Howard Foster you utter f**kin clown

[jonp]

Howard Foster is a great ref who i have loads of respect for but i cant understand why Doran got a count when he hadnt gone down.

There is no standing count in pro boxing like the amatuers you have to hit the deck to get a count.
This is professional boxing you either go down or the ref stops the fight those 8 seconds gave Doran recovery time when he was badly hurt and also stopped max mid attack when he could have finished the fight there and then.
Max sed the shot hurt but thats why his hands were up and chin was down.
Cello Renda and Jez Wilson both hurt max far worse and he just tucked up and weeathered the storm both times.

[forcefraser]

Wasn`t it Foster who stopped Smith against Degale (as well as Dilks?)

Not too happy about him being the ref in the Degale v Groves fight. Especially on a Warren bill.

We need the ref who did the Webb v Prince Arron fight. He let them get on with it and we saw a classic.

I don`t want to see anybody hurt, but I am sick to death of way too early stoppages. This is boxing, not fencing. If the Dilks stoppage had been in Mexico or even the states, there would have been a riot.

Likewise, if Degale was taking those few punches from Dilks, it would never have been stopped.

[MightyWarrior]

A subconcious impulse to favour the house fighter maybe, and I really hope he doesn't fcuk up tonights enounter. But maybe he wont, because Groves will have a lot of support and majority of the crowd will be behind him, so he'll be house fighter too, in a sense.

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[Captain Hook]

Been lauding Doran since he was an amateur and believe he can make it to at least Euro level if he played to his strengths but that all went out of the window on Friday v Maxwell. He fought for the crowd, nearly got knocked out and MM had him reeling.

Still has so much potential but needs to make big changes.

Agree with a lot of things said on here, Max has a lot of reasons to be angry about the stoppage.

Believe Tom is on holiday in Italy but will try to get hold of his trainer Shane or Tom himself and write an opinion piece on this for Boxrec. Was a shambles.

[TheCobra]

Been lauding Doran since he was an amateur and believe he can make it to at least Euro level if he played to his strengths but that all went out of the window on Friday v Maxwell. He fought for the crowd, nearly got knocked out and MM had him reeling.

Still has so much potential but needs to make big changes.

Agree with a lot of things said on here, Max has a lot of reasons to be angry about the stoppage.

Believe Tom is on holiday in Italy but will try to get hold of his trainer Shane or Tom himself and write an opinion piece on this for Boxrec. Was a shambles.

Most worrying for me was how much Doran seemed to be wobbled every time Maxwell landed. I know Maxwell sparked out the Blackpool lad but he's not a noted banger.

[standing8]

Howard Foster is a great ref who i have loads of respect for but i cant understand why Doran got a count when he hadnt gone down.

There is no standing count in pro boxing like the amatuers you have to hit the deck to get a count.
This is professional boxing you either go down or the ref stops the fight those 8 seconds gave Doran recovery time when he was badly hurt and also stopped max mid attack when he could have finished the fight there and then.
Max sed the shot hurt but thats why his hands were up and chin was down.
Cello Renda and Jez Wilson both hurt max far worse and he just tucked up and weeathered the storm both times.

John, I've just watched the video.
Max got badly caught,his body shape had gone and his hands weren't high enough to stop the fast hands impacting against his head.
I'll offend you by saying that was a good stoppage, but i think it was.
I'd have been sickened if Max would have taken more clean head shots against the ropes

[jonny]

Heard rumours he is either losing his license or throwing in the towel as a ref, either way it looks like the end of him. shame in my opinion as i thought he did a good job on saturday night. Maybe something to do with the personal problems with his sons accident thats had a impact on him.

Christ I hope this isnt true, Howard is a good ref and I'm sure the board wont be taking his license. If he is going then I think things are seriously wrong with his boy maybe

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Correct stoppage for me. Maxwell was cowering on the ropes. Gonski.

[Deno1986]

A lot of the negative comments in this thread about Howard Foster leave a bad taste. He is just another man trying to do his job to the best of his ability, a job that at the end of the day is about protecting fighters safety and essentially their lives. With video replays and hindsight we all like to think we know best but a referee has a split second to make a decision. Regarding the stoppage itself, I really don't see what the fuss is about, Maxwell's head was badly snapped back and with Foster standing feet away I'm sure it looked a lot worse plus his legs appeared to buckle. If the fight had of carried on five more seconds Maxwell would have taken more shots to that effect and it more than likely would have been deemed a late stoppage so it was a good call in my opinion regardless of what had happened in the previous few minutes. Leave the referees do their jobs and if you think you know better, approach the BBBofC about training to be a ref.

