber Boxing Zone, Boxrec and Title Bout Championship Boxing) that some of his favourite fighters were Rocky Marciano, Benny Leonard, Harry Greb and Archie Moore amongst others, but he respected all that were brave enough to enter the ring. Yet Danny’s bravery and spirit in face of the illness that would eventually take him from us would have made any one of these warriors proud. His will and character were strong to the end and it is those traits that will remain his legacy.

I read once or twice Danny quote the lyrics from “My Way” by Frank Sinatra. A couple of the verses seem particularly apt to Danny.

And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I travelled each and every highway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught
to say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels
the record shows I took the blows and did it my way!

Yes, it was my way.
RIP Danny, much missed and never to be forgotten.

Brilliant, Rob! I learned more about our friend thru your words.
Now, that was a trinute.

One thing is very obvious, Danny touched us, and he touched so may others.
You know, sometimes I think of the logo for the WBHOF . . .
"Where Champions Live Forever".
On this great thread, and others where Wildhawke posted, Danny Cahalin will live forever.

[pembjr1]

Hey Folks,

Just new to this. Seems that this has been the only site available that can come up with some type of boxing verification of my biological father. I am asking for more help if anyone is interested. I am looking for ANY information in ANY form and would rather have EVERYTHING if I had my way, but I am at the mercy of this community which I am now trying to be a part of and I thank anyone for your help. This is a very important chapter in my life and would like to finish it.

His name is Paul Benoist.

My name is Paul Benoist Jr.
Again, I am pleading for anyone's help. ANY VERIFIABLE information is helpful. Thanks so much!!!

[kikibalt]

Hey Folks,

Just new to this. Seems that this has been the only site available that can come up with some type of boxing verification of my biological father. I am asking for more help if anyone is interested. I am looking for ANY information in ANY form and would rather have EVERYTHING if I had my way, but I am at the mercy of this community which I am now trying to be a part of and I thank anyone for your help. This is a very important chapter in my life and would like to finish it.

His name is Paul Benoist.

My name is Paul Benoist Jr.
Again, I am pleading for anyone's help. ANY VERIFIABLE information is helpful. Thanks so much!!!

What can you tell us about your father, was he a boxer?, if so when?, where?, give us something to start with...

[wsbuf]

I think this is his father.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

[kikibalt]

I think this is his father.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

After my last post I looked at his record and I have to say that I know nothing about his father, if that is his father, he didn't have many fights according to BoxRec.

[pembjr1]

Almost forgot one more thing. I was told by his brother (dead now) that his trainer was "Carmen Durst" if that means anything.

[kikibalt]

Almost forgot one more thing. I was told by his brother (dead now) that his trainer was "Carmen Durst" if that means anything.

I been around the boxing game here in LA for over 60 years and I have never heard of Carmen Durst, I'll make some calls and talk to some older guys then me and see if they have any info on your dad or Durst....

[pembjr1]

My guess is that he (Carmen Durst?) was out of St. Louis since that's where the bulk of my family "Benoist" seems to be from. Again, all of this info. was given to me by his brother at the time he was alive. Much of the info. came from him. Apparently, "some" of the info. seems to be true.

I do thank you for all you are trying to do for me. This really does mean allot to me!

[Rick Farris]

I think this is his father.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

A little Info . . .

Although specific information may be hard to find related to his father, his record indicates that his four pro bouts all took place in Los Angeles.

He fought once at the Olympic, and three times in Hollywood at what was known at the time as the Moulin Rouge. The Moulin Rouge was a Sunset Blvd. night club, that originally was the home of the Zigfield Follies many years earlier. It would become the Aquarius Theatre in the late 60's and early 70's which featured the controversial stage musical of the era, HAIR. Today it is a TV sound stage used by the Nicolodian Channel.

However, back to boxing in the early 60's, when our poster's father fought there.
At the time, former heavyweight champ, Joe Louis promoted boxing at the Moulin Rouge.
Ironically, my former manager, Johnny Flores, was the matchmaker.
Sadly, Johnny passed away in 1994, so getting any info from Johnny is not possible.
Our poster might take pride in knowing that three of his dad's fights were promoted by the great Joe Louis?

