FRED LEWIS - (heavyweight)

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According to his record, he fought between 1956 & 1963 and also between 1966 & 1973.

He won the AAU Lt/Heavy title in 1963. Did he become an amateur (I think he was in the Air Force) and then pro' again?

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Hi Phil! I think he kept his pro status, as he was fighting as Sgt. Fred Lewis. I can confirm it as soon as I find the right Ring Magazine.
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Hi again! I just came across the article on Fred Lewis I had in mind. (The Ring May, 72). He served two years in Vietnam and returned to California where he made his pro comeback, under a new manager, James Malcolm, a professor at Boston University. While stationed in California he defeated Chuck Leslie, Bob Stinninato, Hank Casey and Fred Roots, katoed Dick Gosha and lost to heavyweights Henry Clark, Roger Rischer and Bill McMurray.
He won a Pan-American crown in Brazil and also was National AAU 178-pound champion. He fought "Cassius Clay" in the Cow Palace for the right to fight in the Olympics. (60). Fred lost by one-point to Clay after having Cassius on the floor in the first round.
Man. Malcolm offered Floyd Patterson $25,000 to fight Lewis, despite the fact that Lewis was a light heavyweight.
Men in the 175 pound class called Lewis "Typhoid Fred", and shy away from meeting him.
I hope this brings some light to your query. By the way, do you keep a magazine collection? Are you interested to swap scanned pic's?
I can see that we're working in the same field. And I enjoy it.
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Hi again Phil! Looking a little closer, I suspect we may discover two different Fred Lewis here. The Lewis who boxed before 1966 was active in Mexico, Texas and Arizona. He fought Larry Melton for the Arizona Light Heavyweight title in sept. 03, 1957. I hardly believe Sgt. Lewis could compete in Olympic trials with a pro experience like that. I also believe the blame is on me, having connected theese two fighters records. I will take a closer look at the ring reports of 1957-58 for more details.
I'll be back :-?
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Post by phil »

HI Palle.

Once I get a bit more organised I would love to scan some things.

What I plan to do is to form a spreadsheet with articles on Heavyweights from the 70s from my boxing magazines to enable me to locate information in a flash.

Give me a week or so and then I'll ask you what you might need.

By the way, many thanks for info regarding Fred Lewis - I thought once you were pro' you couldn't fight as an amateur again. Interesting to see that Fred Lewis (NOT the pro') "fought ALI in the Olympic trials"??

Another bout for my CASSIUS CLAY list!!

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Great Phil! We'll keep in touch. Regarding Fred Lewis, I really believe they are two different boxers. The simular fact is that they were both military stationed, one in Arizona and the other in California. The Fred Lewis of the 70's could hardly win a Pan-American crown in Brazil and a National AAU 178-pound championship, before going to the Olympic Trials, with a pro-record, including Arizona State Championship. So, I decide to separate the records, if you or somebody else don't disagree. Time will tell.
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Great Phil! We'll keep in touch. Regarding Fred Lewis, I really believe they are two different boxers. The simular fact is that they were both military stationed, one in Arizona and the other in California. The Fred Lewis of the 70's could hardly win a Pan-American crown in Brazil and a National AAU 178-pound championship, before going to the Olympic Trials, with a pro-record, including Arizona State Championship. So, I decide to separate the records, if you or somebody else don't disagree. Time will tell.
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According to the '73 RRB they are the same guy. He serves 7 years in the US Air Force, moves to sunny California and keeps knocking them out. He isn't a rookie as he is into ten rounders right off. The Portland, ME locations looked out of place but checking out other boxers of that era shows there was a circuit. I think the only solution is to quit reading them little stories. :wink:
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Post by phil »

I think it's improper to ignore pieces like that. It should be looked into......how is another question!

I may have got my records from the 1969 or 1972 RR books.

However, the '69 Record book says he was in the Army but the '72 Record book says he was in the Air Force.......!

Anybody have any late 50s RINGS? for searching purposes?

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I don't know if he has magazines, but this fellow has a lot of research and other books pertaining to boxing. Also fast delivery, honest and reliable. http://www.prizefightingbooks.com
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