Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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This matchup at light middle. Could Norris use his speed to get to Hearns early, his only chance perhaps?
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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In my unbiased opinion Norris would get knocked out in the first round. He didn't have a speed advantage, or any advantage that I could find.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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An easy and dominate victory for Hearns. Norris never had the chin to take Thomas's power and he wouldn't be able to catch him early... Not fast enough! Yep...
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Agreed the first time Hearns lands that right hand it's over for Norris.
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Be amazed if this goes over 3 rounds. I guess if Hearns hurts his hand it might do.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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If Norris tries to box and move he loses... If he tries to attack Hearns with that hyperactive crap he loved to do he also loses. Lose lose situation for Norris.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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Hearns was powerful and fast but he was also a very, very skilled boxer. I never saw him outboxed. His biggest flaw was his inability to clinch when hurt. it wouldn't matter in this one.

I see this as a 4 round fight max.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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To beat Hearns, you had to have a rock chin. See prime Leonard, Hagler. Norris didn't have it. Imagine Norris/Brown I, except earlier.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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Roco wrote:This matchup at light middle. Could Norris use his speed to get to Hearns early, his only chance perhaps?
Norris' speed would have been redundant versus Hearns as Tommy was just as quick, if not quicker.

I would say that this would be a decisive win for Tommy.
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The great Thomas Hearns would have been too much for Terry Norris. AT 154lbs, Hearns was a complete monster. If the great Sugar Ray Leonard would have fought him in '84, Hearns would have blown him out just like he did to the great Roberto Duran.

Hearns had more speed, more power and better boxing skills than Norris
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elmersalsa wrote:The great Thomas Hearns would have been too much for Terry Norris. AT 154lbs, Hearns was a complete monster. If the great Sugar Ray Leonard would have fought him in '84, Hearns would have blown him out just like he did to the great Roberto Duran.

Hearns had more speed, more power and better boxing skills than Norris

I hate to admit it but NO ONE beats Hearns by mid 1984. he may have peaked after the Minchillo fight. Now Norris is very quick, and a trigger fast left hook could certainly STUN Hearns. But I see Tommy at this stage instantly firing his right hand flush with Norris getting into trouble. How long it would go no one can say.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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Syntax Error wrote:
Roco wrote:This matchup at light middle. Could Norris use his speed to get to Hearns early, his only chance perhaps?
Norris' speed would have been redundant versus Hearns as Tommy was just as quick, if not quicker.

I would say that this would be a decisive win for Tommy.
Tommy was far faster than norris..hearns was grease lightning at 154 and 147.

norris built his name on shot former speedsters like curry and SRL
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elmersalsa wrote:The great Thomas Hearns would have been too much for Terry Norris. AT 154lbs, Hearns was a complete monster. If the great Sugar Ray Leonard would have fought him in '84, Hearns would have blown him out just like he did to the great Roberto Duran.

Hearns had more speed, more power and better boxing skills than Norris
I'm always shocked when people say that Hearns would have KOd a prime Leonard at 154.

Hearns fought a peak Leonard & an over the hill Leonard & never came close to knocking him out, so why would he have KOd a still prime Leonard at 154lb?

I could envisage him outpointing a comebacking Leonard in '84ish, but I find it hard to believe that anyone KOs a still 'living' Leonard.

People always cite the Roberto Duran KO, but that was a freakish result & is no measure how Hearns would do against an opponent who was bigger & physically strong, plus someone he'd already lost to previously.
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I don't see him knocking Leonard out, a TKO from facial damage is a possibility. I think he would have clearly decisioned him in a rematch at 54.
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Syntax Error wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:The great Thomas Hearns would have been too much for Terry Norris. AT 154lbs, Hearns was a complete monster. If the great Sugar Ray Leonard would have fought him in '84, Hearns would have blown him out just like he did to the great Roberto Duran.

Hearns had more speed, more power and better boxing skills than Norris
I'm always shocked when people say that Hearns would have KOd a prime Leonard at 154.