Thanks to BOXREC, you can retrieve info about the fights that were featured the night our poster's father fought. In one, future heavyweight contender, Thad Spencer was featured.


-Rick Farris

[kikibalt]

My guess is that he (Carmen Durst?) was out of St. Louis since that's where the bulk of my family "Benoist" seems to be from. Again, all of this info. was given to me by his brother at the time he was alive. Much of the info. came from him. Apparently, "some" of the info. seems to be true.

I do thank you for all you are trying to do for me. This really does mean allot to me!

I made some calls and nobody can tell me anything about your dad or Durst, sorry....

[Panzerfaust]

I watched ''the Gil Cadilli story'' on youtube yesterday. And i was amazed by how ''clean cut'' his style is in the clips of him fighting Is there any more clips of him online? Id really like to see more of this fighter

Cheers PF

[kikibalt]

I watched ''the Gil Cadilli story'' on youtube yesterday. And i was amazed by how ''clean cut'' his style is in the clips of him fighting Is there any more clips of him online? Id really like to see more of this fighter

Cheers PF

Panzer, I don't believe there is anymore Cadilli clips on Youtube, I just got the whole Miguel Barrios fight, I don't know how to upload to Youtube, a friend back east uploaded the Cadilli story for me, if I send him the Barrios fight I'm sure he'll do the same, I'll talk to him about it.

[THEHAMMER321]

anybody out there know much about Dave Orepeza ?, as a kid growing up in Vegas I would often hear people talk of him as I look at boxrec. he fought about half his fights at the old Silver Slipper.

[kikibalt]

anybody out there know much about Dave Orepeza ?, as a kid growing up in Vegas I would often hear people talk of him as I look at boxrec. he fought about half his fights at the old Silver Slipper.

I seen Orepeza fight once or twice, but don't remember much about him....

[THEHAMMER321]

anybody out there know much about Dave Orepeza ?, as a kid growing up in Vegas I would often hear people talk of him as I look at boxrec. he fought about half his fights at the old Silver Slipper.

I seen Orepeza fight once or twice, but don't remember much about him....

from what it looks like in his record, he was ok as long as he fought guys who couldn't fight

[THEHAMMER321]

valid point.

[THEHAMMER321]

great stories Rick and Boxingnut, one time it must have been within a month of his passing Wildhawke reposted a story written by someone called rocky3, about Curtis ''hatchetman'' shepard and I gave credit to Wildhawke for writing the story, he quickly responded that he was not the writer and the credit should go to Rocky3, a humble classy human being, he will be missed.

[pembjr1]

Well, I do appreciate all the help you've done for me. It just goes to show that what I've heard about him seems to coming true. His own brother had said he never really stayed with one thing. Kinda like being interested in one thing and once you've mastered it, the boredom starts all over and then you move on to the next interest. I guess I picked that up from him since that was how I was as a kid. Thanks everyone for all you've done. I sure would probably enjoy sitting around having a "stogie" and a drink, and can listen to all of the interesting life stories you could tell. Take care and thank you again!

Paul E. M. Benoist Jr.

[BoxBuzz]

man I'm old....can it really be about 40 years since I watched this? I'd place this at or around 1970.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-vapUm ... re=related

[kikibalt]

Frankie shot this picture of Dub Huntly and me today at my house

[Randyman]

Frankie shot this picture of Dub Huntly and me today at my house

Nice photo Frank

[Randyman]

man I'm old....can it really be about 40 years since I watched this? I'd place this at or around 1970.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-vapUm ... re=related

Man he was moving that razor so fast I don't think he was really shaving. Back then if you shaved that fast you would end up with little pieces of toilet paper all over your face.

It's hard to believe that it's been so many years since that commercial. Even harder to believe that it's been so many years since jerry Quarry has come and gone.

Randy

[Randyman]

Rick and Rob, great posts on Danny Cahalin/Wildhawke. I never really had contact with him. Both of your posts I got to know him a little. I'm sure he would have appreciated your tributes.
R.I.P Danny