AIBA New Rule Allows Coaches to Talk to Boxer During Bout.

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AIBA New Rule Allows Coaches to Talk to Boxer During Bout.

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AIBA has now adopted a rule that allows the coach to talk at a modern tone to the boxer during the bout. The referee will never caution the coach even if the coach gets irrate bt there is a jury that will approach the coach and caution and or ask the coach to leave on the 3rd time. The referee's job is to watch and control what is going on inside the ring and I think that it is a great move on Aiba's part.
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hbomb2 wrote:AIBA has now adopted a rule that allows the coach to talk at a modern tone to the boxer during the bout. The referee will never caution the coach even if the coach gets irrate bt there is a jury that will approach the coach and caution and or ask the coach to leave on the 3rd time. The referee's job is to watch and control what is going on inside the ring and I think that it is a great move on Aiba's part.
It's a bout time. I got USAB to change that rule years ago because AIBA wasn't really enforcing it and it makes sense. Not too many sports don't allow coaches to coach during a game, match, etc
It's also good that now the ref's don't have to worry about it. In the past, they would give the caution and soon as they turned around, the coach would be screaming to his boxer again.
Ron, I know you are in Baku, how did AIBA let the coaches know about the rule change? Good luck BTW!!
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That is a good rule change.
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hbomb2 wrote: Ron, I know you are in Baku, how did AIBA let the coaches know about the rule change? Good luck BTW!!
We had the first AIBA Coaches Congress. By 2016 the CSS will be gone as well, which may be good but they are also going to take away headgear for the senior men division which I do not think is good at all. The scoring for WSB, AOB and APB will be a 10 point must system as they want all of the boxing to have the same rules. The 2016 Olympic Games may be comprised up to 20% of professional boxers with stipulations.
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hbomb2 wrote:
JMac wrote:
hbomb2 wrote: Ron, I know you are in Baku, how did AIBA let the coaches know about the rule change? Good luck BTW!!
We had the first AIBA Coaches Congress. By 2016 the CSS will be gone as well, which may be good but they are also going to take away headgear for the senior men division which I do not think is good at all. The scoring for WSB, AOB and APB will be a 10 point must system as they want all of the boxing to have the same rules. The 2016 Olympic Games may be comprised up to 20% of professional boxers with stipulations.
i agree that coaches should be allowed to speak with boxers during bouts. A boxer can retain but so much information in the round interval and going out for the next round the body's natural anxiety response will kick in and may forget some important things. The coach, depending on the decible level can remind the boxer and bring that anxiety down.

I am totally against the removal of headgear and I don't understand the rationale of Professionals to now compete in the Olympics in 2016. I personally see a 18 year old making it and now he will have to face a 28 year old 30-0 with 28 knockouts Professional in the first match up in the 2016 games. With no headgear.

And as far as the scoring system goes implementing a 10 point must system wont hold any judges accountable. They can say I felt they were more aggressive or this or that and will anyone sit with them to review their decisions such as the incident that occurred in NJ with the Lara vs Williams bout? The match won't get overturned and you can't do over an Olympic if you screw up.

The ESS is a good system that will hold accountability and can be improved over time if given a chance.
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AIBA has made it clear that they want/need to make amateur boxing more fan friendly. They also have shown that they are in it to make money and try to take over the pro game.

We will have now gone full circle back to where we were in the 1970's. No heaggear and 10 point must system (well it was 20 before but really not any difference). Allowing pros just evens the playing field as many viewed certain countries boxers as "pros". They were paid by their governments, boxing was their "job/profession", and they were typically older and more experienced.
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Allowing pros just evens the playing field as many viewed certain countries boxers as "pros". They were paid by their governments, boxing was their "job/profession", and they were typically older and more experienced.
I believe I read somewhere that the pros can't be more than three years out of the amateurs.....I'll have to do some digging for the actual statement. And I wonder if the IOC is going to allow AIBA to go back to manual scoring. I have my doubts.
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boxmel wrote:
Allowing pros just evens the playing field as many viewed certain countries boxers as "pros". They were paid by their governments, boxing was their "job/profession", and they were typically older and more experienced.
I believe I read somewhere that the pros can't be more than three years out of the amateurs.....I'll have to do some digging for the actual statement. And I wonder if the IOC is going to allow AIBA to go back to manual scoring. I have my doubts.
Wu has the IOC wraped around his finger. Don't be surprised down the road that he runs for IOC President.
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Wu has the IOC wraped around his finger. Don't be surprised down the road that he runs for IOC President.
Jim - at this point, I would almost take Chowdhry. :evil: And I hope your above statement doesn't come true. Probably one of the best things about my advancing age is that I probably won't be around for the upcoming radical changes. :roll:
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boxmel wrote:
Allowing pros just evens the playing field as many viewed certain countries boxers as "pros". They were paid by their governments, boxing was their "job/profession", and they were typically older and more experienced.
I believe I read somewhere that the pros can't be more than three years out of the amateurs.....I'll have to do some digging for the actual statement. And I wonder if the IOC is going to allow AIBA to go back to manual scoring. I have my doubts.
I posted what was said at the meeting and did not read anything from anywhere, I was there. The statement was made that there would be special circumstances for boxers such as Manny Pacquiaou if they should want to go to the Games as it would be very marketable.
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The statement was made that there would be special circumstances for boxers such as Manny Pacquiaou if they should want to go to the Games as it would be very marketable.
First of all, why in the world would Pac-Man want to box in the Olympics! Why would any high profile boxer want to destroy a kids dream of winning the Olympics! It would probably be a reasonable marketing ploy to get the average American pro boxing fan possibly interested, but I doubt it. I do know that it will ruin the sport as it is currently configured. Arghhhhh. :evil:
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boxmel wrote:
The statement was made that there would be special circumstances for boxers such as Manny Pacquiaou if they should want to go to the Games as it would be very marketable.
First of all, why in the world would Pac-Man want to box in the Olympics! Why would any high profile boxer want to destroy a kids dream of winning the Olympics! It would probably be a reasonable marketing ploy to get the average American pro boxing fan possibly interested, but I doubt it. I do know that it will ruin the sport as it is currently configured. Arghhhhh. :evil:
2013....the change on Amateur Style Boxing

2016....the new era of A (removing Amateur)...Olympic Boxing

I wrote an Article about this last December:

http://www.untilthenextround.com/amateu ... ot-an-idea

I just feel the addition will take something away from the purity of the Amateur Olympic Style but it will provide something (attention, revenue insert whatever you wish) for Olympic Boxing...

...and no that last part wasn't a typo folks
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