Hearns fought a peak Leonard & an over the hill Leonard & never came close to knocking him out, so why would he have KOd a still prime Leonard at 154lb?

I could envisage him outpointing a comebacking Leonard in '84ish, but I find it hard to believe that anyone KOs a still 'living' Leonard.

People always cite the Roberto Duran KO, but that was a freakish result & is no measure how Hearns would do against an opponent who was bigger & physically strong, plus someone he'd already lost to previously.

The reason? the great Sugar Ray Leonard was never that good at 154. Tommy at 154lbs was a complete monster. It was the perfect weight class for him. Not for Leonard nor Duran.

I saw how Hearns demolished Duran and James Hutchings in '84. It was the best Tommy Hearns at that time. Put the Leonard that fought Kevin Howard in '84 and it would be a mismatch. Even if Leonard is in the best of shape, at that weight class (154lbs), in no way beats the great Thomas Hearns.
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elmersalsa wrote:
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elmersalsa wrote:The great Thomas Hearns would have been too much for Terry Norris. AT 154lbs, Hearns was a complete monster. If the great Sugar Ray Leonard would have fought him in '84, Hearns would have blown him out just like he did to the great Roberto Duran.

Hearns had more speed, more power and better boxing skills than Norris
I'm always shocked when people say that Hearns would have KOd a prime Leonard at 154.

Hearns fought a peak Leonard & an over the hill Leonard & never came close to knocking him out, so why would he have KOd a still prime Leonard at 154lb?

I could envisage him outpointing a comebacking Leonard in '84ish, but I find it hard to believe that anyone KOs a still 'living' Leonard.

People always cite the Roberto Duran KO, but that was a freakish result & is no measure how Hearns would do against an opponent who was bigger & physically strong, plus someone he'd already lost to previously.

The reason? the great Sugar Ray Leonard was never that good at 154. Tommy at 154lbs was a complete monster. It was the perfect weight class for him. Not for Leonard nor Duran.

I saw how Hearns demolished Duran and James Hutchings in '84. It was the best Tommy Hearns at that time. Put the Leonard that fought Kevin Howard in '84 and it would be a mismatch. Even if Leonard is in the best of shape, at that weight class (154lbs), in no way beats the great Thomas Hearns.

Whoa, the "monster" who lost twice to a fella that Duran beat and who once was KO'd by a true "monster" who Duran fought to a near draw? Tommy did seem to have at least some vulnerabilites even at that weight class.
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Syntax Error wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:The great Thomas Hearns would have been too much for Terry Norris. AT 154lbs, Hearns was a complete monster. If the great Sugar Ray Leonard would have fought him in '84, Hearns would have blown him out just like he did to the great Roberto Duran.

Hearns had more speed, more power and better boxing skills than Norris
I'm always shocked when people say that Hearns would have KOd a prime Leonard at 154.

Hearns fought a peak Leonard & an over the hill Leonard & never came close to knocking him out, so why would he have KOd a still prime Leonard at 154lb?

I could envisage him outpointing a comebacking Leonard in '84ish, but I find it hard to believe that anyone KOs a still 'living' Leonard.

People always cite the Roberto Duran KO, but that was a freakish result & is no measure how Hearns would do against an opponent who was bigger & physically strong, plus someone he'd already lost to previously.
Whoah didnt you watch the SRL-Hearns rematch? If anyone was totally shot it was hearns not leonard, even leonard said it before the fight, and that "shot " hearns had leonard on the floor twice....make no mistake for all his chivalry under pressure and ability to come back strong SRL was hurt badly in that fight but ray being ray he made it look like he wasnt.
The duran result was not "freakish" tommy was just on fire in 1984 at his absolute peak.Still i agree hearns might stop leonard on facial cuts but i dont think he knocks srl out at 154. srl looked good against kalule but obviously like shit against howard in 84. Boxbuzz the fast fading hearns of 88 and the shot yet adapted hearns of 92 and his losses to barkley have no relavence on the monster hearns was in 1984.
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Re: Terry Norris v Thomas Hearns @ 154

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I'd have to go with Tommy, and early.
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