Worst decision of the 80s?
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AngryGoon38
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Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Louie Espinosa vs Alfredo Rangel
Rangel won practically every round and lost the decision. Espinosa was an Arguello type fighter and Rangel was a
Vilomar Fernandez type fighter. He outboxed and outslicked Espinosa,who just kept swinging away but missing everything round by round by round. Gonna check right now to see if its on youtube somewhere.
Rangel won practically every round and lost the decision. Espinosa was an Arguello type fighter and Rangel was a
Vilomar Fernandez type fighter. He outboxed and outslicked Espinosa,who just kept swinging away but missing everything round by round by round. Gonna check right now to see if its on youtube somewhere.
Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Please, please, please don't compare Espinoza to Arguello.AngryGoon38 wrote:Louie Espinosa vs Alfredo Rangel
Rangel won practically every round and lost the decision. Espinosa was an Arguello type fighter and Rangel was a
Vilomar Fernandez type fighter. He outboxed and outslicked Espinosa,who just kept swinging away but missing everything round by round by round. Gonna check right now to see if its on youtube somewhere.
Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
The decision to go to 12 rounds
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AngryGoon38
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Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Rover wrote:Please, please, please don't compare Espinoza to Arguello.AngryGoon38 wrote:Louie Espinosa vs Alfredo Rangel
Rangel won practically every round and lost the decision. Espinosa was an Arguello type fighter and Rangel was a
Vilomar Fernandez type fighter. He outboxed and outslicked Espinosa,who just kept swinging away but missing everything round by round by round. Gonna check right now to see if its on youtube somewhere.
I meant from a "casual comparable" standpoint of course. More specifically, A Poor man's version of Arguello.
And Rangel was a poor man's version of Fernandez of course.
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bluerosekiller
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Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Yes sir, this was indeed, an absolutely atrocious decision. I had Burnett winning it going away.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Leon Spinks/Jesse Burnett
He outboxed, outpunched & outbanged "Neon" Leon every which way but loose that afternoon 30 years ago.
Poor Jesse could hardly ever catch a break. He was a top five talent at '75 & then later on at cruiser for years, but was almost always the opponent. Had he had an Arum or King behind him during those years, he'd have certainly won a world title. Instead, he was flown in on short notice, usually against the promoter's "boy". Even then, he's very often do more than enough to legitimately win, but wind up on the short end of things due to plenty of shady judge's calls.
Yep, even though my teen self only got to see him fight live on television five, six, maybe seven times over the years, he was definitely one of my most favorite fighters during those early years of my boxing fandom from 1976 until 1982 from the time I was 14 'til 21. Back then, there was no internet of course, but it was still very possible to follow fighters like Burnett via the pages of THE RING, BOXING ILLUSTRATED & other magazines.
Those were some good days, huh?
Not that I'd want to return to them, but lack of technology or not, we made due as die hard boxing fanatics with whatever resources we had available to us, right?
- Jim
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Jesse was a tremendously talented fighter, later in my life I was able to acquire several of his fights that I didn't see growing up. With all the titles and eliminators going on these days it's difficult to decipher between the degrees of injustice dealt to fighters.
Burnett dominated Victor Galindez in an eliminator for a Cruiserweight title shot in the division's infancy. Years passed without his shot transpiring, that decision was so bad that Burnett actually got a shot at the title after losing the decision. He was too past his best to give Gordon a real run, but he damn sure beat the shit out of Spinks. 12-0 Burnett would have been a viable scorecard.
Burnett dominated Victor Galindez in an eliminator for a Cruiserweight title shot in the division's infancy. Years passed without his shot transpiring, that decision was so bad that Burnett actually got a shot at the title after losing the decision. He was too past his best to give Gordon a real run, but he damn sure beat the shit out of Spinks. 12-0 Burnett would have been a viable scorecard.
Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Great post.bluerosekiller wrote:Yes sir, this was indeed, an absolutely atrocious decision. I had Burnett winning it going away.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Leon Spinks/Jesse Burnett
He outboxed, outpunched & outbanged "Neon" Leon every which way but loose that afternoon 30 years ago.
Poor Jesse could hardly ever catch a break. He was a top five talent at '75 & then later on at cruiser for years, but was almost always the opponent. Had he had an Arum or King behind him during those years, he'd have certainly won a world title. Instead, he was flown in on short notice, usually against the promoter's "boy". Even then, he's very often do more than enough to legitimately win, but wind up on the short end of things due to plenty of shady judge's calls.
Yep, even though my teen self only got to see him fight live on television five, six, maybe seven times over the years, he was definitely one of my most favorite fighters during those early years of my boxing fandom from 1976 until 1982 from the time I was 14 'til 21. Back then, there was no internet of course, but it was still very possible to follow fighters like Burnett via the pages of THE RING, BOXING ILLUSTRATED & other magazines.
Those were some good days, huh?
Not that I'd want to return to them, but lack of technology or not, we made due as die hard boxing fanatics with whatever resources we had available to us, right?
- Jim
How about Ring magazines "Rings around the world" section in the back with the results of every card? Great stuff. I would check it out for hours.
Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Great post.bluerosekiller wrote:Yes sir, this was indeed, an absolutely atrocious decision. I had Burnett winning it going away.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Leon Spinks/Jesse Burnett
He outboxed, outpunched & outbanged "Neon" Leon every which way but loose that afternoon 30 years ago.
Poor Jesse could hardly ever catch a break. He was a top five talent at '75 & then later on at cruiser for years, but was almost always the opponent. Had he had an Arum or King behind him during those years, he'd have certainly won a world title. Instead, he was flown in on short notice, usually against the promoter's "boy". Even then, he's very often do more than enough to legitimately win, but wind up on the short end of things due to plenty of shady judge's calls.
Yep, even though my teen self only got to see him fight live on television five, six, maybe seven times over the years, he was definitely one of my most favorite fighters during those early years of my boxing fandom from 1976 until 1982 from the time I was 14 'til 21. Back then, there was no internet of course, but it was still very possible to follow fighters like Burnett via the pages of THE RING, BOXING ILLUSTRATED & other magazines.
Those were some good days, huh?
Not that I'd want to return to them, but lack of technology or not, we made due as die hard boxing fanatics with whatever resources we had available to us, right?
- Jim
How about Ring magazines "Rings around the world" section in the back with the results of every card? Great stuff. I would check it out for hours.
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semisports
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Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
Pat Jefferson- Cubanito Perez (semi-main event of Hagler-Hearns)
Eddie Davis - Michael Spinks
Eddie Davis - Michael Spinks
Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
I thought Spinks won. The margins on two of the cards were ridiculous, though.semisports wrote:Pat Jefferson- Cubanito Perez (semi-main event of Hagler-Hearns)
Eddie Davis - Michael Spinks
Re: Worst decision of the 80s?
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Good call, in his hometown no less.Nile4000 wrote:Dokes-Ocasio I also gets a mention.
Both Page/Chaplin decisions were awful.
Last couple of times I saw Page-Chaplin II, I scored it a draw, but Page did look REAL bad in that fight, really the first real red flag on what Greg was going to end up like.