[Realistic]

A lot of the negative comments in this thread about Howard Foster leave a bad taste. He is just another man trying to do his job to the best of his ability, a job that at the end of the day is about protecting fighters safety and essentially their lives. With video replays and hindsight we all like to think we know best but a referee has a split second to make a decision. Regarding the stoppage itself, I really don't see what the fuss is about, Maxwell's head was badly snapped back and with Foster standing feet away I'm sure it looked a lot worse plus his legs appeared to buckle. If the fight had of carried on five more seconds Maxwell would have taken more shots to that effect and it more than likely would have been deemed a late stoppage so it was a good call in my opinion regardless of what had happened in the previous few minutes. Leave the referees do their jobs and if you think you know better, approach the BBBofC about training to be a ref.

100% agree, and to bring his son into this thread is appalling

[jonp]

Who brought his son into the thread? I havnt seen that but if anyone has they can just go away

Also you will note even tho im complaining i put earlier Howard Foster is the ref i have most respect for in the country.I beleive as do a lot of people that a couple of mistakes were made but thats life theres no person even now who id prefer to be in charge of a bout more than Howard.

Wether a mistake was made or not that does not undo years and years of top refereeing. To be honest even if it was a mistake was made. i wouldnt even want howard spoken to the guy is too good a ref for that i just want max to get a rematch and go straight back into an eliminator as hes worked hard and had no luck at all.

[THEBUTCH]

I'm not at all keen on Foster and think he's ballsed up quite a few fights, but on this occassion i didn't think it was a bad stoppage.

[bad mamma jamma]

watched this last night. i was expecting the stoppage to be worse than it was. i reckon he could have carried on but his head was bouncing around a bit which made it look worse than it was.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Correct stoppage for me. Maxwell was cowering on the ropes. Gonski.

What a sad statement, no boxing man would make such a statement. Max Maxwell is no coward.

I never suggested he was.

[maninthemiddle]

As I hope you noticed, Howard did another terrific job reffing Degale/Groves. He's going nowhere.
Top ref. Anyone who knows anything about the game rate him at the very top.
Mr Pegg has a habit of moaning about outrageous stoppages, only to find quite a few people disagree. Surely if it was outrageous you would struggle to find a dissenting voice.....

[jonp]

Thats the thing you always find a dissenting voice go on the internet look hard enough you find people saying there was no holocaust and that the world was ending last saturday.They are a very opinionated lot on a public forum goddamn them lol

By your skewed logic that would also mean that if it was a fair stoppage then there wouldnt be many people complaining that it wasnt??
Oh look there is

I think more telling is the amount of people who posted on this topic before i even got home and to be honest my arguement is more to do with the standing count count that gave Tom 10 seconds rest when he was badley hurt and under attack.If you didnt know there is no standing count in britain and Tom didnt touch down.

Again so sorry for giving my opinion on a public forum but yr right seeing as every one on this topic thinks it was fair i will take it back oh wait theres more people thinking it was unfair than fair clown lol

[Black Sam Bellamy]

There are enough people saying it was a fair stoppage for your opening gambit of "Howard Foster you utter f**kin clown" to be regarded as totally unreasonable.

[jonp]

Just as a matter of interest which outrageous stoppages have i made a habit out of moaning about?

[jonp]

considering i dint open this topic and have stated at least once the respect i have for howard do you think this is why man in the middle has brought me into it?

[jonp]

So anytime you want to say sorry about my opening gambit that was nothing to do with me and which obviously you havnt read user names very clearly please feel free to say it here where youv just made sed a total load of bollox regarding me

[jonp]

Howard Foster is a great ref who i have loads of respect for but i cant understand why Doran got a count when he hadnt gone down.

There is no standing count in pro boxing like the amatuers you have to hit the deck to get a count.
This is professional boxing you either go down or the ref stops the fight those 8 seconds gave Doran recovery time when he was badly hurt and also stopped max mid attack when he could have finished the fight there and then.
Max sed the shot hurt but thats why his hands were up and chin was down.
Cello Renda and Jez Wilson both hurt max far worse and he just tucked up and weeathered the storm both times.

Or black sam bellamy was this my veiw that you thought was totally unreasonable?

Or have you misread,misquoted and just generally been mistaken. Anytime now for the sorry will do Sam

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Sorry. A mistake.

[jonp]

lol i make em all the time i was just on the wind up regarding the sorry.

[YOGI BEAR]

A lot of the negative comments in this thread about Howard Foster leave a bad taste. He is just another man trying to do his job to the best of his ability, a job that at the end of the day is about protecting fighters safety and essentially their lives. With video replays and hindsight we all like to think we know best but a referee has a split second to make a decision. Regarding the stoppage itself, I really don't see what the fuss is about, Maxwell's head was badly snapped back and with Foster standing feet away I'm sure it looked a lot worse plus his legs appeared to buckle. If the fight had of carried on five more seconds Maxwell would have taken more shots to that effect and it more than likely would have been deemed a late stoppage so it was a good call in my opinion regardless of what had happened in the previous few minutes. Leave the referees do their jobs and if you think you know better, approach the BBBofC about training to be a ref.

Deano Great Post. Howard One Of The Best In The World. These Internet Referees Should Get In Touch With Boxing Board Of Control. Adios