'The' Heavyweight Championship Belt

[Giancarlo]

Founded in 1962, son, as everyone knows,

But keep up the "noise" to try and obfuscate the facts.

You gonna post our fantasy correspondence or just accept you are full of crap?

[Goodnight, Irene]

Founded in 1962, son, as everyone knows,

But keep up the "noise" to try and obfuscate the facts.

You gonna post out fantasy correspondence or just accept you are full of crap?

Ba-dum, tish!!!

"And whats the deal with airline peanuts?"

D

[Giancarlo]

Founded in 1962, son, as everyone knows,

But keep up the "noise" to try and obfuscate the facts.

You gonna post out fantasy correspondence or just accept you are full of crap?

Ba-dum, tish!!!

"And whats the deal with airline peanuts?"

D

Irene, can you post our fantasy correspondence soon?



(Any sign of Cap and his gang sorting out Joe Louis WBA title fights yet?)

[Goodnight, Irene]

Best...thread...ever D

[CNorkusJr]

This is the only belt that Rocky Marciano won during his career. The Ring Belt.

It is part of a very private collection of Rocky Marciano items owned by good friend and former business partner Steve Acunto, whom both founded the American Association for the Improvement of Boxing (AAIB). Its purpose- to suggest and seek rule changes and enforcement of such rules to better health care of boxers in the ring.
Steve Acunto is still alive and was recently inducted into the veryt first class of the New York State Boxing HOF.



THe sign on top of the case says " The RING BELT- Only authentic World Champion Belt in existence and given only to undefeated Champions"

[Goodnight, Irene]

This is the only belt that Rocky Marciano won during his career. The Ring Belt.

It is part of a very private collection of Rocky Marciano items owned by good friend and former business partner Steve Acunto, whom both founded the American Association for the Improvement of Boxing (AAIB). Its purpose- to suggest and seek rule changes and enforcement of such rules to better health care of boxers in the ring.
Steve Acunto is still alive and was recently inducted into the veryt first class of the New York State Boxing HOF.



THe sign on top of the case says " The RING BELT- Only authentic World Champion Belt in existence and given only to undefeated Champions"

Thanks for the read

[CNorkusJr]

yw

[orbtastic]

Interesting what Hugman says only this week:

http://boxrec.com/hugman/index.php/Introduction

"I have taken the start of boxing as we now know it to be when championship weights became standardized worldwide and/or boxers receiving general recognition from established bodies with the sport, such as the New York State Athletic Commission (1920) and the National Boxing Association (1921) in America. In Europe the International Boxing Union (IBU) had been formed in 1911 to bond European nations together, while after the Great War those involved in boxing in Britain had a working agreement that would eventually see all parties concerned signing up to form the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) in 1929. Although there was an on-off relationship between the IBU and the BBBoC during the early days, in 1946 all countries in Europe, including Britain, became members of the newly formed European Boxing Union (EBU).


Despite there being several attempts to create a workable World Boxing Commission it never properly came to fruition due to the stance taken by the NYSAC, who deemed that they were only empowered to deal with boxing in New York. Eventually, after many attempts to set up one body the NBA reorganised themselves in August 1962 and were renamed as the World Boxing Association, while in February 1963 the World Boxing Council was formed, with the NYSAC still isolating themselves. In 1983 a breakaway group from the WBA set themselves up as the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and in 1989 the World Boxing Organisation (WBO) was formed by another group of disaffected former WBA members. "

[CNorkusJr]

Interesting what Hugman says only this week:

http://boxrec.com/hugman/index.php/Introduction

"I have taken the start of boxing as we now know it to be when championship weights became standardized worldwide and/or boxers receiving general recognition from established bodies with the sport, such as the New York State Athletic Commission (1920) and the National Boxing Association (1921) in America. In Europe the International Boxing Union (IBU) had been formed in 1911 to bond European nations together, while after the Great War those involved in boxing in Britain had a working agreement that would eventually see all parties concerned signing up to form the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) in 1929. Although there was an on-off relationship between the IBU and the BBBoC during the early days, in 1946 all countries in Europe, including Britain, became members of the newly formed European Boxing Union (EBU).


Despite there being several attempts to create a workable World Boxing Commission it never properly came to fruition due to the stance taken by the NYSAC, who deemed that they were only empowered to deal with boxing in New York. Eventually, after many attempts to set up one body the NBA reorganised themselves in August 1962 and were renamed as the World Boxing Association, while in February 1963 the World Boxing Council was formed, with the NYSAC still isolating themselves. In 1983 a breakaway group from the WBA set themselves up as the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and in 1989 the World Boxing Organisation (WBO) was formed by another group of disaffected former WBA members. "

I think there is a mix of several "ruling boxing" bodies to contend with here.
In the early days-several states formed their "own" ruling boxing commissions or orgs. Different state laws governed whether boxing even was allowed in their state to begin with. Each state had their "own" systems and rules. Even today, scoring systems differ from state to state and organization to organization. NYSAC has always contended they were a ruling body ever since they came into existence. Even today, if a boxer gets suspended from ring activities, several states have an option to honor or dishoner the suspension. Thats why a boxer can have his license withdrawn from one state and still get the okay to box in another.
In 1950,when Rocky Marciano was suspended by the Maine State Boxing Comm, Rhode Island followed suit and honored the suspension, but New York did not.(Rocky was suspended 30 days for fighting amateur fights against his brother while as a pro boxer).

Now enter the various boxing organizations that swarm the sport today. They sanction various fights under their command and offer up titles to those who conform to their by-laws and regulations. My opinion is that its a power play move to make money only. Virtually anyone I believe can start a sanctioning body and call it lets say "The Universe Boxing Assn" or "UBA". Designate various boxers for which the boxers paid an "entrance fee "to join, and have a few belts made, and work in conjunction with various state promoters and its governing rules and Presto- we got a new champion belt.
I'm sure it may not be that easy, the legalities and such and lawsuits protection will have to be in place-but it will make money and add another belt to a shoulder filled with belts of a boxer.
I think, the various states bodies (NYSAC) oversee the functioning of the bouts and state guidelines that must be followed and make sure boxers adhere to regulations set forth in their medical requirements. I really dont think they care who wears the belts that are brought into their matches, not like it used to be years ago.As long all fees and the tax-man gets his cut from the earnings-a fight will be sanctioned, unless the state feels its a huge mismatch with injury implications (eg: A pro heavyweight with 70 pro fights to his credit pitted against a fighter with 2 pro fights) The state I think would never allow that to happen. But I could be wrong- Eg: Pete Radamacher vs Floyd Patterson for championship bout.(Though Pete had an extensive and successful amateur career).

Overall, I personally dont feel that the various State Ruling bodies can be considered in the same catagory as the various Boxing Organizations that are in existence today.( If that is the point of the article linked above- I might be misreading its intention)
The various organizations travel state to state, country to country and sanction their match-ups in those places that will have them. Then the states or out-of-US countries apply their rules and the various orgs. can take it or leave it. If it works out, much money is on the line for the championship belts title fights.
My opinion of course.